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Old 05-04-2007, 06:00 AM   #76
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why do/don't you own one?

Well back in September I had a guy point a gun in my face when I caught him breaking in outside of my neighbors house next door ..His partner in crime Hit me repeatedly with a piece of fire wood while I was being held at gun point ....

He whacked me over seven times around the head and neck ...including while I was running for my life to escape being shot and beaten ...I heard the gun go off , but I guess the bastard was a lousy shot

Now I don't know about you , but I used to Play American Footbal in my prime , and I used to Box in the golden gloves too , I still stand around 6'7'' and am built like a Patton Tank .....and I'm Alive

I don't think any of you frail juniors out there would have survived the beating the way I did , much less come away without shitting your drawers the way I did ...

I don't have a gun because the laws here say I can't own one without going through a tremendous paper mill of beauracracy (Holland)

And even if I had one , and used it in self defense against those criminal bastards , they would have locked me up instead of them ....

Now what was the $64,000.00 question again ?

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Old 05-04-2007, 09:07 AM   #77
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After reading this entire thread ( including my own post about Susie ), I have decided that this scares me more than any gun or thread about guns. Sorry if it seems offtopic, but if we are talking wholesale death, then this is what scares me...that and the fact that everyone seems to be taking it so casually.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/honeybee_die_off


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If you want to change horses mid stream..be an adult and ask the thread be directed to your current interest. Or start yet another thread.
Where is the new thread?
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:15 AM   #78
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Well back in September I had a guy point a gun in my face when I caught him breaking in outside of my neighbors house next door ..His partner in crime Hit me repeatedly with a piece of fire wood while I was being held at gun point ....

He whacked me over seven times around the head and neck ...including while I was running for my life to escape being shot and beaten ...I heard the gun go off , but I guess the bastard was a lousy shot

Now I don't know about you , but I used to Play American Footbal in my prime , and I used to Box in the golden gloves too , I still stand around 6'7'' and am built like a Patton Tank .....and I'm Alive

I don't think any of you frail juniors out there would have survived the beating the way I did , much less come away without shitting your drawers the way I did ...

I don't have a gun because the laws here say I can't own one without going through a tremendous paper mill of beauracracy (Holland)

And even if I had one , and used it in self defense against those criminal bastards , they would have locked me up instead of them ....

Now what was the $64,000.00 question again ?
Sometimes it takes personal experience like your's for people to see the value of our second amendment. Gun owners get a bad rap being labeled as cowboys, hick, rednecks, etc.etc. but if the people that had these imagines instilled in their heads could see the reality to the contrary, I think they just might ease up on the average law abiding gun owning citizen.

I'm all for tough gun laws but just don't take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens that choose to use them to defend themselves, their families and loved ones.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:44 AM   #79
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Where is the new thread?
pfft.
I was polite, I apologized for being off topic...and I didn't ask or expect anyone else to take up my cause. As for the new thread, someone else had already started one in Current events. I would have steered clear of this thread from then on in had he not made the statement below.

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frieda/zenbaby, this bread has grown stupid. please change the title of it to •bee•
Since zero clearly feels violated, maybe he should try to remember how it feels next time he hijacks someone's thread. Atleast I was polite about it.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:46 PM   #80
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...he hijacks someone's thread. Atleast I was polite about it.
hijacking?? you were "politely" or otherwise hijacking this thread? really? why?



why would you, or anyone for that matter, want to obstruct debate and distract attention away from the issues of gun-ownership, guns in society and overarmed societies?
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:09 PM   #81
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By stomping your foot and acting like a child, you have hijacked your own thread.
Anything to take the focus off of you. Okay, I'll play.


Sorry to disappoint you, but my intent was not to hijack your precious thread, but to show there are other, equally, if not more, important issues at hand. An over armed society scares you, but the break down of the food chain is not worth mentioning?

It is pretty clear that although you say "societies", you are pointing the finger at the United States. At the risk of going old school on you..the US was there when you needed it, regardless of how you feel about my country today, Britain and a couple of other countries were glad to see us. And we brought guns that protected and SYA. Yes that was eons ago; but I am still proud to live here.
Not everyone here owns a gun; not everyone who owns a gun is a murderer. Shot or starved, you are going to be just as dead, and that was the point of the bee story.

I made one post about the colony collapse. I apologized for being off topic and
I would have gladly walked away from this thread had you not gone out of your way to be an ass. I am well aware, and don't care, that it is me personally with whom you have a problem. If someone else had posted the same off topic article, you would have been excessively polite, thanked them for their input, and sent them on their way with a condescending pat on the head.

This way is fine with me.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:37 PM   #82
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:19 PM   #83
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well then. i guess the discussion is over?


too bad. i was enjoying it.
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:02 PM   #84
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I wonder how many of you...

Who have posted on this thread, whether pro or con, have ever actually had to fire a gun at someone, either legally (as a soldier, policeperson, security guard, etc) or not, and how many are speaking purely from theory and/or principle?

I HAVE done so, and have no interest whatsoever in owning a gun, any gun, privately... or in using one ever again.
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:10 PM   #85
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haven't fired a gun, or touched one, ever.
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:13 PM   #86
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i can't think of one single reason to want a gun.
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:42 PM   #87
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I've held them before. Never shot them. It's sad because as far as mechanics go they are beautiful, but the idea behind them is quite disturbing.
Back to my point, I've held them, and I don't like the feeling that comes over me.

There is no valid reason for people to use them, but people are destructive like that.
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Old 05-05-2007, 01:08 PM   #88
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We've got the anecdotal well covered.
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Old 05-05-2007, 01:48 PM   #89
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A good gun is like a good woman you have to support it all year round and you only get to shoot it once in a while.
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:00 PM   #90
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we've got vomit well covered now, too.
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