Abortion

[Coffee]

Sooooo...masturbation is abortion of riff raff sperm in order to get to the Einsteins at the bottom of the ball bag?!

[craig johnston]

i always wondered why the people who are the most ardent anti-abortionists are also the most rabid pro-capital punishmentists.

[Stephi_B]

^One of the big mysteries not even 3 years at ICQ/CE could answer me.

[Avalon]

Is it too much to ask a woman who has conceived to place the child into adoption?

Yes it is. They can't place the kids that are in orphanages now..but, with your brilliant and innovative solution, I am sure that will be remedied with every right to lifer being required to adopt a minimum of 7 unwanted children. We'll start with you since it is your idea..please send pics of the family to share with the class.
OR
Is it too much to ask for every man to be sterilized? How about, all men are required to donate to a sperm bank, then be sterilized, so that every birth will be planned. Sound like a winner? Oh, and you'd still be required to adopt more children than you can afford regardless of income, health, or other situation.
Yeah, I didn't think so.

i always wondered why the people who are the most ardent anti-abortionists are also the most rabid pro-capital punishmentists

I have always wondered why they are always all talk, no solution.

[auntie aubrey]

Originally Posted by craig johnston

i always wondered why the people who are the most ardent anti-abortionists are also the most rabid pro-capital punishmentists.

i've always wondered why anti-choice advocates never seem to provide solutions for the children whose lives they think they're saving. i guess once the baby hits the birth canal, they stop caring.



(i say "anti-choice" because saying "anti-abortion" no truer than saying "pro-abortion" or "pro-life." the issue is not about WANTING abortions to take place. like waving pompoms and shouting "yay abortions!" the debate is about choice. you're either for choice or against it. and pro-life? who the hell is anti-life? no one. the "pro-life" term is nothing but a disgusting attempt at spin.)

[Stephi_B]

Thought again about the seeming contradiction...

Originally Posted by CJ

i always wondered why the people who are the most ardent anti-abortionists are also the most rabid pro-capital punishmentists.

(one could also add here pro-war-leading, pro-easy-weapon-access, anti-social-security, ... - i.e. not the best attempts for saving innocent lives)

Originally Posted by Auntie

the "pro-life" term is nothing but a disgusting attempt at spin.

(just like showing pictures of well-developed, often already viable fetuses instead of few-weeks-old embryos which look just the same as other mammal and even reptilian embryos - yeah, well, that could also disturb the Creationism/Intelligent Design picture...)

... and the more I think about it, the saving of lives might not play the real role for the banning-abortion-crowd, it's about controlling females, or better said the female body and that's something done/tried by various means (ban of contraception means, forced dress code, keeping females at home, genital mutilation, ...) in many places and usually justified by religion or tradition (and usually BS) and if one thinks further even the mass-rape-strategy in many wars goes in that direction. All of these things make the female body, female sexuality and it's inherent procreation ability a public affair.

[Hyakujo's Fox]

Originally Posted by craig johnston

i always wondered why the people who are the most ardent anti-abortionists are also the most rabid pro-capital punishmentists.

Originally Posted by Jost, Glaser, Kruganski, & Sulloway

Analyzing political conservatism as motivated social cognition integrates theories of personality (authoritarianism, dogmatism—intolerance of ambiguity), epistemic and existential needs (for closure, regulatory focus, terror management), and ideological rationalization (social dominance, systemjustification). A meta-analysis (88 samples, 12 countries, 22,818 cases) confirms that several psychological variables predict political conservatism: death anxiety (weighted mean r = .50); system instability (.47); dogmatism—intolerance of ambiguity (.34); openness to experience (—.32); uncertainty tolerance (—.27); needs for order, structure, and closure (.26); integrative complexity (—.20); fear of threat and loss (.18); and self-esteem (—.09). The core ideology of conservatism stresses resistance to change and justification of inequality and is motivated by needs that vary situationally and dispositionally to manage uncertainty and threat.

that sort of thing

[Pixie Cherries]

It was worth the read just to get to this one:

Originally Posted by Coffee

Sooooo...masturbation is abortion of riff raff sperm in order to get to the Einsteins at the bottom of the ball bag?!

It's verbal art. Edgy. Raw. Great.