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zero

10-12-2007, 06:37 AM

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¿ question of the day ? for friday 12th october:

what kind of creature was your pet that you named yesterday, and what did your guesser guess?

me:

rory was an ant - terry guessed parakeet

isla was a west highland terrier - terry guessed hen lol

jumbo was a hamster - zormix's guess just made herself http://forums.slizone.com/style_emoticons/slizone/blush.gif blush

bobby was a budgie - johnston guessed blue whale

Stephi_B

10-12-2007, 07:05 AM

Raimonda (*) was a grey-black striped housecat with white face and feet - Frieda guessed her a horse (**).

(*)name inspired by Ronald Biggs' Brazilian girlfriend Raimunda de Castro btw - I saw a film about them at that time we got the cat
(**)not entirely wrong though cos Raimi loved to watch the neighbours' horses - from a save distance

Hyakujo's Fox

10-12-2007, 07:34 AM

"the bird" was actually a budgerigar and not a sax player as hypothesised by craig johnston

T.I.P.

10-12-2007, 07:40 AM

Vermicelle was a tabby cat, long and stretchy (hence the name) - peryl guessed gerbil

Albert was a white cat with orange and black spots - aubrey guessed MOOSE. She used to scratch me because i was too little and she thought my parents gave me too much attention.

Jules was a rooster (zRo guessed hermit crab). He wasn't really a pet, he just hung out in the garden. He would chase me around and peck at me - a real meanie (i wasn't very much taller than him back then). My grandfather told me i should carry a stick around, and then basically gave me a glorified twig to do it with..it didn't really help, but him and my dad got a good kick out of watching me try to fend off the rooster with my twig. :rolleyes:

craig johnston

10-12-2007, 09:16 AM

"the bird" was actually a budgerigar and not a sax player as hypothesised by craig johnston

sorry fox. silly me. what was the name of your pet sax player though?

:confused:

madasacutsnake

10-12-2007, 09:51 AM

Twizzle was a part siamese tabby cat. Tunesmith guessed "parakeet".

trisherina

10-12-2007, 10:02 AM

I think auntie aubrey guessed "goldfish" for Nickel the mouse, but it got a little hard to read right around there.

auntie aubrey

10-12-2007, 11:31 AM

nutmeg was a dog, a terrier/lab mix that looked like benji as a platinum blonde. lukku guessed horse.

pete is a marmalade tabby cat, and the second hobo cat i ever took in. my roommate from that summer now owns him and changed his name to "sampson." pete was named after an iguana named pete that my friend pete owned. pete didn't name his iguana after himself, though. he named him after his friend pete. later i named a white 1993 toyota corolla after that cat. noxx guessed monkey.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-12-2007, 11:41 AM

sorry fox. silly me. what was the name of your pet sax player though?

:confused:

Kenny "Budgie" G.

brightpearl

10-12-2007, 11:57 AM

zero, did you name all of your ants, or just the one?

Vermicelle was a tabby cat, long and stretchy (hence the name) - peryl guessed gerbil

was thinking about the tail...
http://www.petoffice.co.jp/mbl/ph/zukan/mini300jpg/gerbil.jpg

Roosters are mad violent bastards, btw. You should be proud of having been brave enough to even go outside with one as a bitty guy. :D

This is a lot of fun, z; thanks for the topic. :)

zero

10-12-2007, 01:09 PM

zero, did you name all of your ants, or just the one?

:mad: waay too personal!!

brightpearl

10-12-2007, 01:27 PM

^no, too personal would be asking how frequently you had sex with your ants...:eek:

I was just curious how you crafted all their teeny little nametags.

auntie aubrey

10-12-2007, 01:31 PM

http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/p/4/using_loupe1.jpg

zero

10-12-2007, 01:35 PM

i only had the one ant, and that was rory. it was long time ago, yet sometimes to this day when (for example) i'm floating on a perfect angle of shoulder and pillow, i still find myself thinking back with infinite fond ness to that sunny afternoon we spent together.

12"razormix

10-12-2007, 02:44 PM

tony was a hamster. he found his sad death on my bike carrier rack one sunday afternoon as i had decided that he would benefit from going for a ride with me. being five years old, it did not occur to me that clamping poor tony to the back of my seat would break his spine... ( it did though )

tip's guess was frog.

zero

10-12-2007, 03:00 PM

so sad. still, at least tony died doing something that not many hamsters have done before or since. console yourself knowing that the same would have happened even if he had been a frog.

it was one of yours early hair clamps you used, presumably?

12"razormix

10-12-2007, 03:17 PM

it was one of yours early hair clamps you used, presumably? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/2/29/Fahrradgepaecktraeger.jpg/180px-Fahrradgepaecktraeger.jpg
this is what killed tony

zero

10-12-2007, 03:26 PM

o anyone could have made the same mistake xormiz, don't beat yourself up about it - who would have imagined that such an innocuous looking contraption would turn out to be a HAMSTER DEATH TRAP? twiggy forgives you.

12"razormix

10-12-2007, 03:30 PM

i wanted him to be HAPPY! :(

zero

10-12-2007, 03:38 PM

you did make him happy.. in a manner of speaking. see! he's looking down at you now from hamsterland in the sky, smiling happily. despite his little crumpled spine and grotesquely bulging eyeballs.

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12"razormix

10-12-2007, 03:41 PM

( i had 3 tonys in a row.. 2 more after tony no. 1! )

zero

10-12-2007, 04:13 PM

great!

(nobody ask her how tony2 and tony3 met their maker)

12"razormix

10-12-2007, 04:26 PM

tony no. 2 killed himself whilst trying to escape from his cage.

after tony no. 3 died ( a very wholesome natural death ), my parents bought a guinea pig for me.

i named it tony.

zero

10-12-2007, 04:34 PM

quite right - tony's the best name for any kind of rodent - why change it?

http://www.terraecuador.net/nuestra%20fauna/capibara.jpg

guess what his name is - EXACTLY - it's tony

T.I.P.

10-12-2007, 04:48 PM

^big nosed rodent, that one

zero

10-12-2007, 04:50 PM

ok then "tony big-nose"

craig johnston

10-12-2007, 04:50 PM

oooh, do you remember that thread where someone tortured their pet to death?

can the next question be about something other than pets please?

zero

10-12-2007, 04:52 PM

craig johnston

10-12-2007, 04:53 PM

why not?

T.I.P.

10-12-2007, 04:54 PM

^ that would make a good question of the day

"why not ?"

T.I.P.

10-12-2007, 04:57 PM

answer of the day:

--> because a toothless hag told me it was a bad idea

craig johnston

10-12-2007, 05:02 PM

^^
don't talk about erzo like that!

:eek:

craig johnston

10-13-2007, 07:37 AM

new question:

is your online personality a true reflection of your real self?

T.I.P.

10-13-2007, 07:48 AM

how could it not be ?

eta:
What i mean to say by that is, even if you are playing a role and giving yourself an online "persona", the sock puppet that you hold out in front of everyone else is still a reflection of yourself. It's simply impossible to be the observer and the observed at the same time, so even when you think you are cleverly dissimulating your "true" personality, bits and pieces of it are seeping through.

madasacutsnake

10-13-2007, 09:02 AM

I don't know. I defer to those who know me irl.

topcat

10-13-2007, 11:22 AM

no mad is really meanier irl

Hyakujo's Fox

10-13-2007, 11:27 AM

I don't know. I defer to those who know me irl.

I hope that avatar's not misleading.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-13-2007, 11:40 AM

is your online personality a true reflection of your real self?

it's more a imperfect reflection of part of my illusory self, but I post in good faith.

trisherina

10-13-2007, 11:52 AM

Irl snake is more girlish than she appears. I wish I had a better word but it's close.

In general, I agree with T.I.P. My observation is that people who (seemingly) try to hide or minimize aspects of themselves end up more transparent than they probably would ever want to know.

craig johnston

10-13-2007, 12:57 PM

it's not a question of trying. i just am different to craig johnston.
let's face it, no one could be that chipper! i never consciously set
out to create an online personality, it just happened, and i was
wondering if others had had the same experience.

Frieda

10-13-2007, 01:03 PM

well, of course there's stuff i won't talk about here (like work) and i don't go around using my real name.. but that's mostly because i don't want any next employers read about my hasselhoff fetish.

i do respond here like i would irl. i have no clue on how to pretend i'm someone else. i'm good at acting whenever there's a script and character description to follow, but freestyle sockpuppeting is not my thing.

maybe rob can enlighten you guys on how i am irl.. we met up a couple of years ago.

zero

10-13-2007, 01:05 PM

when people meet me for the first time they'll often remark upon my great sense of humour, come-to-bed eyes and smouldering looks. then they'll say, for example: "omg zero - yours eyebrows!! you, zero, are very similar in appearance to academy award-winning puerto rican actor and film producer benicio del toro." yeh, admittedly i tend to play that side of me down when i'm online, so's to avoid a big fuss.

Frieda

10-13-2007, 01:13 PM

so, am i the only one being myself here? :confused:

how does anyone "develop" an online personality, how does this work?

T.I.P.

10-13-2007, 01:55 PM

No, and as i said i think most people here are also being themselves, whether consciously or not. If I felt compelled to change my personality to fit in here, i would probably think better of it and leave.

I'll add that online environments (like Second Life, for instance) can allow people to live in alternate realities and escape the drudgery of their everyday lives. They can be rich, beautiful and the life of the party online, when in reality they are rather ordinary. Those environments are fine as long as they remain a game - a place for testing real world things, like opening a business or whatever else you would need a testing ground for before taking it to the real world.

The danger is that some people become attached to their online persona, and try to escape the disappointments of real by living permanently in their fantasm. They stop trying to do cool stuff in real life because they can't control outcomes in real life the way they can online.

I guess that kind of escapism is possible, to some extent, on a bulletin board.

ok now my message is way too long. ack.

Anna

10-13-2007, 02:12 PM

individual quotes not working for me and it's only my opinion.

it's not a question of trying. i just am different to craig johnston. let's face it, no one could be that chipper! i never consciously set out to create an online personality, it just happened, and i was wondering if others had had the same experience

I'll never know the real you on line because I'm missing a big part of you, your physical presence. It's a fine line. Most people will say things on line they would never say irl to a stranger. Real life is far more intense and complex. Being online is like being a pleasant or an angry tourist, either way eventually you have to go home.

well, of course there's stuff i won't talk about here (like work) and i don't go around using my real name..

smart and practical in today's world, a necessity unless it's your job or you're an independently wealthy eccentric. People have lost their positions because of their online personality.

when people meet me for the first time they'll often remark upon my great sense of humour, come-to-bed eyes and smouldering looks. then they'll say, for example: "omg zero - yours eyebrows!! you, zero, are very similar in appearance to academy award-winning puerto rican actor and film producer benicio del toro." yeh, admittedly i tend to play that side of me down when i'm online, so's to avoid a big fuss.

I believe every word.

so, am i the only one being myself here? how does anyone "develop" an online personality, how does this work?

Extreme online personalities are hit and run, but an average online personality will typically keep their personal information isolated. Regardless, you're always giving up a little bit of your privacy and perhaps a tiny piece of your soul because the internets never forgets and administration has your ip ;)

Anna

10-13-2007, 02:35 PM

No, and as i said i think most people here are also being themselves, whether consciously or not. If I felt compelled to change my personality to fit in here, i would probably think better of it and leave.

but we act in different ways in different places, even in real life, no?

I'll add that online environments (like Second Life, for instance) can allow people to live in alternate realities and escape the drudgery of their everyday lives. They can be rich, beautiful and the life of the party online, when in reality they are rather ordinary. Those environments are fine as long as they remain a game - a place for testing real world things, like opening a business or whatever else you would need a testing ground for before taking it to the real world.

The danger is that some people become attached to their online persona, and try to escape the disappointments of real by living permanently in their fantasm. They stop trying to do cool stuff in real life because they can't control outcomes in real life the way they can online.

I guess that kind of escapism is possible, to some extent, on a bulletin board.

If you have that bent in your personality you'll end up finding a way to escape disappointment regardless, if not online, drugs, drink or therapy.

ok now my message is way too long. ack.
nah, on line social networking is a very compelling and modern topic, each year it's having a greater and greater impact on our lives. Most people in my day to day have never even heard of you tube. I am now a corrupting force of nature ;)

zero

10-13-2007, 03:01 PM

how does anyone "develop" an online personality, how does this work?

frieda it may be helpful to consider the case of xormiz's online arse:

xormiz has developed her online arse - it isnie a true reflection of her real arse.;)

T.I.P.

10-13-2007, 03:07 PM

I am now a corrupting force of nature ;)

you forgot exquisite

an "exquisite" corrupting force of nature ;)

Don't take it too seriously though, i probably wouldn't have had the guts to say that in real life :p

12"razormix

10-13-2007, 03:13 PM

isn't this real life?? :(

12"razormix

10-13-2007, 03:14 PM

isnie a true reflection of her real arseis too! i resent that :mad:

zero

10-13-2007, 03:29 PM

^must've been developing hers offline arse as well.

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auntie aubrey

10-13-2007, 04:59 PM

i would say i'm very similar offline to how i am online with one exception that i think is fairly common. online i'm more aggressive. what i mean is, offline i'm far more likely to be conscious of how my words affect people and consider those consequences before opening my big fat mouth. i'm also more likely to consider how intimately i know someone before opening my big fat mouth. online i'm less likely to consider the consequences and since most interpersonal contact is not intimate, i don't usually consider how well i know someone before responding to something.

actually i don't know if aggressive is the right word, now that i think of it. i'm frank/blunt and say what's on my mind both on and offline. but offline i'm far more likely to weigh consequences and other external factors before doing so.

i also would say my reactions to things are more hyperbolic online just for the entertainment value. i'll overreact positively or negatively in an online capacity because i find emotional outbursts funny in a text-only environment. for example i don't really get "mad" about things offline, but i'll express "madness" online even if i am, in reality, not mad. this is particularly true with other strong emotions like outrage. i'll express it online, even though offline it's not something i would give much thought to. if that makes any sense.

it's like an exaggerated caricature version of personality.

but in general, you're getting pretty much the same auntie all ways 'round.

12"razormix

10-13-2007, 05:04 PM

( in real life, i don't carry a bucket on my head )

zero

10-13-2007, 05:45 PM

ok maybe not on your head, but i know for a fact that you do carry one

Frieda

10-13-2007, 06:35 PM

Being online is like being a pleasant or an angry tourist, either way eventually you have to go home.

i am home, i don't feel a tourist here.. or on any other bulletin board i frequent.. or when chatting to friends.. etc.. it's real life. we don't call it "real life", but it became real life, as soon as i made friends, discussed my daily stuff, etc.. and why shouldn't it be real life? :)

Odbe

10-13-2007, 07:09 PM

I think I have an online persona, but it's not too different from my rl self, or at least I hope not. The biggest difference is that on a message board I can take a long time to type out my post, or even get to the end of a post, delete it and hit the back button. I end up saying more things I regret in real life. That said I still post things I regret.

Also, I don't think anyone can be exactly the same online or offline, because online you can't use body language and expressions. There are emoticons, but they have a very narrow range whereas actual expressions can be very subtle. Face-to-face you can get your message across, then read the other person's reaction and (even unconsciously) alter the way you express yourself until you think they are getting what you're saying. Online you have to do a lot of guesswork as you can't really tell the intended tone of a message, and indeed many flaming matches start because someone reads an angry tone into a calm message.

Anna

10-13-2007, 07:22 PM

i am home, i don't feel a tourist here.. or on any other bulletin board i frequent.. or when chatting to friends.. etc.. it's real life. we don't call it "real life", but it became real life, as soon as i made friends, discussed my daily stuff, etc.. and why shouldn't it be real life? :)

Well technically real life is what ever is happening to you regardless of the place or platform. But I think the original term irl comes from that fact that there is no physical contact between the people communicating apart from electronic means; practical ideas or fantasy. When I click on my mouse, I am not able to touch your arm while expressing a point or when I type these words I am unable to look into your eyes and speak them. So the tactile audio/visual elements are missing. I'm not saying that strong connections and bonds can’t be formed on line, I recognize that some of the most beautiful and profound moments in historical relationships where through correspondence, but they are different from what society and psychology has regarded as traditional mind and body relationships. I can communicate with you instantly half way round the world in seconds and that's an amazing thing, but it is also limited to the realm of ideas, ebay and pay pal. Forming on line friends and community relationship is pioneering and a whole new science. I believe that for every technological advancement humanity makes something is also lost, but as a realist I also know there's little that can be done to stop change without effort.

brightpearl

10-13-2007, 09:43 PM

It's possible that my online persona is a truer reflection of myself than my irl persona with people I don't know really, really well. I'm not sure. I guess both are incomplete.

Like Hfox, I post in good faith.

Stephi_B

10-14-2007, 10:06 AM

is your online personality a true reflection of your real self?

Yes, I think so. Am not overly good at pretending (consciously or unconsciously), neither on- nor offline.

New question for Oct 14th 2007:

What do you think is your 1) best and 2) worst quality?

My answer:
1) forgive others relatively easy
2) stubbornness

trisherina

10-14-2007, 12:12 PM

1) perserverance, always
2) when it becomes ruthlessness

xfox

10-14-2007, 12:33 PM

friendly

overly friendly

T.I.P.

10-14-2007, 12:57 PM

1) adaptability
2) instability

Tunesmith

10-14-2007, 01:01 PM

1) curiosity
2) insecurity

Damn, I missed the coolest ¿ question of the day ? yet...

craig johnston

10-14-2007, 01:32 PM

modesty

arrogance

brightpearl

10-14-2007, 04:19 PM

tenacious/stubborn

really it's just the one quality in yin and yang forms
actually several people have responded similarly...

Frieda

10-14-2007, 05:41 PM

a big heart
sloth

lukkucairi

10-14-2007, 05:59 PM

1) kind
2) self-doubting

or maybe

1) driven
2) stubborn

or maybe

1) intelligent
2) hasty

don't these things come in natural dyads?

Anna

10-14-2007, 06:19 PM

reasonable/apathtic

zero

10-15-2007, 07:02 AM

.

¿ question of the day ? for monday 15th october:

http://www.sketchzilla.com/madlibs/pill.gif (http://www.ivoryboy.com/difference.html) - [requires FLASH]

how did you do?

Stephi_B

10-15-2007, 07:05 AM

No Flash on my evil 64-bit machine here :( *sobbing*

brightpearl

10-15-2007, 07:33 AM

^^I gave up with 2 left on the guy dangling from the bridge.

Those are gorgeous.

Anna

10-15-2007, 08:01 AM

crazymonkeyivoryboy

Hyakujo's Fox

10-15-2007, 08:29 AM

http://i24.tinypic.com/34qwlth.jpg

trisherina

10-15-2007, 10:00 AM

4, darn it I have to get ready for work

auntie aubrey

10-15-2007, 11:04 AM

Jack Flanders

10-15-2007, 05:24 PM

found them all!! that was fun :)

Tunesmith

10-15-2007, 07:07 PM

got up to the "floating umbrella" one, then realized that I was 15 minutes late for my class :mad:

thanks zero - very beautiful :)

edit: up to the "buckle up" one, and 20 minutes late :rolleyes:

Frieda

10-15-2007, 07:08 PM

i can't find more than 4 in the first image-- help! :eek:

Frieda

10-15-2007, 07:22 PM

never mind- made it to the end :)

Brynn

10-15-2007, 10:19 PM

that was neat - I made it to the end, but I admit I was randomly clicking on everything by the time i got to the "come back soon" sign :)

auntie aubrey

10-16-2007, 12:59 AM

the spouse and i finished them all, 3 minutes before midnight. so technically that still counts for today's question o' the day.

seebe

10-16-2007, 12:29 PM

I can't get to the last one with that damn blinking stop sign. I clicked on everything too like Brynn but it didn't work. Did I leave a micro metre untouched? God only knows. I studied it so hard my left eye now has a permanent twitch in it. If some big ugly person comes to my door and thinks I'm winking at him and molests me because of it..it's on you Orez. :(

T.I.P.

10-16-2007, 12:34 PM

* patiently waiting for someone to produce a ¿ question of the day ?™ *

brightpearl

10-16-2007, 12:37 PM

What was the last book you read for fun?
You can offer a little review or synopsis if you'd like...

T.I.P.

10-16-2007, 01:16 PM

right now i'm reading The Sound And The Fury by William Faulkner

it was excrutiatingly painful to get into - i think it took me 3 weeks
to read the first chapter, and I had to alternate with Pratchett books
in between paragraphs just to maintain the memory that reading
is, in fact, fun.

Now that i've reached the final pages of the book it has become an
incredible page turner; it's like i can smell hear see touch taste
everything going on in the book, and I'm there alongside Jason
Compson, urging him on, encouraging him to step on the gas
in his collision course with the terrible DOOM that he has so skillfully
crafted for himself using all the pride and hatred and bigotry that he
could muster, and yet I can't help but feel sorry for him and feel
a sort of kinship with him because who says I wouldn't have become
him in similar circumstances, what gives me the right to judge him ?

Stephi_B

10-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Mmh, that would have been re-reading the Sin City comics by Frank Miller and before that My Name is Red by Orhan Pamuk (his best book so far imo!).

auntie aubrey

10-16-2007, 01:29 PM

"bangkok 8" by john burdett (http://www.amazon.com/Bangkok-8-Novel-John-Burdett/dp/1400032903/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-7762445-7025457?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192551963&sr=8-2)

it was a moderately enjoyable read, aside from a staggeringly slow section about a third of the way in. i had a difficult time getting my head around the idea that the author is a white american, writing in first person from the perspective of a native-born thai who expresses opinions about his culture in contrast to the rest of the world. i felt a little bit like, who do you think you are speaking for the thai people? i had a similar problem with "memoirs of a geisha" so i think that's just me.

also, towards the end a plot twist shows up that made me think john burdett had a checklist of thai stereotypes that he was running through and as he was trying to wrap things up he suddenly realized he'd forgotten one. and had to scramble to fit it in.

hmm. this review sounds like i didn't like it. it's not that i didn't like it. it's that i've liked so many other books so much more.

brightpearl

10-16-2007, 02:01 PM

Technically, the last book I read for fun was Captain Underpants and the Perilous Plot of Professor Poopypants. There's a character in it named Chuckles Jingleberry McMonkeyburger, Jr. What's not to love?

However, the last book I read to myself silently in my own head :) was The Path to the Spiders' Nests, by Italo Calvino. It's an odd little read. The main character is a child, named Pin, who is in a kind of developmental limbo between other children and the adults who are around him, most of whom are Partisans in WWII Italy. Pin steals a gun from a Nazi, and his thoughts become preoccupied with it...the title is from the hiding place he chooses for the gun. In a way, it reminded me of Huck Finn -- it's a boy's take on a complex socio-political situation. He's still something of an innocent and can't really understand most of what's going on around him, yet he's near enough to the brink to become embroiled in it.

auntie aubrey

10-16-2007, 02:04 PM

Captain Underpants and the Perilous Plot of Professor Poopypants

that's a good one. i'm woman enough to admit that i'm a fan.

brightpearl

10-16-2007, 02:11 PM

^perhaps you would like to play booger tetris (http://pilkey.com/boogerbuster2000.php)

Frieda

10-16-2007, 03:16 PM

does the ikea guide count as book?

Tunesmith

10-16-2007, 03:16 PM

"bangkok 8" by john burdett (http://www.amazon.com/Bangkok-8-Novel-John-Burdett/dp/1400032903/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-7762445-7025457?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192551963&sr=8-2)

auntie, I just started that couple of days ago, but I'm not far enough into it to have a feel for the novel. I'm guessing that I haven't reached the slow section yet, since Pichai's (spelled?) drive-by-snaking has done nothing short of drive the main character across the city.

Right now, I'm reading around 15 books, but the only one which I can commit to nightly is Lolita, by Vladimir Nabokov. I have the annotated version, which analyzes nearly every metaphor, allusion, or quotation, and features quotes from interviews with Nabokov. If you take the time to flip back and forth between the novel and the notes, and really savor each sentence, it's an entirely different experience than if you breeze through each chapter.

Tunesmith

10-16-2007, 03:22 PM

However, the last book I read to myself silently in my own head :) was The Path to the Spiders' Nests, by Italo Calvino. It's an odd little read. The main character is a child, named Pin, who is in a kind of developmental limbo between other children and the adults who are around him, most of whom are Partisans in WWII Italy. Pin steals a gun from a Nazi, and his thoughts become preoccupied with it...the title is from the hiding place he chooses for the gun. In a way, it reminded me of Huck Finn -- it's a boy's take on a complex socio-political situation. He's still something of an innocent and can't really understand most of what's going on around him, yet he's near enough to the brink to become embroiled in it.

That sounds amazing...I just finished Calvino's Invisible Cities, which was one of the most beautiful books I've ever read. Does The Path have the same flowing prose that comes from great Italian translations?

brightpearl

10-16-2007, 04:09 PM

does the ikea guide count as book?
:D Well, it's certainly riveting.

That sounds amazing...I just finished Calvino's Invisible Cities, which was one of the most beautiful books I've ever read. Does The Path have the same flowing prose that comes from great Italian translations?

That's one of the reasons I thought it was odd. I'm not sure whether it was the translation or the original, but I thought it had a kind of split personality in terms of the flowing prose thing. Parts of it definitely, definitely flow, with such a particular character that you can almost tell it was originally written in Italian or Spanish. Other parts, particularly the dialog, seem a little stilted. It didn't bother me much, however, because the dialog is largely appropriate given Pin's age. By the time I finished it, I came to think that the juxtaposition improved the book. But it is odd.

zero

10-16-2007, 05:18 PM

LOGISCH-PHILOSOPHISCHE ABHANDLUNG!!!!

i breezed through TRACTATUS LOGICO-PHILOSOPHICUS by ludwig wittgenstein (in both the english AND the original german) on the train this morning JUST FOR FUN. hahahaha! yeh, EASY:cool: hooray for me! i understood all of it and will be putting it into practice starting tomorrow.

brightpearl

10-16-2007, 05:32 PM

^If you enjoyed that, I'm certain you would enjoy Captain Underpants. He's heavily into the picture theory of propositions.

lukkucairi

10-16-2007, 05:40 PM

I'm halfway through the Age of Turbulence by Alan Greenspan.

it's actually very good :)

auntie aubrey

10-16-2007, 06:00 PM

auntie, I just started that couple of days ago, but I'm not far enough into it to have a feel for the novel. I'm guessing that I haven't reached the slow section yet, since Pichai's (spelled?) drive-by-snaking has done nothing short of drive the main character across the city.

it's not a large slow section, and you may not even interpret it as slow. it's around the time that pichai meets up with the americans (soon thereafter). that's a bit of information revealed on the book jacket so hopefully you don't consider it a spoiler.

it wasn't a major slowdown but it hadn't really hooked me yet, so even a little slowdown was a little disappointing.

there was an element of the book that made me think "douglas coupland relocates from vancouver to thailand." if you read any douglas coupland, you might pick up on that element, too.

madasacutsnake

10-16-2007, 07:29 PM

Cold Blooded Murders; True Crimes That Rocked Australia

Anna

10-16-2007, 09:37 PM

Letter Perfect The Art of Modernist Typography 1896-1953, by David Ryan. Very exciting especially if you like the de stijl, dada and bauhaus. Lots of wonderful pictures too :)

trisherina

10-17-2007, 01:26 AM

LOGISCH-PHILOSOPHISCHE ABHANDLUNG!!!!

You waited for tradepaper, didn't you? Slacker.

The last book I read for fun was Atonement. I was at the beach under a big umbrella while my daughter played in the water. That was fun.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-17-2007, 03:03 AM

For fun? Mostly I read for pleasure, but for fun, which is a kind of pleasure too, I read God Is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens. :D

trisherina

10-17-2007, 09:28 AM

Where's that kissing on the cheek picture when you need it?

auntie aubrey

10-17-2007, 11:40 AM

in a picture frame behind another picture.

Frieda

10-17-2007, 11:41 AM

Where's that kissing on the cheek picture when you need it?

is this the new question of the day?

T.I.P.

10-17-2007, 11:59 AM

in the glove compratment of your new volvo

zero

10-17-2007, 01:27 PM

is this the new question of the day?

is this today's ¿ question of the day ??

brightpearl

10-17-2007, 07:16 PM

Where's that kissing on the cheek picture when you need it?

Is this it?
http://www.e-folio.co.uk/images/cheek_kiss.jpg

T.I.P.

10-17-2007, 07:18 PM

i think somebody needs to reboot this thread. It got caught up in a recursive loop, and possible stackdump.

brightpearl

10-17-2007, 07:20 PM

http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50349294/Rain_Boot.jpg

auntie aubrey

10-17-2007, 09:39 PM

^ that's just a boot.

this is a reboot:

http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50349294/Rain_Boot.jpg

lukkucairi

10-17-2007, 10:10 PM

^^^ :D:D:D

*harrumph*

not-quite-question-of-the-day
(more like question of the next few hours)

...but it's an important one:

how full is your box?

mine is 93% full. :p

auntie aubrey

10-17-2007, 10:30 PM

i dumped my sent messages the other day so i'm good at just under 70%.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-18-2007, 01:24 AM

14.3% - but look at the quality!

T.I.P.

10-18-2007, 05:08 AM

i have a tidily kept box, just over 71.8%

madasacutsnake

10-18-2007, 06:44 AM

38.5% and none of it is quality.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-18-2007, 09:17 AM

...especially the Sent.

Stephi_B

10-18-2007, 10:20 AM

70.0% - dunno how I got such an exact value :confused:

zero

10-18-2007, 01:02 PM

correlation between %full ness and POPULARITY

T.I.P.

10-18-2007, 01:24 PM

correlation between %full ness and POPULARITY

there is no correlation since %full ness is defined modulo 100

it is like correlating how many biscuits you have left in today's bag and how big your arse is

zero

10-18-2007, 01:44 PM

don't be daft

btw mine's empty therefore it's obviously an inverse correlation

craig johnston

10-18-2007, 06:35 PM

we all love you 0

;)

new question:

what other websites do you regularly visit?

me- hot asian chix (gold premium member)
teamtalk (liverpool news and chat)
itunes
juno (music)

Frieda

10-18-2007, 07:04 PM

bulletin.zefrank.com
zefrank.com
nu.nl
tweakers.net
gmail.com
ikea.nl
lafraise.com

ehh? :confused:

edited to add:
youtube.com

lukkucairi

10-18-2007, 07:32 PM

oh god I CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER!

auntie aubrey

10-18-2007, 08:57 PM

darktrain.org
livejournal.com
flickr.com
gmail.com
nanowrimo.org

Tunesmith

10-18-2007, 09:00 PM

erm...lemme think

bulletin.zefrank.com
reddit
Youtube
Postsecret (and recently, the community)
indymedia.com (news)
defectiveyeti.com (great blog)
pandora.com (best Internet radio site)
answers.yahoo.com
Flickr
gruvr.com (awesome program to find bands playing nearby)
netflix.com
plus a whole slew o' webcomics

...and that's how I procrastinate. :rolleyes:

trisherina

10-18-2007, 11:10 PM

Remote Outlook Web Access
A Dress A Day
Environment Canada Weather
SDMB
Some private blogs
Etsy & eBay

Odbe

10-19-2007, 03:02 AM

very regularly:
www.deviantart.com
bulletin.zefrank.com
www.gmail.com

sometimes:
instructables
plime
xkcd
postsecret (weekly)
flickr

T.I.P.

10-19-2007, 06:05 AM

Daring Fireball (started recently, good short articles if you skip the Macnerdery)
The Sneeze (thanks pearly)
A softer world (thanks hfox)
paris-art.com
NYT
private blogs

Anna

10-19-2007, 06:20 AM

all of them

Stephi_B

10-19-2007, 06:36 AM

bulletin.zefrank.com
spiegel.de, dw-world.de, bbc.co.uk
web.de, our uni mail server
motor.de/motorfm (internet cafe), xfm.co.uk (work)
youtube.com
wikipedia.org
amazon.de

zero

10-19-2007, 06:45 AM

arsebook

auntie aubrey

10-19-2007, 10:24 AM

i forgot to list this site. that means i don't read this site.

zero

10-19-2007, 01:40 PM

arsesreuinted

auntie aubrey

10-19-2007, 03:17 PM

lazymanfred.gov

T.I.P.

10-19-2007, 03:20 PM

SUHTUPman.edu

zero

10-19-2007, 03:39 PM

eBiscuit

auntie aubrey

10-19-2007, 04:02 PM

toasts4bread.org

zero

10-19-2007, 04:14 PM

secondarse

craig johnston

10-19-2007, 05:53 PM

i forgot bbc, guardian and you tube of course
101greatgoals.com is good for footy

zero

10-19-2007, 06:03 PM

neopeas

craig johnston

10-19-2007, 06:05 PM

is that an anagarm?

;)

madasacutsnake

10-20-2007, 05:26 AM

New question.

Have you ever hurt some-one then tried to forget about it?

Odbe

10-20-2007, 06:23 AM

I think so, but the forgetting worked too well :o

craig johnston

10-20-2007, 06:45 AM

if anyone answers no, they are dishonest.

T.I.P.

10-20-2007, 07:10 AM

I have indeed hurt someone in the past. I doubt there is a single person who hasn't.

i'm more inclined to spend effort on forgiving myself and trying to understand why I did this or that instead of trying to forget. Some things you just can't forget, and the more you try not to think about them, the more you end up thinking about them.

Fundamentally, who "I" am is constantly changing. The person that I was when I harmed someone else is not the person that I am now. I know I am capable of forgiving other people - why not forgive myself ? This does not preclude taking responsibility for my acts - it just means gaining more understanding about why I acted that way, and then moving on, trying not to repeat the same mistakes.

12"razormix

10-20-2007, 09:54 AM

no.

zero

10-20-2007, 10:22 AM

Have you ever hurt some-one then tried to forget about it?
if anyone answers no, they are dishonest.

stand clear everyone this ¿ question of the day ? is booby-trapped

12"razormix

10-20-2007, 10:25 AM

what's that on your shirt?

zero

10-20-2007, 10:39 AM

xomriz don't act daft - you know full well that i'm stripped to the waist as i normally am when i'm interacting with you

12"razormix

10-20-2007, 10:43 AM

thank you for not posting pictures!

zero

10-20-2007, 10:49 AM

you just said that to hurt me and then you'll forget it!!

12"razormix

10-20-2007, 10:51 AM

TRY to forget it.

zero

10-20-2007, 11:03 AM

true. the TRY bit's crucial in this ¿ question of the day ?

johnston didnie take note of that

Frieda

10-20-2007, 11:41 AM

i've only tried to forget the times i got hurt.. especially the embarrassing moments..

but oh i've hurt plenty. forgiven, never forgotten :)

lukkucairi

10-20-2007, 01:03 PM

hm - not very good at forgetting.

but yes. also possible that I hurt someone just being a jackass and didn't notice at the time.

Tunesmith

10-20-2007, 11:45 PM

Yes, but I tend to hyperfocus on the couple of times when I've really hurt someone, so it's almost impossible to forget.

If anyone uses the words "Brandon Tansey" or "yellow kickball" or "playground woodchips", my mind zooms back to the time in 2nd grade where I got into a fight with my best friend and ended up punching him. :o

Hyakujo's Fox

10-21-2007, 02:31 AM

Stephi_B

10-21-2007, 08:10 AM

Yep, but point 2 (forgetting it) does work out only until I get in one of that sentimental moods (2++ L of beer or it's equivalent in some other alcoholica or that bloody early darkness in autumn/winter), then stuff pops up again.

brightpearl

10-21-2007, 12:36 PM

question for Sunday, Oct. 21:

Are you aware of your sense of smell in your dreams?

trisherina

10-21-2007, 12:42 PM

Sure. Sense of smell is very important to me while awake, so it makes sense that it would appear in all my dream-memories.

auntie aubrey

10-21-2007, 12:44 PM

rarely, if ever. i'm trying to think if i've had awareness of smell in a dream but i can't think of a specific instance.

smell is more of an awakening sensation. if i actually smell something it will wake me up from a dead sleep. it doesn't really work its way into my subconscious. that i'm aware of.

T.I.P.

10-21-2007, 12:52 PM

Smells are also important to me in real life, and i think i can smell things in my dreams, though i've never really paid attention to that sense in my dreams. I will try tonight.

(OT digression:

A new addition to my dream sensations was feeling of INTENSE pain in my left hand in a dream i had last week. really wierd. I don't think i've ever felt pain like that in a dream. When i woke up my hand felt fine :confused: )

brightpearl

10-21-2007, 01:07 PM

^I had my fingers shut in a door last week.

That TIP voodoo doll is coming in really handy. :D

I don't have a very good sense of smell at all in my waking hours; I grew up in an area with really bad air pollution, so maybe the inside of my nose is dead. :eek: Oddly, though, I sometimes have olfactory hallucinations before I get migraines, and my sense of smell often plays a big part in my dreams. I was telling someone a dream of mine recently, and she was surprised I ever smelled things, so I've been wondering which is more common.

T.I.P.

10-21-2007, 01:17 PM

^I had my fingers shut in a door last week.

That TIP voodoo doll is coming in really handy. :D

:eek:

and i take it you're the one whose been calling my wierdo neighbor at 5AM ?

lukkucairi

10-21-2007, 01:26 PM

yes, I remember smelling things in dreams.

I have also been woken up from dreams by smells that were so strong they intruded into my sleep.

note: lentils before bed is not a good idea :)

brightpearl

10-21-2007, 01:31 PM

^LOL :D

and i take it you're the one whose been calling my wierdo neighbor at 5AM ?

After consultation with my legal team, I have elected to exercise my right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

Frieda

10-21-2007, 03:51 PM

i'm not sure if i smell things in my dreams..

Avalon

10-21-2007, 05:40 PM

i'm not sure if i smell things in my dreams..

Yes

My dad died many years ago; in my dream, I am aware that he is gone...I identified him (in my dream) by burying my face in his shirt and breathing in deeply. It was my dad...his scent was immediately identifiable. It made me infinitely happy.

auntie aubrey

10-21-2007, 06:35 PM

^ okay yes, i have had one of those. just one.

brightpearl

10-21-2007, 06:37 PM

^^Yeah, me too...I dreamed about helping my friend's wife go through his things after he'd died, and I could smell him on his shirts as I packed them away. It's interesting that that comes up frequently for people...

Tunesmith

10-22-2007, 12:29 AM

No, not that I'm aware of...my dreams are usually these trippy landscapes that seem as if my subconscious has been experimenting w/ LSD.

I had one last night in which I was photographing myself photographing myself photographing myself photographing myself...in some kind of strange loop. :cool:

Stephi_B

10-22-2007, 06:31 AM

^Fascinating dream loop thingie :)

No, can't remember ever smelling something in my dreams. Sounds are rather rare, my dreams are mostly visual I'd say and some sort of motion is quite common too.

T.I.P.

10-22-2007, 06:41 AM

I had one last night in which I was photographing myself photographing myself photographing myself photographing myself...in some kind of strange loop. :cool:

one day, when you start working in a big shot design firm, you will have dreams of photographing yourself photoshopping your photograph of yourself photographing yourself photoshopping your photograph of yourself photographing...etc..ad infinitum

and won't that be fun ? ;)

Hyakujo's Fox

10-22-2007, 08:22 AM

I'm not aware of any awareness.

madasacutsnake

10-22-2007, 08:24 AM

I don't recall having any sense of smell in my dreams. However I have been woken from a deep sleep by Eau de That Was Dog.

lukkucairi

10-22-2007, 11:40 AM

*question*

do you ever get deja vu?

I get deja vu of having had deja vu of having had deja vu in an infinite regression. does this happen to anyone else?

Stephi_B

10-22-2007, 11:49 AM

Yes, and yes also such nested ones. One was after me over several years, though you couldn't ask me now what it was exactly. It was a combination of many things: time of the day, place, voices, succession of a conversation... though I forgot till the next deja-vu of the deja-vu of the deja-vu...

But I don't have them so often today, as kid and teenie I had them a lot.
Maybe deja-vus correlate somehow with the amount of imagination one has? :confused:

zero

10-22-2007, 11:57 AM

*question*

do you ever get deja vu?

I get deja vu of having had deja vu of having had deja vu in an infinite regression. does this happen to anyone else?

Frieda

10-22-2007, 12:39 PM

yes, it happens to me too

T.I.P.

10-22-2007, 12:47 PM

i've noticed i get déjà-vus at pivotal moments in my life.
These pivotal moments usually occur after moments of great activity, hence a lack of sleep, hence the déjà-vus

Just the same, i've learned to pay attention when i get a déjà-vu - it's like a signal that tells me something important is happening or about to happen.

brightpearl

10-22-2007, 01:29 PM

^Yeah, I get it more often when there are intense things going on, too...
What's that about? :confused: :)

auntie aubrey

10-22-2007, 05:28 PM

sure. i've only gotten the recursive sensation in recent years. the sudden sense that i've experienced the sudden sense that i've experienced this before.

craig johnston

10-22-2007, 05:48 PM

i think i've read this thread before.
and a few others.

;)

Tunesmith

10-22-2007, 06:35 PM

I get deja vu of having had deja vu of having had deja vu in an infinite regression. does this happen to anyone else?

Totally, and it's completely paralyzing. Everything feels so...in place and predictable for that moment that it seems wrong to break the spell.

Sorry for the hijacking, but...

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nnb_O9FlKJ8"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nnb_O9FlKJ8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

I can't resist. :D

lukkucairi

10-22-2007, 08:59 PM

^^ oh, but it's a good one :D

I got deja vu actually this afternoon, again - the infinite regression kind.

is there such a thing as suggestible deja vu?

and will TIP forgive us for not using the correct accents over the e and a?

:p

brightpearl

10-22-2007, 09:24 PM

^yes, as long as we all remember to hold our forks correctly.
:D

auntie aubrey

10-22-2007, 09:39 PM

neither here nor there:

Déjà vécu

Usually translated as 'already lived,' déjà vécu is described in a quotation from Charles Dickens:
“We have all some experience of a feeling, that comes over us occasionally, of what we are saying and doing having been said and done before, in a remote time – of our having been surrounded, dim ages ago, by the same faces, objects, and circumstances – of our knowing perfectly what will be said next, as if we suddenly remember it!”

When most people speak of déjà vu, they are actually experiencing déjà vécu. Surveys have revealed that as much as 70% of the population have had these experiences, usually between ages 15 to 25, when the mind is still subjectable to noticing the change in environment. The experience is usually related to a very ordinary event, but it is so striking that it is remembered for several years afterwards.

Déjà vécu refers to an experience involving more than just sight, which is why labeling such "déjà vu" is usually inaccurate. The sense involves a great amount of detail, sensing that everything is just as it was before and a weird knowledge of what is going to be said or happen next.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-22-2007, 09:40 PM

*question*

do you ever get deja vu?

I get deja vu of having had deja vu of having had deja vu in an infinite regression. does this happen to anyone else?

it's freaky when you get that meta deja vu for the first time. now I don't think I ever get deja vu without the deja vuity getting wrapped up in its own deja vuness. that convinces me that deja vu is not actually the feeling that something has happened before, but for some reason feels like the feeling that something has happened before.

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 05:34 AM

question for Sunday, Oct. 21:

Are you aware of your sense of smell in your dreams?

for those of you interested in catching up on the state of the art in dream science, there are a number of interesting articles in today's online NYT science section

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/science/index.html?th&emc=th

zero

10-23-2007, 06:04 AM

:mad: oi! excusez moi monsieur! mais ecoutez - bollocks to dream science, i'm noticing some folk just cannie seem to stop themselves from blahblahblahing on about ¿ questions of the day ? long after the question's had it's day

* no answering or discussing this question after today. at midnight somebody must pose a new ¿ question of the day ?

thank you for your kind assistance in these matters and post a new ¿ question of the day ? while you're at it

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 06:32 AM

you're absolutely right it's intolerable all this blahblahblahing around here after the day is done.

I have just the question to set things straight:

¿ Is there a sequence of events (3 or more) that you repeat every day in exactly the same order, in which each gesture has been repeated so many times that it is now reduced to a minimalist expression of perfection ?

zero

10-23-2007, 06:43 AM

¿ Is there a sequence of events (3 or more) that you repeat every day in exactly the same order, in which each gesture has been repeated so many times that it is now reduced to a minimalist expression of perfection ?

could you repeat the ¿ question of the day ? please?

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 06:53 AM

i would be happy to oblige but the RULES of this thread oblige me to refrain any déjà "vous"

brightpearl

10-23-2007, 07:04 AM

zero

10-23-2007, 07:14 AM

.
¿ Is there a sequence of events (3 or more) that you repeat every day in exactly the same order, in which each gesture has been repeated so many times that it is now reduced to a minimalist expression of perfection ?déjà "vous"¿ Is there a sequence of events (3 or more) that you repeat every day in exactly the same order, in which each gesture has been repeated so many times that it is now reduced to a minimalist expression of perfection ?déjà "vous"¿ Is there a sequence of events (3 or more) that you repeat every day in exactly the same order, in which each gesture has been repeated so many times that it is now reduced to a minimalist expression of perfection ?déjà "vous"

no

madasacutsnake

10-23-2007, 07:16 AM

No. But almost every workday I ask other people to perform a sequence of three actions. Then I give them a score according to how well they perform.

Stephi_B

10-23-2007, 07:17 AM

Zroe you wanna drive Teri-cheri crazy? ;) (no official question, no official question, no, no, no!)

¿ Is there a sequence of events (3 or more) that you repeat every day in exactly the same order, in which each gesture has been repeated so many times that it is now reduced to a minimalist expression of perfection ?

There is a sequence: crawling out of bed (i.e. mattress) - turning on radio - making coffee - searching ciggies/ashtray/lighter - sitting cross-legged in my green armchair (but turned by 90° so I have the ashtray on the armrest in front of me) - having the ritual c&c with music.
Unfortunately the minimalist, perfect flow is too often disturbed by morning-clumsiness-induced spilling of coffee on the way from the kitchen... though if I include that into the sequence... then: yes :)

brightpearl

10-23-2007, 07:19 AM

^oh yes
the coffee-spilling is the wabi-sabi that qualifies it as perfection!

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 07:35 AM

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There is a sequence: crawling out of bed (i.e. mattress) - turning on radio - making coffee - searching ciggies/ashtray/lighter - sitting cross-legged in my green armchair (but turned by 90° so I have the ashtray on the armrest in front of me) - having the ritual c&c with music.
Unfortunately the minimalist, perfect flow is too often disturbed by morning-clumsiness-induced spilling of coffee on the way from the kitchen... though if I include that into the sequence... then: yes :)

"turned by 90° so I have the ashtray on the armrest in front of me" is exactly the perfection i was talking about ;)

Stephi_B

10-23-2007, 07:48 AM

^ & ^^ Mille grazie :) ;)

trisherina

10-23-2007, 09:50 AM

Timing the making of oatmeal and coffee such that they are ready and beep at the EXACT same time that the dog wants back in.

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 10:34 AM

open front door, remove coat and walk three steps, press the computer ON button with, rotate 170° and three steps back to fill a pot with water/turning on the electric stove, go to wash hands in lavatory, come back to type administrative password that is appearing on a prompt screen that has appeared on computer at that exact moment, walk back to refrigerator, remove vegetables,..etc..

[continue this kind of sequence until sleep]

zero

10-23-2007, 12:27 PM

^day in the life of a bot

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 12:59 PM

^ had to settle for arsebook because the turing tests were too difficult on myspace

zero

10-23-2007, 01:04 PM

you nexus, huh? i design your arse...

T.I.P.

10-23-2007, 01:06 PM

Stephi_B

10-24-2007, 08:40 AM

New ¿question of the day? for 10/24/07

¿Are you right, left or both handed? Does any other body part of you behave sort of 'asymmetric'?

Me: right hander, though limited abilities with left hand (inserting & turning a key goes quite well for example), when I'm standing for a longer time, I tend to shift my weight on the right leg and the left fidgets about, otherwise no noticeable asymmetry

eta: shift on the left leg... just tested that... can't keep apart left and right at times... :o

zero

10-24-2007, 09:32 AM

right-handed with left-eyed ness

trisherina

10-24-2007, 09:42 AM

I sweep with a curling broom (not the modern brush they call a broom, a curling broom) left-handed. All other activities prefer to use my right side.

T.I.P.

10-24-2007, 10:00 AM

i am right handed

Someone made me realize that even chewing is polarized (try it, you' ll find you prefer chewing more on one side more than on the other). i prefer the right hand teeth.

lukkucairi

10-24-2007, 11:15 AM

naturally right-handed with ambidextrous tendencies.

incipient carpal-tunnel syndrome in right wrist has led to the development of ambimousetrousness and ambitrackpadness. i also use a tablet.

I chew on the left. use both sides pretty equally timewise, but for different things. right side has better fine motor control. left side has better stability.

auntie aubrey

10-24-2007, 01:01 PM

i'm solidly left-handed. i chew on the left-side, too.

the only activity i can manage with my right hand is using a computer mouse. in fact it's this single instance of asymmetry that results in a total inability to use a tablet. let me see if i can explain...

when i'm using a mouse i have to use my right hand. which means the activity interface is hand-on-mouse-eyes-on-screen. when i'm writing i have to use my left hand which means the activity interface is hand-on-pen-eyes-on-contact-point-with-surface.

a tablet, however, means holding a pen and looking at the screen. i get an absurdly intense confusion between brain and motion when i try to hold a pen and look at a screen. i end up juggling the pen between hands and then eventually abandoning the effort altogether. this means i do even advanced and intricate photoshopping with mouse or touchpad. tablet collects dust.

auntie aubrey

10-24-2007, 01:04 PM

oh yes, i just remembered another anomaly. i've never been able to draw or write with my right hand, even in a basic way. but if i'm talking to someone and i gesture to indicate the action of drawing or writing, i tend to mime the activity with my right hand.

the only way i've been able to explain it is that i'm surrounded by righties 99% of the time (although the spouse is also left-handed). so when i see someone write, and therefore create the association of activity with concept, i see it with a right hand. so when i use a gesture in a "universal language" sort of way to signify that activity, i default to my right hand.

otherwise everything is on the left.

Angry Kid Hoyt

10-24-2007, 01:10 PM

I'm Right-handed.
But I grew up in a left-handed home.
I still have a problem using "normal" scissors

Stephi_B

10-24-2007, 01:16 PM

^Hello Angry Kid Hoyt :)

Someone made me realize that even chewing is polarized (try it, you' ll find you prefer chewing more on one side more than on the other). i prefer the right hand teeth.

Yes, true, tried it on an apple: left side.

Angry Kid Hoyt

10-24-2007, 01:21 PM

Howdy, Stephi_B :D

brightpearl

10-24-2007, 01:43 PM

Avalon

10-24-2007, 04:29 PM

Born a leftie, forced to become right handed by militant teachers in 1st grade. I still do most everything, except write, with my left hand. My dad was a leftie and bemoaned the fact that the world is, indeed ,set up for the right handers; he didn't squawk about the insisted upon change. I am left eye dominant and chew on the left side. Hsb. lost his thumb on his right hand, forcing him become left handed. I supposed that balances things out somehow.....

lukkucairi

10-24-2007, 06:10 PM

wow, I thought they gave up that militant-right-handedness crap in the 19th century :(

dang first grade teachers. I hated mine too.

auntie aubrey

10-24-2007, 06:28 PM

Born a leftie, forced to become right handed by militant teachers in 1st grade.

OFFENSIVE! OUTRAGEOUS! UNACCEPTABLE!

my dad found out recently that he was forced to be a righty. he never knew why he was so ambidextrous until that news hit him.

one of my teachers tried to convince my parents that they should let her strap my left arm down. my mother had a holy fit and rampaged her way through the school administration until they swore no teacher would ever be allowed to hint at such a preposterous suggestion again. unfortunately that meant most teachers wouldn't work with me during writing classes. it usually was "angle your paper like this and draw your letters like this..... oh.... lefties angle it the other way and use your other hand."

thus the infamous lefty wrist curl.

Frieda

10-24-2007, 06:39 PM

hmm.. i'm kind of ambidextrous.. with everything i do with two hands, my left hand is dominant (swabbing floor, sweeping leaves, swinging a baseball bat, etc).. other stuff like writing, stirring, using scissors, mousing, i do with my right hand.

sounds like lukku's story, except for the carpal tunnel :)

Tunesmith

10-24-2007, 06:41 PM

I'm a rightie in everything...writing, chewing, taking stairs, tennis, etc.

But strangely enough, I am a kickass left-handed ping-pong player. :rolleyes:

Jack Flanders

10-24-2007, 07:20 PM

mostly right-handed but have a strong left hand from all the drafting and landscaping. i open jar lids for the hubby with my left hand and can paint and cut in trim using either hand.

Hyakujo's Fox

10-25-2007, 09:58 AM

I use a knife and fork in the "left-hand" manner, but I think that way makes more sense for right handers anyway.

xfox

10-25-2007, 10:25 AM

My right hand never takes my left hand for granted.

lukkucairi

10-25-2007, 11:44 AM

mostly right-handed but have a strong left hand from all the drafting and landscaping. i open jar lids for the hubby with my left hand and can paint and cut in trim using either hand.

I'm a left-handed jar-opener as well, and I will use my left hand to do detail painting if I can't fit my right hand into the space.

I use a knife and fork in the "left-hand" manner, but I think that way makes more sense for right handers anyway.

I was taught to eat with a knife and fork in the "British" manner - fork in left hand, knife in right, not putting down utensils to switch hands like they do in the US. Is this "left-hand" manner?

auntie aubrey

10-25-2007, 11:53 AM

new question of the day.

http://i20.tinypic.com/2hxbrsg.gif
how does this make you feel and do you think this should be an option for all commercially manufactured automobiles?

T.I.P.

10-25-2007, 12:16 PM

yes, it seems like a worthy option

i kinda wish i also had that option as a pedestrian, to deal with drivers who honk their stupid horns at traffic lights :cool:

Angry Kid Hoyt

10-25-2007, 03:21 PM

Yes.
But to smack people on bikes that don't think that they have to follow traffic rules, but get pissy if you don't.

Disclaimer:
I love and admire bicyclists.

madasacutsnake

10-25-2007, 06:09 PM

It makes me feel happy. I need one for my desk at work.

auntie aubrey

10-25-2007, 06:12 PM

you know how it makes me feel? it makes me feel baffled by the way the pedestrians have spaced themselves along the road so that the device has adequate time to reload and redeploy. MOVE 3 INCHES TO THE RIGHT, EVERYONE!

i think it should be an option. but i don't think it should be standard. it should be a rather pricey upgrade. there should be an alternate option where instead of a boxing glove, the device has a fistful of pretty posies.