You know they're growing up when...

[bealeblues]

i would give a dollar to watch the bink and lil'beale interact for an hour. i bet they'd end up running off together right then and there....

[sparticle]

Originally posted by madasacutsnake
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Shut up Mags.



K and K to a tee.




Not that I have the same access to american TV that you do, but outside of Marge Simpson, I can't think of a good example. Roseanne was the anti-mom (do you remember the episode where they had the rater on the television and she made every-one watch documentaries for three weeks, just to fvck with their statistics?).

I must say though, that the few american shows that slip through the Subversive Sensor are usually right on the nail and hammering it home. The Simpsons, King of the Hill.....social and political humour at it's best.

Absolutely. And Roseanne ruled. It's just that currently, there isn't a non-cartoon example of real, incisive comedy based on American home life as it is and not either as they wish it would be or as they want us to believe it is. The moms are either clever and allotted the occasional wisecrack but traditionally feminine, or they are like K and K but not intended to be funny. The only "smart" female characters in most of the sitcoms are unmarried career women.

And though IRL here there are a lot of sellout Mommies with their minivans and their velour jogging suits and their Pepsi Lite and their low-tar ciggies ("It's low in tar -- it can't hurt you -- the government regulates these things...they keep us safe") and their "Pray For..." magnetic ribbons stuck all over their vehicles, there are also a lot of us out here who were hijacked by biology or circumstance or both, intelligent, independent, spirited women out here waiting for that twenty-year shift to end so we can go back to defining ourselves as human beings.

Our American popular culture does not currently recognize that a married woman with children can be an intelligent, independent individual. Oh, they may recognize it nominally, but they sure as hell don't encourage that kind of thinking.

Maybe I can start an underground movement. Wonder who we can take hostage until our demands for two hours' reading time each day are met...

[Magpie]

Originally posted by sparticle
And though IRL here there are a lot of sellout Mommies with their minivans and their velour jogging suits

Heyyy hey now... I am WEARING a velour jogging suit (it's black does that still count?) AND I have a mini van... omg I'm so depressed.

[sparticle]

Originally posted by Magpie
Heyyy hey now... I am WEARING a velour jogging suit (it's black does that still count?) AND I have a mini van... omg I'm so depressed.

Yeah, but you're YOU. You're not one of THEM. Having a mini-van and BEING the mini-van are two different things, Grasshopper.

[Spicy Jack]

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[Zaftig]

You know you're getting old when you can empathize with Desperate Housewives.

[sparticle]

Originally posted by Spicy Jack
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Use fishing line, then.

[Aphrodite]

Originally posted by Spicy Jack
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Or tooth floss will work.