words we need

[Frieda]

thanks everybody

the word clusterfvck should be appropriate for work love it!

agonize about something might be too severe.. i'm not sure.. i've never heard of faffing about, i'll pay attention to the USA and UK guys to check if they use it

i guess with geneuzel, the important thing is that it's about nothing really important, but everybody wants it to be good before moving on to the next point. so there's a discussion, and after about 10 minutes people start getting up and go get coffee or go on a potty break, and when they come back it still isn't solved and everybody gets really fed up. i usually stick around to watch the fireworks.

the groupthink link is very interesting and applicable to IT organizations-- in fact, it's exactly what's causing "desert island" behavior in IT organizations.. like the server management guys vs the help desk.

neat

[Angry Kid Hoyt]

Originally Posted by Frieda

thanks everybody

the word clusterfvck should be appropriate for work love it!

agonize about something might be too severe.. i'm not sure.. i've never heard of faffing about, i'll pay attention to the USA and UK guys to check if they use it

i guess with geneuzel, the important thing is that it's about nothing really important, but everybody wants it to be good before moving on to the next point. so there's a discussion, and after about 10 minutes people start getting up and go get coffee or go on a potty break, and when they come back it still isn't solved and everybody gets really fed up. i usually stick around to watch the fireworks.

the groupthink link is very interesting and applicable to IT organizations-- in fact, it's exactly what's causing "desert island" behavior in IT organizations.. like the server management guys vs the help desk.

neat

It is so relieving to know that this phenomenon is universal.

[lukkucairi]

Originally Posted by Frieda

the groupthink link is very interesting and applicable to IT organizations-- in fact, it's exactly what's causing "desert island" behavior in IT organizations.. like the server management guys vs the help desk.

neat

see also "corporate silos"

[Stephi_B]

Jein:

a hybrid of ja and nein, meaning not 'maybe yes, maybe no', but 'yes and no simultaneously';
very practical as answer to questions concerning quantum physics, tricky philosophical/ethical questions, human beings in general and in particularly inter-human-relationships

Is there in English (Yo doesn't work out, I figured ) or any other language such a word or a similar thing?

[Brynn]

I think we just say "maybe" or "perhaps" ...

Years ago when Steven Spielberg was directing a lot of movies, a friend of mine coined a hilarious phrase to describe the director's magical touch with handling action scenes, or his way of choreographing busy background crowds to create a sense of excitement, or just his ability to enchant in general - he would say it in a very pretentious German accent - "Spielbergian Wunderscheiss"

Not sure if "Wunderscheiss" (wondershit?) is very polite in German, but we got away with it in English. It's not a real term in German, is it? We thought we made it up ourselves, but who knows? We used it an amused, admiring way.

It privately came to mean anything that was done with an over-developed sense of drama and hullabaloo - fireworks on Fourth of July, an elaborate, well-planned party, an over-the-top birthday cake or anything made by Martha Stewart. We live in different countries now, and I miss being able to use this handy phrase with someone who laughs and knows what I mean by it.

[T.I.P.]

Originally Posted by Stephi_B

Jein:

a hybrid of ja and nein, meaning not 'maybe yes, maybe no', but 'yes and no simultaneously';
very practical as answer to questions concerning quantum physics, tricky philosophical/ethical questions, human beings in general and in particularly inter-human-relationships

Is there in English (Yo doesn't work out, I figured ) or any other language such a word or a similar thing?

the Indian head bobble is the South-Asian relative of the Jein.

It can mean "yes", it can mean "no", it can mean "maybe", but also "Ok but throw in a few more rupies", "you are crazy", "I don't know", "I don't understand a word of what you are babbling" and a number of other things.

If you spend some time in India you may avoid the runs but I guarantee that you will come home with a case of the head bobbles. It wears off soon afterwards.

Wikipedia has more on this subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_bobble

[Stephi_B]

^^Better translation might be miracleshit, it's no real term (yet, I might introduce it ), so it cannot be impolite
(And just like saying that's hot shit in English is maybe floppy but not impolite)

I think we just say "maybe" or "perhaps" ...

You need a word! Maybe/perhaps is uncertain about yes or no, but jein is certain it is both.
Mmh... I'll think about a word....

^Wow the Indian head-bobble is even more universal methinks

[Frieda]

i need a word that describes the phenomenon of saying "ooh, i'm going to watch that movie on tv tonight!" and being all excited that it's going to be on, while you actually have that particular movie in your posession on dvd. for years.

you know? is there a word for that?

[Stephi_B]

^livewatchnetic

[T.I.P.]

Originally Posted by Frieda

i need a word that describes the phenomenon of saying "ooh, i'm going to watch that movie on tv tonight!" and being all excited that it's going to be on, while you actually have that particular movie in your posession on dvd. for years.

you know? is there a word for that?

amnesia ?