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amanda
02-14-2003, 11:59 PM
Ladies and gentlemen,

For the past few days, you have been witness to a bit of performance art, an experiment in the "theater of the mind", not unlike Orson Well's "War of the Worlds".

The fight between Masterofnone and I have the past few days has ALL been a performance. It's sole intent was to be in jest and play.

Just as "War of the Worlds", some innocent bystanders may have trampled.

mastero', will you please come out of the shadows?

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 12:05 AM
If we shadows have offended, Think but this, and all is mended, That you have but slumber'd here While these visions did appear. And this weak and idle theme, No more yielding but a dream, Gentles, do not reprehend: if you pardon, we will mend: And, as I am an honest Puck, If we have unearned luck Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue, We will make amends ere long; Else the Puck a liar call; So, good night unto you all. Give me your hands, if we be friends, And Robin shall restore amends.

-William Shakespeare

heh heh... it was all a joke

We were just playing around with the concept of stepping on toes and excess drama. We didn't anticipate that it would have any real effect on anybody's mood... If that ended up being the case we really apologize... but we were amazed at how, after a few volleys, we felt like we were pissing in the pool. This is an amazing place and... well, even a few bad vibes seem oddly disruptive.

Anyway, shows over. Nothing to see here..

lapietra
02-15-2003, 12:12 AM
What, may I ask, was the point?

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 12:19 AM
In my best trying not to be defensive... but not succeeding... but also recognizing that there's some accountability that's due... we we'ren't trying to teach any lessons. We were just role playing. We figured we both had reps for being easy going and too gosh darned nice (camel toe aside). So we played a game to see if anybody would believe that we could behave so badly. I guess we found out. We really wouldn't have done it if we thought people would get upset. Hope you're not too upset. Just being goofy.... heh heh...


heh heh

amanda
02-15-2003, 12:26 AM
I HOPED that my persona before this outbreak of being a hormonal psycho harpy, would have been enough to see that it was a farce.

I'm in no way that vindictive. It was purely a way to act out something I never want to become.

I may be a little stinky, tho'.

Red Princess
02-15-2003, 12:29 AM
Even normally easy going people have hot-button issues, not so hard to believe the reactions really.
I guess i assume people are being honest unless it is a blatant self serving lie, I do not like being lied to.
Hope you guys are amused because I am not

rmr
02-15-2003, 12:31 AM
Well I just have to say, that I don't really know either of you really well, but I felt bad that two people were obviously fighting. Then when I read the posts of everyone, including NYC, trying to make nice and I felt really sad.

When MON said he was leaving the board I couldn't believe it. The thing I love about this board is how everyone seems to get along. I've been on others where there is always some kind of drama. I liked that we didn't have that here. I will say you're role playing was successful, you were both great actors.

I was one of the people that private messaged about your fight. I couldn't understand why you were both so upset.

You also have taught a lesson, whether that was your plan or not, I for one, now will be leary of the next time someone feels like "role playing", I will now feel much more guarded with my feelings towards others. I don't like to feel geniune concern for someone to find out it was just a game.

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 12:35 AM
See, that's exactly what we didn't want. I hope that the board can just take a few days and bash us as freely and as often as necessary... but I really hope that the board doesn't stop being as open and as honest and as essentially trusting as it has become. It's what makes us all come back day after day and hour after hour....



besides it was all AMANDA's IDEA... swear to god!

rmr
02-15-2003, 12:37 AM
If that's exactly what you didn't want, why would you do? What's the motavation to risk that? Obviously it was a consideration and you both decided that your joke was more important than other feelings.

amanda
02-15-2003, 12:46 AM
yep, mon is right

I'm the bad guy.

please feel free to point the punches wherever you like.

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 12:50 AM
Well, obviously we thought we were spoofing on our own personas. Again, we thought it would be funny. We kind of thought that nobody would take it too seriously... and when we saw that someone did... we started this thread. It was a joke. A play. Role playing. It didn't work out that way. Certainly, if there was a moment when either of us said... this could hurt feelings... we, we wouldn't have done it. So essentially the only thing to say is ...

Sorry. What smells is us. Our performance. Maybe our judgement.

Sorry

Madmack
02-15-2003, 12:57 AM
Although I am a self confessed neophyte to this board (or any board to be honest..!)..

I feel certain that the intention was not malicious. If anything it shows me the level of compassion that people here on this board have.. If we didn't care then no one would have made a peep about this.

Sometimes we do things and the result is completely different than we expect. I think that this was one of those cases.

Rather than base my opinion on this one incident.. I'm going base it on what I have learned over the time I've been here and give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
I hope we all have learned something from this...

amanda
02-15-2003, 01:01 AM
At the beginning of this performance, we expected that people would be able to see through our absurdness. Our expectations were, obviously, way off the mark.

Our timing became even worse.

for that, I am truly sorry.

on another note: I am simply amazed at how you all came together in uncertain times.

Madmack
02-15-2003, 01:03 AM
You're right Peg.. That's why I simply said what 'my' reaction was..

amanda
02-15-2003, 01:03 AM
sorry, nycwriters...but when I'm trying to find the right words to articulate myself, it takes me a few minutes.

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 02:09 AM
inarticulate bitch

zenbabe
02-15-2003, 02:16 AM
Did you hear something?

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 02:17 AM
cough...

zenbabe
02-15-2003, 02:21 AM
Did you hear something?

dickieC
02-15-2003, 06:55 AM
<-- flying out to spank some bottoms.

you naughty people.

:sobs into his beer at lost innocence:

amanda
02-15-2003, 12:29 PM
'ey, ya big "MoNster"

Farce you.

;)

noxxville
02-15-2003, 03:10 PM
It just seems senseless. People do open up here in the way that they don't in other places. Personally, nothing any of you do could stop me from doing so because I simply just accept that I'm going to say the wrong thing at the wrong time to offend all of the wrong people. But there are some people that have a hard time trusting others and opening up, largely due to situations like this. When people begin to open up and feel comfortable in a group, they expect a certain amount of honesty. For those who have difficulties with trust, something that seems very small to you (such as this) is actually quite a blow to them.

In a commuity where people are welcome, if not encouraged, to be open and honest, we should all take great measure to respect that honesty and repay it in full. We do not have to agree, we don't even need to like everyone; but respect for trust, this board cannot live without.

So, as far as an apology goes, I'm not personally concerned with getting one. Just realize that there will be people who's trust you wll not regain in the near future and ultimately, it will be all of our loss becuase they will be more hesitant to open up here and share their thoughts/feelings/opinions.

lapietra
02-15-2003, 03:55 PM
I wanted to think a little about how to respond to all of this...

I still haven't figured out exactly what I want to say, but my initial feeling was, and still is, that I'm disappointed.

I held the two of you in very high regard (still do - you're human - not perfect) and this activity seemed beneath you.

So much of what is posted here is a celebration of our creativity and the excellence in us - yeah, there's a lot of silliness, too, but it's all good-natured, giggly, tickly stuff for the most part. Even the raunchy stuff is all in fun... not to be taken seriously and certainly easily avoidable for those not in the mood to partake.

I can't figure out for the life of me what inspired the decision to mislead the community here in this way - to compare it with "War of the Worlds" seems arrogant to me. It was more like seeing a married couple have an ugly, name-calling argument in the company of their friends. I have unfortunately been party to too many of those via my father's second marriage (this had some painfully familiar elements) and was quite upset to have to experience anything like it again.

I wish you two would examine why you felt the need to do this, and not pretend to us or yourselves that it was anything like art or entertainment. It was upsetting, and I didn't get anything useful from it, except maybe the experience of trying to search for words to express why I'm upset. Perhaps I should be grateful for that.

As I said before, I still hold you in high regard - you're such amazing people - but that makes this error even more bewildering.

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 05:12 PM
Wrastlin' ain't real..
zb

noxxville
02-15-2003, 05:13 PM
True, but unless you're 7 you know that going in.

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 05:14 PM
right.

zenbabe
02-15-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by noxxville
True, but unless you're 7 you know that going in.

Yeah, try telling that to dem beer swillin folks in the midwest....you would get your ass kicked!

rmr
02-15-2003, 05:19 PM
I'm beer swilln', I'm from the midwest and I'm going to kick your ass.

noxxville
02-15-2003, 05:20 PM
Oh they know it too. They just don't think anyone else around them knows it and that makes em feel smart.

masterofNone
02-15-2003, 05:31 PM
8:43 AM EST Thursday, February 13th
MoN
c'mon. Y'know? I'm startin' to wonder about the general level of oversensitivity around here lately....

Amanda
Thank you Rune, that was very sweet of you.

At least, he's decent enough to compliment a person when they show treasured photos of the past (especially sent from the states, mind you).

And not be a racist pig about it, like someone we know.

MoN
wow.

Amanda
oversensitivity?

you think I'm being oversensitive about memories?
how would you like it if I called YOU names after showing your pictures?

mon, I really think you should once in awhile think about what you say.

in the meanwhile,

stuff it.

MoN
I repeat... wow.

Amanda it was an effin' joke.

Amanda
I'm sorry, madmack.... thank you

but mon is just being an insensitive prick.

MoN
This place is getting to be like those mutant cats in Key West... too many god damn toes...

you never know when your going to step on one...

I guess I'd apologize if I knew what the hell I said that got your panties in a twist. Not a big fan of public displays of exaspiration...but what the heck.

Amanda
my panties are in a "twist", because your "joke" was way off the mark. I find it extremely disturbing that your "sense of humor" wanders in the realm of pure tastelessness and absolutely no tact, whatsoever.

and you could do well by not making anymore derogatory, sexual remarks either.

MoN
again, I just have to say...


c'mon. please. It was a cute reference to a goofy song.

get over it.


move along folks.


nothing to see here.

MoN
okay... mia effing culpa... mia maxima culpa.

Amanda
first of all, it's "mea culpa"

second of all, I know you think your humor is all in good fun, but a sense of humor is like a sense of good driving skills- every one thinks they are a good driver.

But accidents still happen.

MoN
Hope the hug fest will excuse me when I ask the little PIA to...



Hug this.


thank you and goodnight.

Amanda
little PIA?!?!

Do you mind explaining yourself? Or are you still being too much of an insentive prick to stand up for your actions without resorting to name calling?

don't even try to walk away from this...

MoN
Listen, you're a nice girl. Maybe you should settle down a little and take a midol. I was making a little thing we have here in the states we call a JOKE! You might have forgotten about JOKES, being as you are, in a foreign land and all. Let's just move to our neutral corners and breath, hmmm?

Amanda
careful there, allegro...

he'll bite it off with those fangs of his.

MoN
I guess this board isn't big enough for the both of us as they say in the westerns.

It's been fun... but personally I don't need this crap.

AMF zemonkeys.
1:54 PM EST Friday, Febriuary 14th

noxxville
02-15-2003, 05:45 PM
Just let go.

Everyone move on.

If you have a problem with Mon or Amanda then just let them know.

Just let go.

Mon and Amanda, your apology is made less sincere by your numerous attempts to defend your actions.

Just let go.

Arguing about whether it was right or wrong will go on and on...utlimately bringing down the overall mood of the board. I don't want to argue about this anymore.

This is my last post on this thread. I'm just not going to be caught up in this anymore. I don't see the point either way.

zefrank
02-15-2003, 11:22 PM
honeymoon = over.

now therapy.

then love makin'


mmmmmmmmmmmmm......

dickieC
02-15-2003, 11:45 PM
yes

lots of lovin'

ooh yeah

bealeblues
02-15-2003, 11:50 PM
can we all just move on from this please?

they have each said their mea culpas, whether it was needed or not... we all know we love them, so let's move on

the world is dramatic enough without adding more to it.....

but that's just me.....

bealeblues
02-16-2003, 01:01 AM
like i said, that's just me... nothing more

most everyone has said their peace, so i'm saying mine

take it or don't take it... doesn't matter

noxxville
02-16-2003, 01:16 AM
I wasn't going to post here again...but I had to to take over the board.

noxxville
02-16-2003, 01:22 AM
Just wanted to see if I could do it...and how stupid I'd look for doing so

zenbabe
02-16-2003, 03:13 PM
I miss them, I hope they come back some day....

fodder
10-07-2003, 11:16 PM
this was cool

moel
10-07-2003, 11:17 PM
i don't sleep with plants.... anymore.

fodder
10-07-2003, 11:51 PM
:eek:

fodder
10-08-2003, 12:03 AM
coo coo

slurpeedemon
10-08-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by moel
i don't sleep with plants.... anymore.

I read, "I don't sleep with pants... anymore."

*rubs eyes*

AllegroNg
10-08-2003, 01:20 PM
Isn't that what he said?

Frieda
10-08-2003, 02:44 PM
who the hell brought this up?

and what's this about plants??

zenbabe
10-09-2003, 12:11 AM
I have plants in my pants!

:eek:

malina
10-09-2003, 12:13 AM
watch out for the ants on the plants in your pants!

:p

zenbabe
10-09-2003, 12:20 AM
Oh why, ohh why did she swallow the fly....

malina
10-09-2003, 12:40 AM
the fly, oh my, bastard had to die!