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NekoPunk · 11-15-2002, 11:57 PM

hey, mr. canada. if you don't like the politics here, don't stay. ^_^ no one' forcing you, are they?

amanda · 11-16-2002, 08:23 AM

"When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere."
-Robert Heinlein

Have any of you read "Crito" and "Apology" from Plato's Republic? Yeah, yeah, not since college and it was for a paper. Pick it up sometime. It is the reason why I'm out of the country. Socrates argued what Nekopunk just said so succinctly- if we are to live in a state, we must abide by the contract it sets forth. If we don't like it, we have the option to try to change it or leave.

I left.

I'm not egotistical enough to believe I'm the man (or woman) for the job. And I have not seen any one person or cause worth lining up behind wholeheartedly. I've seen protesters out on the street for a cause, becoming hoarse shouting their slogans. Meanwhile I'm inside talking with politicians, and making a hell of lot more leeway than they are just because I'm playing the politicians' game.

And yet, the more I hear about the state of affairs there, I'm torn.

Torn between looking away, never looking back and going back to knock some heads together, Three-Stooges style. And you know who would be first.

By the way, MoN, New Zealand is beautiful.

11-15-2002, 10:50 PM	#1
nycwriters Stuck in T.O. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Floundering Posts: 4,134	Well this is disturbing . Last edited by nycwriters : 09-15-2003 at 10:03 PM.

11-15-2002, 11:57 PM	#2
NekoPunk Don't dream it, be it... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: on the mountian, TN Posts: 370	hey, mr. canada. if you don't like the politics here, don't stay. ^_^ no one' forcing you, are they? __________________ It's just a jump to the left... And then a step to the right... With your hands on your hips... You bring your knees in tight... But it's the pelvic thrust... That really drives you insane! Let's do the time-warp again! Let's do the time-warp again!

11-16-2002, 08:23 AM	#3
amanda old s'cool Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,426	Back to the point at hand "When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere." -Robert Heinlein Have any of you read "Crito" and "Apology" from Plato's Republic? Yeah, yeah, not since college and it was for a paper. Pick it up sometime. It is the reason why I'm out of the country. Socrates argued what Nekopunk just said so succinctly- if we are to live in a state, we must abide by the contract it sets forth. If we don't like it, we have the option to try to change it or leave. I left. I'm not egotistical enough to believe I'm the man (or woman) for the job. And I have not seen any one person or cause worth lining up behind wholeheartedly. I've seen protesters out on the street for a cause, becoming hoarse shouting their slogans. Meanwhile I'm inside talking with politicians, and making a hell of lot more leeway than they are just because I'm playing the politicians' game. And yet, the more I hear about the state of affairs there, I'm torn. Torn between looking away, never looking back and going back to knock some heads together, Three-Stooges style. And you know who would be first. By the way, MoN, New Zealand is beautiful. Last edited by amanda : 11-16-2002 at 08:27 AM.

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