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Red2 05-05-2007 02:59 AM

Frank
 
Just to let you know right off this Dream Maker is probably the Mopeder from ICQ or the anon that is ripping ICQ apart. I can't prove that but I have my suspecions. This is what he does. Is is probably the person that complained about Duke because he hates Duke.

:: nope - it was folks from this board

Second. I want to say that I am very disappointed. All the users that came here from ICQ came here because I pointed them in this direction. I did this because I watched this board for a while and thought it was a good place to come where we would be welcomed not censored.

:: that was your mistake. i will certainly censor if it comes down to it. you seem to think free speech means you have the right to capitalize on other people's publishing platforms. not true. you can't write whatever you want in the NYTimes Op Ed (that's a newspaper) or the classified section for that matter. you can however say whatever you want in a forum that you control. that's what i suggest you do...maybe call it "everyone's a ***** except for me".

I understand that you want to keep your board a civil place for your users to come. That is what we wanted as well. But to ban people because they have strong opinions is just wrong.

:: i don't think so. the loonies shout the loudest. can't wait for the racists to show up!

Not only did you ban Duke because he was posting more than you felt he should, you closed an entire forum (CE) off to all users including your regulars. Is that fair to them? No. Why ban someone for having an opinion when they offend someone when there is an ignore function available.

:: because casual users/ guests see everything...think of a ban as a universal ignore function and you might feel better.

You banned duke because some complained about him. Well Why didnt you just suggest to them that they put him on ignore? What about all the other people that wanted to read his threads. That wanted to debate with him? Im not just talking about the new comers here I am also talking about the regulars here. I am sure there are some that would like to talk to Duke and debate with him. you banned a man that speaks his mind. He can be colorful at times but he is a good man with a good heart. I was wrong about this board.

:: yes you were.

To all those nice people I have met here thanks for having us and sorry we cant stay but I for one will not stay at a place that will ban me for using freedom of speech. The fact of the matter is Frank can't handle us or the truth.

:: right....i can't handle the truth. i saw that movie. that guy was crazy too.

apparently not only do sticks and stone hurt him but words do as well.

:: of course they do. but yours don't.

you guys have a great time. I am sure this board will return to it previous dull self within a few days. Take care all. BTW Frank you can Ban me now. and I know you will be deleting this thread so that no one can see it. Thats your right. :o

:: no problem - i see that you are organizing a "let's get banned from the zefrank forum day" on ICQ. let me help you with that.

priceyfatprude 05-05-2007 03:11 AM

http://www.forumforfree.com

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Brynn 05-05-2007 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red2 (Post 342105)
Just to let you know right off this Dream Maker is probably the Mopeder from ICQ or the blah blah why ban someone for blah blah blah they offend someone blah blah blah duke blah blah blah some complained blah blah Why didnt you just suggest to them What about all the other people blah blah blah Im not just talking about the blah blah blah I am sure blah blah blah you banned a man that blah blah blah He can be blah blah blah but he is blah blah blah The fact of the matter is blah blah blah sticks and stone I am sure blah blah blah Ban me blah blah blah and I know blah blah ginger. :o


nowhereman 05-05-2007 03:25 AM

LoL
 
Well said Red. Way to go!!!

Ya know, if I knew I was walking into a massage parlor I would have ran as fast I could the other direction. I'd say some just have over inflated opinions of themselves. Time to move onward and upward. rotflmao :D

:: massage parlor...circle jerk, massage parlor...circle jerk. hmmm...i'll stick with massage.

Red2 05-05-2007 03:26 AM

Brynn
 
Nice:D

Red2 05-05-2007 03:26 AM

Nowhereman
 
I totally agree :D

Brynn 05-05-2007 03:32 AM


kjh62 05-05-2007 03:45 AM

Yeah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nowhereman (Post 342111)
Well said Red. Way to go!!!

I'd say some just have over inflated opinions of themselves. :D

You are certainly one of them, ya big dork.

Well, it's been fun, all. Sorry if we upset the delicate balance of your board. I guess that's what happens when two groups of crazy people meet head on.

P.S. There's nothing I find funnier than a bunny with a pancake on his head. Ok, maybe a bunny sitting on a pancake. I'll have to sleep on that one.

Red2 05-05-2007 03:48 AM

Kent
 
Hey there Mr. Sorry it isnt working out here for us. and sorry to the entire board for upsetting you.

kjh62 05-05-2007 03:54 AM

Red
 
I'm not upset. I was just having a little fun with all this foolishness. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Night!

Red2 05-05-2007 03:55 AM

Kent
 
No I didn't think you were upset I just wanted to tell you im sorry. thats all Sweetie.

kjh62 05-05-2007 04:04 AM

Red
 
No need to be sorry. It's just a message board; pretty much meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Later! : )

Red2 05-05-2007 04:08 AM

Kent
 
Night ol Pal. see ya on the flip side. :D

zefrank 05-05-2007 08:10 AM

http://icq.com/boards/view_messages....pic_id=2180075

bunch of trolls.

Anna 05-05-2007 08:26 AM


Veruki 05-05-2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anna (Post 342146)

Are those little goats frolicking??:D I feel warm and fuzzy now:) .

Robin 05-05-2007 10:48 AM

Here's your dream maker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red2 (Post 342105)
Just to let you know right off this Dream Maker is probably the Mopeder from ICQ or the anon that is ripping ICQ apart. I can't prove that but I have my suspecions. This is what he does. Is is probably the person that complained about Duke because he hates Duke.

:: nope - it was folks from this board

Second. I want to say that I am very disappointed. All the users that came here from ICQ came here because I pointed them in this direction. I did this because I watched this board for a while and thought it was a good place to come where we would be welcomed not censored.

:: that was your mistake. i will certainly censor if it comes down to it. you seem to think free speech means you have the right to capitalize on other people's publishing platforms. not true. you can't write whatever you want in the NYTimes Op Ed (that's a newspaper) or the classified section for that matter. you can however say whatever you want in a forum that you control. that's what i suggest you do...maybe call it "everyone's a ***** except for me".

I understand that you want to keep your board a civil place for your users to come. That is what we wanted as well. But to ban people because they have strong opinions is just wrong.

:: i don't think so. the loonies shout the loudest. can't wait for the racists to show up!

Not only did you ban Duke because he was posting more than you felt he should, you closed an entire forum (CE) off to all users including your regulars. Is that fair to them? No. Why ban someone for having an opinion when they offend someone when there is an ignore function available.

:: because casual users/ guests see everything...think of a ban as a universal ignore function and you might feel better.

You banned duke because some complained about him. Well Why didnt you just suggest to them that they put him on ignore? What about all the other people that wanted to read his threads. That wanted to debate with him? Im not just talking about the new comers here I am also talking about the regulars here. I am sure there are some that would like to talk to Duke and debate with him. you banned a man that speaks his mind. He can be colorful at times but he is a good man with a good heart. I was wrong about this board.

:: yes you were.

To all those nice people I have met here thanks for having us and sorry we cant stay but I for one will not stay at a place that will ban me for using freedom of speech. The fact of the matter is Frank can't handle us or the truth.

:: right....i can't handle the truth. i saw that movie. that guy was crazy too.

apparently not only do sticks and stone hurt him but words do as well.

:: of course they do. but yours don't.

you guys have a great time. I am sure this board will return to it previous dull self within a few days. Take care all. BTW Frank you can Ban me now. and I know you will be deleting this thread so that no one can see it. Thats your right. :o

:: no problem - i see that you are organizing a "let's get banned from the zefrank forum day" on ICQ. let me help you with that.


here's dream maker as anon on ICQ, a stalker and a felon.

Hope you enjoy IT'S company over here in the land of milk and honey.
Thanks for the "warm" welcome.

Robin

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Anonymous

sure made asses of yourselves here the past few days. you fukin assholes are the laughing stock of Current Events , not to mention ZFRANK voard that you all tried to ruin. jackoffs

Bickering 05-05-2007 02:44 PM

????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zefrank (Post 342143)

Ahem. I am hardly a 'troll'. I believe each individual needs to be judged on their own merits. Respect is earned, not demanded - that is a two way street. Or is this a one way? (I didn't see any signs!) LOL

I joined on the premise that this was a great forum. What the heck is going on? People coming and going...cripes!!!!!

So much for discussion.:confused:

craig johnston 05-05-2007 02:50 PM

they came, they bored, they were bonkers.

don't worry about it.

:)

nowhereman 05-05-2007 02:53 PM

Bick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bickering (Post 342238)
Ahem. I am hardly a 'troll'. I believe each individual needs to be judged on their own merits. Respect is earned, not demanded - that is a two way street. Or is this a one way? (I didn't see any signs!) LOL

I joined on the premise that this was a great forum. What the heck is going on? People coming and going...cripes!!!!!

So much for discussion.:confused:

In my opinion this placed showed it's true colors when it banned Duke right out the gates, no warning, nothing. To be honest, this place couldn't handle Duke if they tried. I would include myself in that category. They are a very closed minded bunch with all similar views and opinions. Anything they disagree with gets tossed out. Bottom line, many of us are moving on to greener pastures.

lostsadie 05-05-2007 03:32 PM

Did someone insinuate that their are bigots here?

Quote:

Dictionary.com
Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French King Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. ...
Goats eat troll's feet, bi got

Goats don't kiss them

Cause goats have more in common with God

So...if not kissing someone's feet makes me a bigot, well um I'll take that

:rolleyes:

Avalon 05-05-2007 03:34 PM

Quote:

Bottom line, many of us are moving on to greener pastures


Well, then this is goodbye. I hate long goodbyes. Please don't drag it out...just go and don't look back.


AngelofGOD 05-05-2007 04:03 PM

Today is a very sad day for me. My worst fear has been realized. An Angel has taken up position in your country.
I have word today. Been to Florida lately. Been to Alaska lately, and soon the rivers. Soon Airborne. if not already.

You will go to war America with a foreign country and your new president will change his mind about the danger and recall the troops.

You will die in the streets. You're been handed over.

His there still hope for you America. I have been given a place of refuge. I'm been given a place to stay outside of this country.
I thought that all of this would not take place until after the election but it has begun already.

If there is still hope, you must resue as many sea mammals as possible. You must build a special ship, with separate quarters for each sea mammals, the men who will fight the war must not be on the same ship with the sea mammals for they will all die before they have even seen the country that they will fight.

Birds are flying out of the sky by the thousands,and Many sea mammals are dieing in Florida. Soon many will die by drinking the water.

The way is been cut and left open for the enemy.
America pray for your country for an angel has taken up position in you. I have seen the child that will come into this world.

The time is near.

I do not know how soon I will leave this country but at the first talk of war I will leave the country for it is not you America that will see victory it is your enemies for you have been handed over to the enemy.

Where ever that I am I will mourn you America.
God has taken care of the birds and the Sea mammals for centuries now even the birds and Sea mammals are been spared the terrible fate that will come to you.

They are been taken out first for what will come to you America is so terrible that even the birds and sea mammals are spared.
Why have you refused to repent America?
Why have you forgotten the ways of your forefathers?.
Why do you laugh and carry on as if you do not see danger?
America repent and do what is right.

One day God the Father took me up to heaven and gave me eyes and ears like he has.
It was like the eyes of an eagle that can see its prey from many miles away.
I saw all the people in the earth, walking driving eating etc, even zero in on certain people.
I could hear the people talking in their day to day lives.
I saw people also that indulge in evil behind close door.
God the Father said to me " I see and hear all these things and I wait for the people to change and how long shall I wait?. I broke down crying and I said Lord it is because they have no one to lead them, but if you where to send someone to lead them then it would have been different.

God has given you America someone to lead you and you have reject him.

An Angel has taken up position in you America and it will go worse for you than it will for your enemy.
God the Father told you he is a jealous God, have you forgotten what a jealous lover is capable of.

It is so bad for you America that I have been sent away from this country, My eyes will not see the terror that is to come.
I have lived here along time and I have come to love this country so much and many of the people here. There are tears in my eyes for I know there isn't much to be done. If only the things that I see wasn't true.

Saved as many Sea mammals has possible, you will need them to fight the war coming to you.
Bring the troops closer to home or as close together as possible. Your army is space out too much.
WHAT EVER YOU DO; DO NOT PLACE THE SEA MAMMALS ON THE SAME SHIP WITH THE MEN WHO WILL FIGHT THE WAR.

Avalon 05-05-2007 04:07 PM

I have always loved that post^^^^^^^^^^

remember..god is a manatee!

Tunesmith 05-05-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nowhereman (Post 342242)
They are a very closed minded bunch with all similar views and opinions. Anything they disagree with gets tossed out. Bottom line, many of us are moving on to greener pastures.

Perhaps I can redirect you to the DEBATE forum.

If you read the various threads, you'll not only realize that we have multifaceted viewpoints, but that nothing has been censored.

We may be a smaller community, but just because we don't have the thousands of people visiting ICQ every day, including your "Moped" spammer, does not mean that we're bigots. Please reserve the use of this term for the situations in which it actually applies, and not in those in which you are angry about your rejection, as unfortunate as it may be.

I wish you guys luck in your search for a forum. ;)

Tunesmith 05-05-2007 04:21 PM

Methinks the above toaster (not YOU, Avalon) is either high or seriously misinformed.

greywolf 05-05-2007 04:26 PM

How does one unregister?
 
Since it's quite obvious that the regular membership of this forum has passed their negative judgement on those of us who came from the ICQ current events board, please post instructions on how to unregister.

Personally, I see no reason to remain where I am unwanted, whatever the reason, so I'd like to unregister from this forum.

Have a nice life and a nice forum.

zenbabe 05-05-2007 04:33 PM

Just go away. That is all you have to do.

Tunesmith 05-05-2007 04:38 PM

greywolf, I don't think there's any way to.

If you feel strongly about it, you might want to contact ze and ask to have your account deleted from the Members List.

No offense, but I personally feel that after 4 posts, you can't really have an understanding of what the tone of the forum.

And I may just be quoting old posts, but it's not you or your friends that are unwanted. Nobody is, in fact. Unless their actions don't comply with the regulations that Ze has laid down.

Feel free to leave, but I don't believe there has ever been a previous problem with posters, besides spammers and (unfunny) assholes.

Appréciez ta vie, aussi, mon (ma?) ami(e?)! :)

Btw, no connection to the gaming clan "Grey Wolves", right?

trisherina 05-05-2007 04:40 PM

A generally-accepted, readily available, sure-fire, and easy way to leave the forum (if you feel you must) is to stop posting in it. All will be forgotten in a matter of days, if not minutes.

Those of you who really enjoy debating current events and politics and policy and whatnot might enjoy The Straight Dope Message Board, another vbulletin. They have a subforum called Great Debates where you'll get your ass handed to you in short order hearty rhetoric is the order of the day.

Brynn 05-05-2007 04:42 PM

i'm not a n00b anymore, but I'm not an old-timer, either. I've made some observations that you can take or leave.

the reasonable n00b's who want to play nice are pretty easy to spot, and you know who you are. so be patient - unfortunately the nice ones walked into the room at the same time as the others, so just have fun, and please don't feed the trolls. As long as you're intelligent, civil, and don't whine, you'll do fine, and everything will sort itself out.:)

other tiny princess suggestions for endearing oneself as a n00b:

1. Read the previous posts in a thread to get the gist. If it's image association, for instance, post images, not chatter.

2. Read the rules of the thread. If you break the rules, it had better be pretty funny. If you don't understand the rules of "Ask a question, give an answer" or don't know how to embed a youtube video, then pm me or - gee, just about anybody. I'm very nice and I don't bite.:)

3. Good manners are never a bad way to go. If your mother never taught you any, then this is a good place to learn some. Then you can take your new-found knowledge somewhere else and be glad you're not the president of some country.

4.Before starting a new thread and pushing a popular one to page two (so annoying!) try posting in existing threads. The archives are so huge and rich, you'll probably find an identical subject that just needs bumping if you do a little research.

5. Ze is the god of the internet as far as we're concerned, and we're here because of his awesomeness and generosity. Go ahead and keep calling him "Frank" - please. So much easier than branding you on the forehead...

6. The H.A.T.E. rule comes in handy - never post when you are
High, Angry,Tired or - I can't remember the last one - Emotional? That's redundant with Angry, isn't it??????????? Drunken posting is sooo amusing, however. So is posting when you're high, but - okay let's just forget - did you say something? wait. what is everyone takling about. wer did everybodyu go?

7. Cut everybody a giant break before you decide to get offended. You don't know everyone's story. I sure don't. Everybody can sound like an asshole at one point or another - it's text. Read back posts before you decide you know where someone is coming from. Maybe somebody's dog just died - cut them some slack.Breathe.
Assume the best and be pleasant and just confirm your doubts in a pm or something. In fact, take all your feuds to PM and don't make the whole board read it. It's really unpleasant,and interrupts the flow of funkaliciousness and fun-having.

8. Current Events is not Debate Hall, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. I've always thought of it as a the water fountain to go catch up on what's new and to read some observations. At least, I used to. What I saw there yesterday for the first time was like watching a smelly, angry gorilla burst into someone's nice Canadian living room and start randomly spraying his scent on the doilies. If the forum ever comes back you will generally find that ugly name-calling and casting personal aspersions does not qualify as debate, and no one knows what to do with you. You may indeed have a good heart. All I can say is it's too bad that someone has to tell us that, because at that point it's probably too late.

9. I don't want to buy your cheap crappy t-shirts from cafepress. I sell stuff to make extra money too, but I don't cram it down people's throats on this board. I don't care how nice you are. It's really tacky. Would you bring Amway catalogs to a party? Wait, Amway people are a bad example...



Just IMHO. Suggestions only. Writing this made me cranky, so sorry about the tone. Time to go smoke some more crack...
...ahhhhhhhhhhh.

zenbabe 05-05-2007 04:49 PM

^^^ don't you mean hat?

Earthling 05-05-2007 04:51 PM

Greywolf
 
Look, I think you're a very intelligent guy, with great knowledge of mans history, and the politics around the world.

I also know, that you do alot of research and get involved in discussion of world events. Unregistering is like cutting off your own nose to spite your face. You should consider this as just another avenue of expression on the net. Duke is already speaking of returning once his ban is lifted, and perhaps finding a better niche here.

You, like I, have never tried to be a member of the 'gang' from ICQ. Don't limit yourself now.
*I might even debate ya' once or twice~keep dreaming:rolleyes: *

Tunesmith 05-05-2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brynn (Post 342274)
6. The H.A.T.E. rule comes in handy - never post when you are
High, Angry,Tired or - I can't remember the last one - Emotional? That's redundant with Angry, isn't it??????????? Drunken posting is sooo amusing, however. So is posting when you're high, but - okay let's just forget - did you say something? wait. what is everyone takling about. wer did everybodyu go?


Just IMHO. Suggestions only. Writing this made me cranky, so sorry about the tone. Time to go smoke some more crack...
...ahhhhhhhhhhh.

Now you DEFiNITELY, shouldn't post, Brynn! :D

Btw, do we ever actually get any drunk posting? Or is it just a bunch of us *stumbling* around in the Pub Thread pretending to be inebriated?

Hey, either way it's funny! :p

But seriously, great post. Kudos to you.

trisherina 05-05-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunesmith (Post 342279)
Btw, do we ever actually get any drunk posting? Or is it just a bunch of us *stumbling* around in the Pub Thread pretending to be inebriated?

Occasionally, some drunk posting goes on.
:p

Tunesmith 05-05-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trisherina (Post 342282)
Occasionally, some drunk posting goes on.
:p

That's beautiful. :D

Ze, you should've done a drunk version of The Show.

nowhereman 05-05-2007 05:09 PM

Greywolf
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Earthling (Post 342278)
You, like I, have never tried to be a member of the 'gang' from ICQ. Don't limit yourself now.

This coming from the same person that said that you know who could be reasoned with. Just lots of double speak from Bug man.

Brynn 05-05-2007 05:12 PM

and you there, mr. looneytunes :p - sit up straight, don't slouch

Tunesmith 05-05-2007 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nowhereman (Post 342288)
This coming from the same person that said that you know who could be reasoned with. Just lots of double speak from Bug man.

Ooh! Ooh! Orwellian references! :D

...Brynn? How did you...can you see...are you in my mind?! :eek:

lostsadie 05-05-2007 05:49 PM

^^^^your avatars are similar could be you two are twins
:D


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