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Old 11-05-2006, 03:19 PM   #1
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November 7th Election

Is everyone voting on Tuesday?

I just watched this movie on HBO called "Hacking Democracy" and I am very scared.

This country is so corrupt.
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Old 11-05-2006, 03:42 PM   #2
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Damn right I am. I was going to use an absentee ballot but remembered that during our mayoral election this past May some of the absentee votes were*misplaced* by the committee over-seeing the voting ethics. I'm scared, too.
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Old 11-05-2006, 03:46 PM   #3
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I just sent in my Absentee Ballot on Thursday. Hope it doesn't get lost.
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:44 PM   #4
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i've been called for jiury duty on election day, and the courthouse is nowhere near the building where i vote. supposedly they'll let us out by 5:00 so i'm going to fight like hell through rush hour traffic way downtown to get back out to the suburbs before the polls close.

wish me luck. i'm a tiny blue dot in a big red sea.
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:53 PM   #5
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Just in case you're on the fence as to how to cast your ballot, here's an editorial from today's NY Times with some very valid points:

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November 5, 2006
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The Difference Two Years Made


On Tuesday, when this page runs the list of people it has endorsed for election, we will include no Republican Congressional candidates for the first time in our memory. Although Times editorials tend to agree with Democrats on national policy, we have proudly and consistently endorsed a long line of moderate Republicans, particularly for the House. Our only political loyalty is to making the two-party system as vital and responsible as possible.

That is why things are different this year.

To begin with, the Republican majority that has run the House — and for the most part, the Senate — during President Bush’s tenure has done a terrible job on the basics. Its tax-cutting-above-all-else has wrecked the budget, hobbled the middle class and endangered the long-term economy. It has refused to face up to global warming and done pathetically little about the country’s dependence on foreign oil.

Republican leaders, particularly in the House, have developed toxic symptoms of an overconfident majority that has been too long in power. They methodically shut the opposition — and even the more moderate members of their own party — out of any role in the legislative process. Their only mission seems to be self-perpetuation.

The current Republican majority managed to achieve that burned-out, brain-dead status in record time, and with a shocking disregard for the most minimal ethical standards. It was bad enough that a party that used to believe in fiscal austerity blew billions on pork-barrel projects. It is worse that many of the most expensive boondoggles were not even directed at their constituents, but at lobbyists who financed their campaigns and high-end lifestyles.

That was already the situation in 2004, and even then this page endorsed Republicans who had shown a high commitment to ethics reform and a willingness to buck their party on important issues like the environment, civil liberties and women’s rights.

For us, the breaking point came over the Republicans’ attempt to undermine the fundamental checks and balances that have safeguarded American democracy since its inception. The fact that the White House, House and Senate are all controlled by one party is not a threat to the balance of powers, as long as everyone understands the roles assigned to each by the Constitution. But over the past two years, the White House has made it clear that it claims sweeping powers that go well beyond any acceptable limits. Rather than doing their duty to curb these excesses, the Congressional Republicans have dedicated themselves to removing restraints on the president’s ability to do whatever he wants. To paraphrase Tom DeLay, the Republicans feel you don’t need to have oversight hearings if your party is in control of everything.

An administration convinced of its own perpetual rightness and a partisan Congress determined to deflect all criticism of the chief executive has been the recipe for what we live with today.

Congress, in particular the House, has failed to ask probing questions about the war in Iraq or hold the president accountable for his catastrophic bungling of the occupation. It also has allowed Mr. Bush to avoid answering any questions about whether his administration cooked the intelligence on weapons of mass destruction. Then, it quietly agreed to close down the one agency that has been riding herd on crooked and inept American contractors who have botched everything from construction work to the security of weapons.

After the revelations about the abuse, torture and illegal detentions in Abu Ghraib, Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay, Congress shielded the Pentagon from any responsibility for the atrocities its policies allowed to happen. On the eve of the election, and without even a pretense at debate in the House, Congress granted the White House permission to hold hundreds of noncitizens in jail forever, without due process, even though many of them were clearly sent there in error.

In the Senate, the path for this bill was cleared by a handful of Republicans who used their personal prestige and reputation for moderation to paper over the fact that the bill violates the Constitution in fundamental ways. Having acquiesced in the president’s campaign to dilute their own authority, lawmakers used this bill to further Mr. Bush’s goal of stripping the powers of the only remaining independent branch, the judiciary.

This election is indeed about George W. Bush — and the Congressional majority’s insistence on protecting him from the consequences of his mistakes and misdeeds. Mr. Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 and proceeded to govern as if he had an enormous mandate. After he actually beat his opponent in 2004, he announced he now had real political capital and intended to spend it. We have seen the results. It is frightening to contemplate the new excesses he could concoct if he woke up next Wednesday and found that his party had maintained its hold on the House and Senate.
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:01 PM   #6
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I'm surprised your court office is open on an election day. In NJ most state employees are off. Good luck Tuesday - every vote is important.

Thanks, Smarty, I wish more people would read that editorial.

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Old 11-05-2006, 09:49 PM   #7
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i've been called for jiury duty on election day, and the courthouse is nowhere near the building where i vote. supposedly they'll let us out by 5:00 so i'm going to fight like hell through rush hour traffic way downtown to get back out to the suburbs before the polls close.

wish me luck. i'm a tiny blue dot in a big red sea.
No advance polls?

I guess it's too late eh?
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Old 11-05-2006, 10:33 PM   #8
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oh the whole damn situation is messed up. i was called for jury duty only 4 months ago, and i shouldn't have been eligible again for at least 6. that bothered me but i didn't think much about it.

then last night my husband is looking at the notice and it's got my maiden name on it. which hasn't legally been my name for over 2 years.

so basically the city has suddenly decided that i am two people, both possessing the same SSN, living at the same address, and eligible for jury duty twice as often as anyone.

since it's not my legal name, i'm considering calling them and telling them to stick the notice where the sun don't shine. and THEN i'm going to go vote.
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:46 PM   #9
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Good luck with that....

I'm pullin for ya
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:02 AM   #10
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I've got jury duty this month too - second time this year.

I'm extremely pessimistic about elections this year and all elections to follow from now on as long as Diebold is running things. I'm convinced that we are no longer a democracy. We haven't been for a long time, but this is the election year that all illusions of a fair election are gone. In spite of all polls showing a victory for the Democrats, I'm positive that the Republicans will steal things again anyway just like they've done for the last eight years. If rigged voting machines and "mishaps" in minority neighborhoods and voter intimidation and brown shirts busting in to prevent recounts aren't enough, we also have all the bizarre Republican redistricting in play to tie up any other loose ends.
I really hope I'm wrong.
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:26 AM   #11
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Jury dudy sucks. (Oh, my, I meant duty.) ...really - a typo.

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Old 11-06-2006, 03:07 AM   #12
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In spite of all poles showing a victory for the Democrats, I'm positive that the Republicans will steal things again anyway just like they've done for the last eight years.
i don't have confidence that the polls have accurately predicted a democratic takeover of congress, but that has nothing to do with any misdeeds on the part of the republican party. i simply blame the people who are stupid enough to vote republican.

maybe i should be more worried about the electronic voting system, but at this point i think we should fear OURSELVES, the voters, first. we've already screwed ourselves eight ways from sunday using the traditional voting methods. it's not like the electronic system was suddenly going to iron out voter stupidity.
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:05 PM   #13
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BTW, here's a link to that HBO show. (It's 1h22m, and posted in its entirety.)

Gawd, I just re-read something I'd written to friends when I was a poll watcher for Election Protection in 2004. Since then, I think I blocked from my memory how horrified I was by what I saw. Reading back through my account of it, I recall that any suspicions I had that the election might be stolen became a conviction -- no doubt at all -- that it had been stolen. Even if Ohio had legitimately gone for Bush (which was less a battleground state than ground zero for stolen votes), Florida, where I went, would have decided the election for Kerry had ALL democratic voters been allowed to vote and their votes been counted.

(If anyone's interested, my account -- which is admittedly long-winded -- is posted here in two parts. It was written with humor, for my friends, but that doesn't make what I saw any less outrageous.)

Edited to add: This doesn't change my belief that my vote's important - just the opposite. Now more than ever: DON'T FORGET TO VOTE.

And if I were called to jury duty and it threatened my ability to vote, I'd walk right out of the courtroom when necessary to make it to the polls before they closed.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:34 PM   #14
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And if I were called to jury duty and it threatened my ability to vote, I'd walk right out of the courtroom when necessary to make it to the polls before they closed.
that's how important it is to me, too. my husband tried to give me his subway pass and i said "keep it, i'm not going. they can issue a warrant for my arrest, see if i care."

it was a bit of a blusteringly grandiose moment, and as it turns out entirely unnecessary. i called the courthouse and they acknowledged their clerical error. no jury duty for me now! i can vote any ol' time i please!
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:41 PM   #15
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It's reassuring that something in the system works!

eta: Smarty, I just read that election blog. Well done! I'd forgotten how angry I'd been at the time when all that was going on, though. You're right, it brings it all back.

This, however, made me laugh out loud:

"The attorney remained petulant until Elizabeth came up with a brilliant idea: "I'll tell you what," she told the woman. "I might be able to assign you as a Precinct Attorney. We are in dire need of Precinct Attorneys, assigned to specific polling places, who can resolve problems on the spot without having to call in or wait for a mobile attorney to arrive."

This new title for exactly the same assignment she had been previously offered pleased the woman, and she gladly ran off to do her part. And thus, the Precinct Attorney was born, and shortly Elizabeth was dispatching happy attorneys to polling places all over the county."


We will be having an election night party. We will be watching The Daily Show and getting extremely drunk.
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