ZEFRANK.COM - message board  

Go Back   ZEFRANK.COM - message board > Et Cetera
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-11-2007, 06:21 PM   #46
Frieda
in limbo
 
Frieda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 19,502
Quote:
Originally Posted by auntie aubrey View Post
that's not evolution, that's just accidental death. evolution would be if there were people who mutated to form a resistance to lava, and people who lived at the base of volcanoes who didn't have that mutation died off, leaving the ones with the mutation to breed and pass that mutation on.

or like blender-resistant faces.
i think evolution will make us extinct. i dont think mankind is as good for nature as mankind thinks it is.

and i dont deserve to be here either with my fwked genes. but i'm here, so i make the best of it and have a blast.. but evolution-wise.. no. definitely not.


but we were talking about love, right? no, it will not die.. not as long as i live, anyway
__________________
zoek waar je wil, maar het zit in jezelf

oh yeah
Frieda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 08:29 PM   #47
lukkucairi
earth worker
 
lukkucairi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: on the planet
Posts: 5,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frieda View Post
i think evolution will make us extinct.
adapt or die - either way are we still human?

sorry, I'm digressing.

but I restate: no, love won't die. it's a fundamental force in this neck of the woods.
lukkucairi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 10:17 PM   #48
brightpearl
Rhinoceros fan
 
brightpearl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,749
M'kay, since things always come in pairs... Who thinks it'd be possible for hate to die?

That'd be nice.
brightpearl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 10:18 PM   #49
Anna
n
 
Anna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,752
maybe we have to start over and define what Craig means by, will love ever die?

What is love?

is it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_BFenXRZ8

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QfEiDO9opg

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojpbOJjrGBQ

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvOQHZAL3ug

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxm0PDv9Fc0

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF3SBrLrgmE

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyAf45bCRE

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUoEil40qZA

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEh5pWjcWCg

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxPcmi1U25g

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8_Sn8m1AKI

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrSs7gfLDjc

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaS1FmkYFh4

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UkIkwy5ZM

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2YflVxICE

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rkwqF648tk

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtqaqeWgkBU

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxscKtlGL70

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA5AQzzdzNk

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrjX0lmXJTs

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydKK54_VXbo

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tcn49zHLt0

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzzIuxy_0EQ

this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou0VpBU3y7k

or..?

I had way too much help with this and love needs its own thread
Anna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 11:37 PM   #50
auntie aubrey
excursions
 
auntie aubrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: beyond the call of duty
Posts: 2,443
Quote:
Originally Posted by brightpearl View Post
M'kay, since things always come in pairs... Who thinks it'd be possible for hate to die?

That'd be nice.
not a chance. the good and the bad will remain. if we could eliminate either, we wouldn't be human anymore.

maybe that's the answer. if we ever evolve to the point where love is no longer possible, we will no longer be human. therefore humans will never evolve to the point that they can no longer love. the transformation to the "other" will have to happen prior to that moment.

ipso fatso.
__________________
that dog won't hunt, monsignor
auntie aubrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 02:26 AM   #51
Hyakujo's Fox
left hanging
 
Hyakujo's Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream
Posts: 10,071
from an evolutionary point of view, you lose something when it ceases to help you creating descendants. like those fish that took to living in caves and lost their ability to see, we would lose our ability to love if it ceases to help us. if we no longer had any dealings with our own children, the ability to love them would be redundant, and be lost. if romantic love ceases to lead to reproductive unions, it would also become redundant, and be lost.

if evolution is going to continue, people are going to have to get out there and have kids, so rather than adapting us to the social isolation offered by technology, selection could well favour those who can best resist it. evolution might just as well lead to people having far stronger desires toward physical social interaction. if birth control remains universally available, the sex drive might become weaker, as having lots of sex doesn't lead to having lots of children anymore, but the desire to actually have children might become stronger.

anyway it all depends on what's going to happen. these days i'm not entirely convinced technological civilisation is here for the long term anyway.
Hyakujo's Fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 01:40 PM   #52
lukkucairi
earth worker
 
lukkucairi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: on the planet
Posts: 5,844
this. this one is love. DEFINITELY.
lukkucairi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 03:45 PM   #53
β cyg
Registered User
 
β cyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: ªlbire°
Posts: 249
Quote:
Originally Posted by craig johnston View Post
blablablaaa blablablaaa on the BBC .....ary theorist blablaaaa commi.... nating and blablablabla... ...blaaaaah. Could that ever happen?
no.
β cyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 06:52 AM   #54
Anna
n
 
Anna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,752
Quote:
from an evolutionary point of view, you lose something when it ceases to help you creating descendants. like those fish that took to living in caves and lost their ability to see, we would lose our ability to love if it ceases to help us.

actually the ghost fish or pinkie fish, when put back into the light will grow eyes. So once developed there’s always something at rest waiting buried deep in the memory of our DNA waiting for the right switch.

Regardless, of what the naysayers have in store I don’t think technology will destroy the whole of humanity, love or the earth. The greatest impact will be on our quality of life. Humans are remarkable at two things: adapting to situations and eliminating waste. The fact, at this late date, we are still at war around the world and have little care is a testament to that. We have and will forever stand on the razors edge when it comes to technology. The article predicts an H.G. Wells future scenario of a subterranean working race, and a complacent race that is meant for breeding and eating. Wells has been rather accurate in many of his predictions, but even in this story there seems to be a ray of hope in the end. Unless the earth is split in two by some strange unforeseen universal collision or all of humanity commits mass suicide at once human life will go on adapting and eliminating until the sun dies. Survival as a species is programmed in our DNA and will be difficult if not impossible to turn off or eliminate completely and probably why nature keeps teenagers in love stupid and necessary.
Anna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2007, 04:39 AM   #55
lukkucairi
earth worker
 
lukkucairi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: on the planet
Posts: 5,844
Love will never die.

It's stubborn like that.

weedkiller?
lukkucairi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2007, 07:49 AM   #56
brightpearl
Rhinoceros fan
 
brightpearl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,749
^No thanks, just some tiny pruning shears.
brightpearl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2007, 02:36 AM   #57
Anna
n
 
Anna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,752
will hate ever die?
Anna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2007, 03:32 AM   #58
trisherina
meretricious dilettante
 
trisherina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,068
**** no!
__________________
Because how we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives. -- Annie Dillard
trisherina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2007, 02:46 PM   #59
Stephi_B
waaaaaaa :)
 
Stephi_B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Berlin
Posts: 3,875
Read an article which sort of also had the future of love as topic, there isn't yet an English translation online, only the photo gallery which contains some of the statements made as captions. The main statement: Love will not die but both humans might prefer to love / have sex with hightech robots in the future - now, I dunno, sounds a bit unlikely to me... What do you think?
Stephi_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2007, 08:12 PM   #60
lukkucairi
earth worker
 
lukkucairi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: on the planet
Posts: 5,844
ever read any of Asimov's caves of steel series?

he had some interesting speculations on the logical outcome of technological isolation.
lukkucairi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.