Guess I Won't Have Mama Moonbat to Kick Around Anymore

[Brynn]

Cindy Sheehan is a mother grieving the still recent loss of her son. I don't care what kind of ass anyone makes of themselves in the course of that unbearable, nightmarish transition. Have some compassion, for Christ's sake. It's obvious you no nothing of that kind of loss.
The war in Iraq is a disaster on every possible level. There is no way around that. At least she's been a courageous voice for what should be painfully obvious to all. I haven't followed her actions in the last year, and I don't care. She gets a free ride in my book, and speaks for many voiceless families coping with loss.

And, blow me down, but I actually agree completely with Duke about Chavez, much as I hate to admit that i'm actually reading these rantings. My best friend, a venuzuelan, confirms all.

[House,M.D.]

And, blow me down, but I actually agree completely with Duke about Chavez, much as I hate to admit that i'm actually reading these rantings. My best friend, a venuzuelan, confirms all.

I wouldn't worry about him being right. You post enough, you're bound to get lucky once in a while. This was his once.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by House,M.D.

I wouldn't worry about him being right. You post enough, you're bound to get lucky once in a while. This was his once.

I'm sure you will find that I have posted too many spot on threads in the past ....not only here but elsewhere....it's just how you look at it ...and where you find them

I don't play word games Doc ,but there is this undeniable thing called the truth and for most it is painful indeed .

as I have always intended ......because "Denial" is not a river down in South America.

May I suggest that you prescribe more aspirin for your patients who can't handle the headpains from the sudden return to reality .....

and naturally , the Horse pills will do just fine for the ever flapping disbelieving moonbats who want nothing more than shoot the messenger, and dominate free speech.

Luck ? Nah , It's just research pal !


H

[The Duke]

It comes to a point where one is beyond making an ass of themselves , and they begin to cast ridiculous aspersions upon others , such as Ms. Sheehan has done in the past .

My heart goes out to the military families who have lost their loved ones , These are the same love ones that have been called terrorists and wholly equivocated as criminals by Ms Sheehan .


Cindy Sheehan was a Pawn in a cruel game of Leftwing propaganda , maybe she just realized it recently , and has seen the toll it has taken on her as a limited person.

I'm sorry but I can't pity any stupid person who allows themselves to be taken in and used by the unscrupulous leftist agents of anarchy.

I do have much apathy for Cindy though ....I think she learned her lesson ..better late than never. Maybe she will find the real truth one day ...but that is of no consequence because despite everything she attempted , she achieved absolutely nothing .

I desire more than ever to stop all the wars , and my scope is to disclose the real war behind this war on terror, the islamofacist jihadist war that is being waged against you and I and everyone who may not be Islamic this very minute .

Of course you don't have to believe me about this , just pick up a copy of the Quran , any Quran and start reading the Suras 2 through 9 and know that if you don't submit to Islam you will be deemed an infidel and will eventually suffer under their sword .

this is the war they believe in , not the war I believe in ...I don't even believe in fighting a war to begin with .

I totally believe in preservation of humanity.

Because of this I also don't believe in being nothing more than the sacrificial goat awaiting to be slaughtered by religious fanatics who's religious values encompass total hatred , immoral carnage ,and discrimination toward ALL non believers.

Do you believe in Alah Brynn , Do you believe in Muhammed and Islam ?

You should know by now that I don't even subscribe to any religion whatsoever , I go by what my eyes see ....

I see Christians and Jews everyday saying " I will Die for my Beliefs " which is perfectly okay with me as long as they don't plan on taking any innocent people with them .

and I see Islamics everyday who are saying " You Will Die for My Beliefs" and thats where I draw a line in the sand and brandish my pen which is far mightier than their sword.


Do you understand this ?

Originally Posted by Brynn

Cindy Sheehan is a mother grieving the still recent loss of her son. I don't care what kind of ass anyone makes of themselves in the course of that unbearable, nightmarish transition. Have some compassion, for Christ's sake. It's obvious you no nothing of that kind of loss.
The war in Iraq is a disaster on every possible level. There is no way around that. At least she's been a courageous voice for what should be painfully obvious to all. I haven't followed her actions in the last year, and I don't care. She gets a free ride in my book, and speaks for many voiceless families coping with loss.

And, blow me down, but I actually agree completely with Duke about Chavez, much as I hate to admit that i'm actually reading these rantings. My best friend, a venuzuelan, confirms all.

[madasacutsnake]

Originally Posted by The Duke

and I see Islamics everyday who are saying " You Will Die for My Beliefs" and thats where I draw a line in the sand and brandish my pen which is far mightier than their sword.

Duke, this is interesting. Do you consider that perhaps politics and economics play a part in eastern dissatisfaction with the West? And that possibly jihadism is a tool to manipulate that dissatisfaction for political and economic gain?

I have always found it hard to swallow that a group of prosperous and enfranchised people suddenly decide that it would be a great idea to pop out and kill some people from another religion. After all, there's plenty of stuff about smoting and stoning in the Bible and generally western people dont feel the need to smote and stone.

[Audreyvgs]

He overrates his pen.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by madasacutsnake

Duke, this is interesting. Do you consider that perhaps politics and economics play a part in eastern dissatisfaction with the West? And that possibly jihadism is a tool to manipulate that dissatisfaction for political and economic gain?

I have always found it hard to swallow that a group of prosperous and enfranchised people suddenly decide that it would be a great idea to pop out and kill some people from another religion. After all, there's plenty of stuff about smoting and stoning in the Bible and generally western people dont feel the need to smote and stone.

I don't think it's the politics , because in most of the hard line Islamic countries the Mullah is the boss ..he doesn't get elected by people , he appoints himself in the name of Alah ...

I do consider the fact that most of these countries are dirt poor , under-educated and stressed out by various factors of tyranny and serfdom .

You see uneducated people will always allow others who appoint themselves to think and act for them , this syndrome of responsibility by proxy grows from a weak social system where higher education takes a back seat to superstition and myths.


What we have here are in the west are a group , or shall we say a society of hard working , highly educated enfranchised people who are busily debating about whether they should defend themselves from an onslaught by a group of bloodthirsty Disenfrachised Cro-Magnons who's belief is that their way is the only way , and we accomodate them about this in lieu to actually planning a solid defense first and offering them our help second .

You may not know this but I Coach Footbal ,and having been among the Champs , I came to find out at an early stage that indeed the best offense is a very good and integer Defense .

Of course this debate can be seen in many different ways , as it takes place everywhere in the west.

This unwanted , and unpopular War for example was not something just suddenly decided , but grew out of repeated acts of failed diplomacy spanning six US administrations Carter's was the administration that broke the camels back.

The same culture or civilization if you want to call it that , is attempting to destroy our Democracy.
They will not listen to any form of reason coming from us , nor will they make any concessions or compromises to allow for our two civilizations of alter beliefs to coincide in any form of peace , unless that peace means that we don the yoke , pay Jizyah and become their infidel slaves .

Surely there is plenty of smite and smote in the old bible (Old Testament ), but when was the last time you heard any Christian , or preacher , or even the Pope holler "Glory Be to God let's cut off all their heads and drink their blood for they are no good and do not believe as we do." ?

Jesus never ever said that , in fact he said exactly the opposite ....

Only I am sorry to say , Jesus is not here to save us now ....He gave us the Tools ....of which I am 100% convinced he learned his philosophies under the tutelage of the Confucions..No I think we are going to have to come together as one western world and think and act our way through this ...

THere is no Kiss and Make up coming from Usama ben Ladin ,and the Mullahs , so the choices are extremely limited to us !


I say Confront them , tell them who we are , what we stand for , and that we aren't going to change for them ..they on the other do not have to change for us .

Simply put, " all violence from all sides must be condemned and stopped , but it takes two to tango , nobody will be allowed to dance alone at this contest.

We may have to reform our view of Islam indeed , and Islam will certainly have to reform their view of the rest of the world , the non Islamic world !

PS my wife called me to the table , so I pubbed it and corrected it later ,,hope you don't mind this !

[madasacutsnake]

Originally Posted by madasacutsnake

Duke, this is interesting. Do you consider that perhaps politics and economics play a part in eastern dissatisfaction with the West? And that possibly jihadism is a tool to manipulate that dissatisfaction for political and economic gain?

I have always found it hard to swallow that a group of prosperous and enfranchised people suddenly decide that it would be a great idea to pop out and kill some people from another religion. After all, there's plenty of stuff about smoting and stoning in the Bible and generally western people dont feel the need to smote and stone.

^^

There.

Or to recap...............

Duke: Islam is really bad!

Snake: Maybe we could discuss some of your other views

Duke: Islam is really really bad!

Snake: Ok. If you don't have anything else to discuss, forget it

Duke: Islam is really really bad and you are ignorant.

Snake: I'm not ignorant and I wanted to hear your other views

Duke: Well then, would you like to talk about how Islam is bad?

Snake: No.

[trisherina]

Originally Posted by madasacutsnake

Duke, this is interesting. Do you consider that perhaps politics and economics play a part in eastern dissatisfaction with the West? And that possibly jihadism is a tool to manipulate that dissatisfaction for political and economic gain?

I have always found it hard to swallow that a group of prosperous and enfranchised people suddenly decide that it would be a great idea to pop out and kill some people from another religion. After all, there's plenty of stuff about smoting and stoning in the Bible and generally western people dont feel the need to smote and stone.

Dammit, and I was just about to smite something.

FWIW, I thought this was a very polite effort to draw you out, Duke.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by trisherina

Dammit, and I was just about to smite something.

FWIW, I thought this was a very polite effort to draw you out, Duke.

Now I get it ....
And when I answered that it was mainly focused on poverty and religious intolerance , I was accused of using rhetoric .

I believe if you pick up any newspaper today from the middle east and either read it ( interpreted or otherwise) you will find out that I virtually nailed it .

I dunno what Mad is beefing about , I gave the answer I though was best . not his answer !

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by madasacutsnake

^^

There.

Or to recap...............

Duke: Islam is really bad!

Snake: Maybe we could discuss some of your other views

Duke: Islam is really really bad!

Snake: Ok. If you don't have anything else to discuss, forget it

Duke: Islam is really really bad and you are ignorant.

Snake: I'm not ignorant and I wanted to hear your other views

Duke: Well then, would you like to talk about how Islam is bad?

Snake: No.

Now really ,. You and I both know that I never said that , but of course you did ....just recently !


I said this :

It's religion

I don't think it's the politics , because in most of the hard line Islamic countries the Mullah is the boss ..he doesn't get elected by people , he appoints himself in the name of Alah ...

It's self inflicted Poverty :

I do consider the fact that most of these countries are dirt poor , under-educated and stressed out by various factors of tyranny and serfdom .

It's unconditional control and submission :

You see uneducated people will always allow others who appoint themselves to think and act for them , this syndrome of responsibility by proxy grows from a weak social system where higher education takes a back seat to superstition and myths.

Then there is valid comparison by view:

What we have here are in the west are a group , or shall we say a society of hard working , highly educated enfranchised people who are busily debating about whether they should defend themselves from an onslaught by a group of bloodthirsty Disenfrachised Cro-Magnons who's belief is that their way is the only way , and we accomodate them about this in lieu to actually planning a solid defense first and offering them our help second .

Then some personal BS I should have left out but because I lead men not to find me , but instead to find themselves , soooo I just couldn't resist :

You may not know this but I Coach Footbal ,and having been among the Champs , I came to find out at an early stage that indeed the best offense is a very good and integer Defense

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Then the right of choice of course :

Of course this debate can be seen in many different ways , as it takes place everywhere in the west.

This unwanted , and unpopular War for example was not something just suddenly decided , but grew out of repeated acts of failed diplomacy spanning six US administrations Carter's was the administration that broke the camels back.

And now the substance YOU can find written in black and white in the unholy Quran , by Bakhari under Suras 2 through 9 , remember they are saying what mostly amounts to this , not I :

The same culture or civilization if you want to call it that , is attempting to destroy our Democracy.
They will not listen to any form of reason coming from us , nor will they make any concessions or compromises to allow for our two civilizations of alter beliefs to coincide in any form of peace , unless that peace means that we don the yoke , pay Jizyah and become their infidel slaves .

Again a Comparison and some mild advice:

Surely there is plenty of smite and smote in the old bible (Old Testament ), but when was the last time you heard any Christian , or preacher , or even the Pope holler "Glory Be to God let's cut off all their heads and drink their blood for they are no good and do not believe as we do." ?

Jesus never ever said that , in fact he said exactly the opposite ....

Only I am sorry to say , Jesus is not here to save us now ....He gave us the Tools ....of which I am 100% convinced he learned his philosophies under the tutelage of the Confucions..No I think we are going to have to come together as one western world and think and act our way through this ...

And lastly the plain old simple truth :

THere is no Kiss and Make up coming from Usama ben Ladin ,and the Mullahs , so the choices are extremely limited to us !


I say Confront them , tell them who we are , what we stand for , and that we aren't going to change for them ..they on the other do not have to change for us .

Simply put, " all violence from all sides must be condemned and stopped , but it takes two to tango , nobody will be allowed to dance alone at this contest.

We may have to reform our view of Islam indeed , and Islam will certainly have to reform their view of the rest of the world , the non Islamic world !

I would like to add that I never considered you to be an ignorant person , nor am I about to begin thinking of you as ignorant ...maybe just a little confused which is perfectly normal by all standards ...just look at the world today and it's easy to know why misunderstandings are commonplace .

I hope I explained myself to the fullest of your understanding , because I know we both don't wear the same pair of sunglasses ..do you know that ?

[trisherina]

I'm sorry, Duke, I missed that in its first iteration. I vaguely remember tuning out right around the football analogy. My apologies.

As for this:

Originally Posted by The Duke

Surely there is plenty of smite and smote in the old bible (Old Testament ), but when was the last time you heard any Christian , or preacher , or even the Pope holler "Glory Be to God let's cut off all their heads and drink their blood for they are no good and do not believe as we do." ?

Well, considering I had to teach the story of Elijah slaying the false prophets at Sunday school last summer -- to children -- my hands are not at all clean in this regard, even though in the end we talked about the likelihood that prayer does/doesn't affect the weather and planted seeds in peat pots instead.

[The Duke]

It's one thing to teach Children about Biblical historical Violence , especially when it is toned with the idea that murder is wrong as the Christian and most monotheistic faiths will , but it's another thing entirely to teach kids that murder is okay ,especially when it is toned with the idea that Jews are pigs and monkeys to be destroyed , and that all non believers should either convert to Islam or suffer the sword .

There's absolutely nothing wrong in giving a history lesson , however I blame anyone who willfully induces others to repeat that bloody history !