is fascism sexy? - ZEFRANK.COM

craig johnston · 08-30-2005, 10:57 AM

this topic has arisen in another thread and i thought it might be worth discussing.
there seems to be quite a lot of people in the world who find dressing up like a nazi sexy.
is this ok? is it an insult to the victims of the holocaust? where do you draw the line? is it acceptable to put constraints on human fantasies?
it has to be admitted that many (all?) people have sadistic/masochistic tendencies. how far should we be able to live them out?
that sort of thing......

Hyakujo's Fox · 08-30-2005, 11:14 AM

Everyone loves a Hugo Boss.

craig johnston · 08-30-2005, 11:16 AM

is that rhyming slang?

like j.arthur rank?

Hyakujo's Fox · 08-30-2005, 11:23 AM

It may well be.

lapietra · 08-30-2005, 03:57 PM

Some people are just attracted to the repulsive and/or offensive and/or dangerous. Whether one finds something like that "sexy" is pretty subjective.

I'm of the school of thought that says as long as what other people do doesn't affect me adversely, I'm all for it. Simply seeing someone dressed up in Nazi clothing - well, it depends on the context. To glorify something that caused millions of deaths, millions of lives to be near ruined if not completely ruined - that's pretty sick. I don't think people should be allowed to do anything that would resemble celebrating such a belief system.

Max Headroom · 08-30-2005, 04:27 PM

George Lucas shamelessly used nazi imagery in his starwars movies. More-so in the original three. Some of the sceens contain direct references to nazi propaganda film. (see "Triumph of will")

For futher reading and thought

Not to mention a lot of the costuming has a very nazi tone to it. That being said, no one really ever made a stink about it.

I don't see this as being a cut and dry issue... Obviously dressing up like an SS officer and parading around with a swastika on your arm is not too cool... a form fitted leather jacket and funny hat... more questionable..

08-30-2005, 10:57 AM	#1
craig johnston dalai clique Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: tea leaf towers - home of fine musical entertainment Posts: 5,609	is fascism sexy? this topic has arisen in another thread and i thought it might be worth discussing. there seems to be quite a lot of people in the world who find dressing up like a nazi sexy. is this ok? is it an insult to the victims of the holocaust? where do you draw the line? is it acceptable to put constraints on human fantasies? it has to be admitted that many (all?) people have sadistic/masochistic tendencies. how far should we be able to live them out? that sort of thing...... __________________ the tea leaf family

08-30-2005, 11:16 AM	#3
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08-30-2005, 03:57 PM	#5
lapietra half baked Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: just ducky Posts: 12,078	Some people are just attracted to the repulsive and/or offensive and/or dangerous. Whether one finds something like that "sexy" is pretty subjective. I'm of the school of thought that says as long as what other people do doesn't affect me adversely, I'm all for it. Simply seeing someone dressed up in Nazi clothing - well, it depends on the context. To glorify something that caused millions of deaths, millions of lives to be near ruined if not completely ruined - that's pretty sick. I don't think people should be allowed to do anything that would resemble celebrating such a belief system. __________________ “As long as the world is turning and spinning, we're gonna be dizzy and we're gonna make mistakes.” ~ Mel Brooks

08-30-2005, 04:27 PM	#6
Max Headroom monkey Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 20 minutes in the future Posts: 1,098	George Lucas shamelessly used nazi imagery in his starwars movies. More-so in the original three. Some of the sceens contain direct references to nazi propaganda film. (see "Triumph of will") For futher reading and thought Not to mention a lot of the costuming has a very nazi tone to it. That being said, no one really ever made a stink about it. I don't see this as being a cut and dry issue... Obviously dressing up like an SS officer and parading around with a swastika on your arm is not too cool... a form fitted leather jacket and funny hat... more questionable.. __________________ Art takes something ugly and over time makes it beautiful, Fashion takes something beautiful and over time makes it ugly.

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08-30-2005, 11:14 AM	#2
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08-30-2005, 11:23 AM	#4
Hyakujo's Fox left hanging Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream Posts: 10,071	It may well be.