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Old 10-22-2003, 02:14 AM   #1
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The US Healthcare System (or lack thereof)

Big subject. Something obviously needs to change…
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Old 10-22-2003, 07:21 PM   #2
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I was part of a consumer opinion group last night- the topic of discussion was state and federal taxes: what to do about them, how to generate more money and where should the money be spent.

When the question was posed, "Where should the money be spent?", most people said prisons, transportation or schools. I was the only one in the room to say "Affordable Health Care for all citizens"

Most people tend to forget that is something we severely lack in this nation, the richest in the world. Healthcare should not be in the hands of fickle insurance companies, corportations that can go to Chapter 11 due to unsound accounting practices, or available only to those who fortunate enough to have a full-time job with sound temporal security. Increasingly, our job force is changing from more security to less- with temps, contracting and freelancing becoming more of the norm than the exception.

Fortunately, I live in Oregon, where the state health system is one of the most progressive in the union. Unfortuately, it's funded purely from fluctuating income and property taxes. In this poor economy, it doesn't have the meat to support the structure. We have no sales tax, which is seen as a political coup by many of our citizens. However, our state's revenue is short of the budget by $3 billion, almost 20%. That is worse than California.

Some of the most poorest nations in the world (Cuba) have world-class healthcare. We should see fit to do the same for ourselves.

Frankly, I see it as a fundamental human right.
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Old 10-22-2003, 08:56 PM   #3
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You have got to be kidding me, this country won't even give proper health care to soldiers that are fighting for it!
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:28 AM   #4
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I think U.S. could consider to give (at least) basic health care to all children and teenagers.
It's very complicated to organize a good and complex health system.

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Old 11-14-2003, 01:24 AM   #5
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Let me see, are there any small drug companies left... Wonder if insurance companies paid the patient and the patient paid the doctor if that would simplify the mess and confusion we have?

Too many layers of control by insurers, drug companies, the government (Medicare and the FDA) to have a glimer of hope.

Healthcare should be based on outcomes. Cases are made by doctors who pay megabucks for malpractice insurance. That's silly! Doctor's are human and like the rest of us, well, they make mistakes. When doing no harm meant something, a lot less was known, however, now our health is dictated by lawyers and insurers. The doctors just document everything.

How nice would it be to go to the doctor for a checkup and pay $50-$100. directly to the doctor.

Insurance should be for a catastrophy, but it's what we have in general today.
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Old 11-25-2003, 01:28 PM   #6
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obviously we should become a socialist republic, the same healthcare for everone. just like cuba
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Old 11-26-2003, 08:16 AM   #7
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chris wrote:
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obviously we should become a socialist republic, the same healthcare for everone. just like cuba
and all European countries?
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Old 11-26-2003, 12:01 PM   #8
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Old 11-28-2003, 12:26 AM   #9
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NYC wrote:
Ahh the American medical system. I've had an earache for about three weeks now. The first time I can get in to see my doctor is Dec. 8.

It has since spread down my ear canal towards my jaw. Ibuprofen doesn't relieve it. Definately an infection.

Having an earache for the better part of a month and not being able to see your doctor kind of bites. But that's NYC's HMO's for you....

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NYC I am really sorry about this ailment. I totally agree, but can you go to an ER for relief? See an internist first or an ENT doc. At least WebMD might offer some suggestions. Feel better!
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