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trisherina · 12-15-2004, 06:07 AM

This morning when I woke up one of my eyes was glued shut. Oh, wonderful, conjunctivitis, I thought, and after ungluing it was surprised to find that it wasn't all that swollen and there is no photophobia. Then the GI symptoms kicked in.

So, since we were already one short at the program, off I went to work, half loaded on codeine. Instead of going home later like any sane person, I hung out because we were having a Christmas party for the patients that I felt somewhat responsible to be present for. The febrile-type symptoms really started up around 11 AM, and persisted until well after I went home (didn't leave 'til 4:30) and spent the evening in a coma.

Now both eyes are draining discharge and I still have a temp well over 38, still feel like death. GI symptoms are quiescent, but after this morning I have wisely eaten nothing beyond water, a cookie, half a banana, and some hot lemon relief.

My question is, would you say it's viral or bacterial? A peer figured viral this AM... so I didn't get any antibiotics.

madasacutsnake · 12-15-2004, 06:09 AM

You're the doctor ferfuxsake.

Large Marge · 12-15-2004, 06:10 AM

Viral, for sure.

But if you see any puss or have excessive unexpelled snot for more than 7 days, get some antibiotics.

We humans are disgusting, aren't we?

madasacutsnake · 12-15-2004, 06:11 AM

Eyes and gastro. I think it's that thing you get from eating under cooked pork. Q fever??

madasacutsnake · 12-15-2004, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Large Marge
Viral, for sure.

But if you see any puss or have excessive unexpelled snot for more than 7 days, get some antibiotics.

If you're seeing any puss, Zen will want to see too.

madasacutsnake · 12-15-2004, 06:13 AM

Trichinosis.

sparticle · 12-15-2004, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Large Marge
Viral, for sure.

But if you see any puss or have excessive unexpelled snot for more than 7 days, get some antibiotics.

We humans are disgusting, aren't we?

What she said.

I had flu last year and stubborned it out. "It's viral," I kept telling everyone. "Antibiotics are useless."

What I wasn't counting on were the secondary bacterial infections of the sinuses. I suffered for two weeks, finally broke down and saw the docs, got antibios and was better in two days.

So, what Marge said. If it seems to be hanging around longer than a week, try antibiotics.

sparticle · 12-15-2004, 06:16 AM

p.s. get better soon.

trisherina · 12-15-2004, 06:16 AM

Not freaking trichinosis!

madasacutsnake · 12-15-2004, 06:17 AM

I reckon Dengue gives you sore eyes too.

trisherina · 12-15-2004, 06:20 AM

And I am sorry, but I am supposed to be on skis at Marmot basin in a week. I have exactly one more day that I can drag my ass around. Then I need to be better.

I thought viral too, but the eyes could be bacterial, in which case I am a real dipshit for not sucking up some antibiotics.

Years of admin in psychiatry have ill prepared me for TRICHINOSIS!

madasacutsnake · 12-15-2004, 06:49 AM

In either case, unless you have mitigating circumstances, a course of anti-biotics would not hurt.

Let us all remember that there are people in the world who don't have any snow at all. I would chug ampicillin for that. And me + sulfur = adrenaline. To quote "nuff said".

Large Marge · 12-15-2004, 06:55 AM

I beg to differ.

Overuse or misuse of antibiotics hurts ALL OF US, because those nasty little bacteria learn very quickly how to mutate to avoid antibiotics, and the more we take antibiotics, the better they become at mutating.

There are already plenty of icky things out there we have no antibiotics for. Let's not increase them.

trisherina · 12-15-2004, 07:02 AM

Don't worry, I am appropriately in tune with "Do bugs need drugs?" However, there comes a point where you're only being dim by denying yourself antibiotic treatment to a bacterially-created infection. Smartest thing to do would be to swab the eyes and find out for sure, but I'd likely get the results back much faster if I went to my vet.

Zaftig · 12-15-2004, 07:04 AM

Well when y'all are done trying to figure out Trish's freak problem I might throw something out there for all you health people to figure out. My nurse practitioner can't figure it out and she doesn't even know who to send me to. *shrugs*

I gave my mediocre, off landish advice to Trish already so I won't make an ass of myself out in the open. . . although that isn't hard.

12-15-2004, 06:07 AM	#1
trisherina meretricious dilettante Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,068	viral or bacterial? This morning when I woke up one of my eyes was glued shut. Oh, wonderful, conjunctivitis, I thought, and after ungluing it was surprised to find that it wasn't all that swollen and there is no photophobia. Then the GI symptoms kicked in. So, since we were already one short at the program, off I went to work, half loaded on codeine. Instead of going home later like any sane person, I hung out because we were having a Christmas party for the patients that I felt somewhat responsible to be present for. The febrile-type symptoms really started up around 11 AM, and persisted until well after I went home (didn't leave 'til 4:30) and spent the evening in a coma. Now both eyes are draining discharge and I still have a temp well over 38, still feel like death. GI symptoms are quiescent, but after this morning I have wisely eaten nothing beyond water, a cookie, half a banana, and some hot lemon relief. My question is, would you say it's viral or bacterial? A peer figured viral this AM... so I didn't get any antibiotics. __________________ Because how we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives. -- Annie Dillard

12-15-2004, 06:09 AM	#2
madasacutsnake no more nice girl Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,054	You're the doctor ferfuxsake. __________________ He really shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.

12-15-2004, 06:10 AM	#3
Large Marge monkey Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The middle Posts: 2,284	Viral, for sure. But if you see any puss or have excessive unexpelled snot for more than 7 days, get some antibiotics. We humans are disgusting, aren't we? __________________ Truth serves only a world that lives by it.

12-15-2004, 06:11 AM	#4
madasacutsnake no more nice girl Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,054	Eyes and gastro. I think it's that thing you get from eating under cooked pork. Q fever?? __________________ He really shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.

12-15-2004, 06:13 AM	#6
madasacutsnake no more nice girl Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,054	Trichinosis. __________________ He really shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.

12-15-2004, 06:16 AM	#8
sparticle Conspiracy Theorist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cleveland, oh Posts: 4,702	p.s. get better soon. __________________ There are few situations in life which wind up with you saying to yourself: "Gee, I wish I'd had worse manners there." -- trisherina

12-15-2004, 06:16 AM	#9
trisherina meretricious dilettante Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,068	Not freaking trichinosis! __________________ Because how we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives. -- Annie Dillard

12-15-2004, 06:17 AM	#10
madasacutsnake no more nice girl Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,054	I reckon Dengue gives you sore eyes too. __________________ He really shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.

12-15-2004, 06:20 AM	#11
trisherina meretricious dilettante Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,068	And I am sorry, but I am supposed to be on skis at Marmot basin in a week. I have exactly one more day that I can drag my ass around. Then I need to be better. I thought viral too, but the eyes could be bacterial, in which case I am a real dipshit for not sucking up some antibiotics. Years of admin in psychiatry have ill prepared me for TRICHINOSIS! __________________ Because how we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives. -- Annie Dillard

12-15-2004, 06:49 AM	#12
madasacutsnake no more nice girl Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,054	In either case, unless you have mitigating circumstances, a course of anti-biotics would not hurt. Let us all remember that there are people in the world who don't have any snow at all. I would chug ampicillin for that. And me + sulfur = adrenaline. To quote "nuff said". __________________ He really shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.

12-15-2004, 06:55 AM	#13
Large Marge monkey Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The middle Posts: 2,284	I beg to differ. Overuse or misuse of antibiotics hurts ALL OF US, because those nasty little bacteria learn very quickly how to mutate to avoid antibiotics, and the more we take antibiotics, the better they become at mutating. There are already plenty of icky things out there we have no antibiotics for. Let's not increase them. __________________ Truth serves only a world that lives by it.

12-15-2004, 07:02 AM	#14
trisherina meretricious dilettante Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,068	Don't worry, I am appropriately in tune with "Do bugs need drugs?" However, there comes a point where you're only being dim by denying yourself antibiotic treatment to a bacterially-created infection. Smartest thing to do would be to swab the eyes and find out for sure, but I'd likely get the results back much faster if I went to my vet. __________________ Because how we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives. -- Annie Dillard

12-15-2004, 07:04 AM	#15
Zaftig monkey Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 1,951	Well when y'all are done trying to figure out Trish's freak problem I might throw something out there for all you health people to figure out. My nurse practitioner can't figure it out and she doesn't even know who to send me to. shrugs I gave my mediocre, off landish advice to Trish already so I won't make an ass of myself out in the open. . . although that isn't hard. __________________ Build a bridge and get over it.

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