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nycwriters
12-20-2002, 08:23 PM
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dickieC
12-20-2002, 09:11 PM
Uh-oh
Philosophy
My brain hurts already.
The free-will-vs.-determinism dichotomy. Personally I think it's a matter for neuroscience and we just have to wait for the boffins to figure out the brain. Philosophy has posed this question for centuries and all the reasoning power applied hasn't answered this one. Some people try to argue (if I recall correctly) that it's false to pose the question as a dualism, that the two concepts are not actually opposed, or, further indeed, that it makes no sense to speak of free will exercised in a non-deterministic world. That is, that choice cannot operate without cause-and-effect, but NOT that a simple mechanistic concept of causation denies the agency of the choser. Me, I can't follow this and revert to a mechanistic determinism. And when I'm down, it's fatalism. (The most fun I ever had in Philosophy was working out the distinction between determinism and fatalism).
I would be interested to learn from people who've actually done neuroscience if this is good philosophy or not. These aren't my ideas I hasten to add.
P.S. Now you can all tell I'm not a proper philosopher.
P.P.S. Silly.
beckstra
12-20-2002, 09:12 PM
I thought it was beautiful.
Deviate
12-20-2002, 09:19 PM
NYC, i love you. oh, and i am very drunk.
-st.
masterofNone
12-20-2002, 09:50 PM
That which is, is a cookie. That which is not, is rum-raisin ice cream.
masterofNone
12-21-2002, 11:27 AM
I have summed up my philosophy quite nicely and now I leave you all to use as many words as you like to reach the same conclusion.
brevity is the soul of .... I fergit.
amanda
12-21-2002, 11:59 AM
short-attention spans.
lapietra
12-23-2002, 06:24 PM
HEY!!!!
I already posted about this!!!!!
...but your description was better...:rolleyes: :p :D
I love it. It works on so many levels - the way a truly great movie should - I've seen it a few times now on video & get something a little different from it every time.
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