london calling!

[xfox]

I am thinking good things about the British and wish them well in their task of reconstruction.

Men are competent. Men who allow women to contribute in their culture and don't force feminine support will be more successful.

The exception to the rule: homocide bombers. What a bunch of losers.

[craig johnston]

and this is equally appalling.

how someone could knowingly target children is completely outside
of my understanding. nothing can justify that.
i am left dismayed by my fellow human beings.

[venusupnorth]

Originally Posted by craig johnston

and this is equally appalling.

how someone could knowingly target children is completely outside
of my understanding. nothing can justify that.
i am left dismayed by my fellow human beings.

I just read that a while ago and still have a bad taste in my mouth. Why are these people so saddistic and lost?

[Max Headroom]

Originally Posted by venusupnorth

I just read that a while ago and still have a bad taste in my mouth. Why are these people so saddistic and lost?

They are provoking a retaliation....

Get the big evil occupiers to retailate and you will have more and more people lining up behind your cause. Terrorism in itself is not about the killing of people. In relative terms, terrorism kills very few poeple in relation to many other "preventable" causes of death. Unlike the others however, it grabs much more media attention. A bomb goes off, T.V's are filed with bloody images, the public screams, the opressor attacks in retaliation, and more people become drawn in to the "fundamentalist" or "extremest" cause. It's a sick logic that works all too well in favour of those carying backpack bombs. If there was no TV, there would be no terrorism.

[venusupnorth]

What you're saying is so true Max, especially about getting the media's attention.

I just read this article and one of the London bomb suspects uncle speaks out. He's in shock and can't comprehend how this happened. I feel bad for the terrorists families, they are made to suffer while the terrorist himself is gone

Read the Article

[Avalon]

What has always escaped me is how they can live here ( or anywhere they claim to despise ), enjoy the freedoms of said country, sometimes for many years. They work, socialize, have friends, and build a life in country that welcomed them and their culture. Then they destroy the entire thing. And in this case, leaving even family to wonder why.

It is probably just me, but somehow I have always thought that living here would change their minds, much in the same way that just watching video of the Middle East had made me grateful I didn't live there.

[craig johnston]

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

If there was no TV, there would be no terrorism.

not quite true there max. it depends what you call terrorism, but i think
that kidnapping and bombing civilians count, in which case both tactics
were used by the i.r.a. and the zionists way before tv. what was the
boston tea party by the way?
the word has been twisted so much that it has almost lost it's meaning.
it is amazing that bush can talk about 'the war on terrorism'. terrorism is
a tactic, not a state or set of ideas.

[craig johnston]

just read this



why can't these people see that they are reacting in just the way
the bombers wanted?

[Saxifrage]

Originally Posted by craig johnston

not quite true there max. it depends what you call terrorism, but i think
that kidnapping and bombing civilians count, in which case both tactics
were used by the i.r.a. and the zionists way before tv. what was the
boston tea party by the way?
the word has been twisted so much that it has almost lost it's meaning.
it is amazing that bush can talk about 'the war on terrorism'. terrorism is
a tactic, not a state or set of ideas.

Terrorism is an abstract concept, most of what is labeled terrorism I consider to be guerilla warfare, non-traditional combat. If a group lacks numbers or resources comparable to their opponent they adopt a hit and run strategy. I suppose that attacks specifically directed at civiliians to inspire fear in them is terrorism, but the terrorism is not the whole, it is a strategy that is utilised.

The targeting of civilians is what really gets me, the commuters where simply normal working stiffs about their daily business. What have they got to do with whatever grudge is held against our governments. They have no real say in the way their nations are governed, does Tony Blair take the Underground?

Every civil liberty we sacrifice, every innocent muslim who is abused, every draconian securtiy measure and interogation technique we carry out is a victory for these radical muslims we call Al-Queda The challenge of democracy is to defend it's people while protecting their fundamental rights at the same time. The attacks have been an attack on our freedoms as well and that is a battle we are losing.

[Con ate dog]

Craig, due to the Chiinese censor filter, I can't read BBC articles here. So maybe these contradict the point I'm about to make.

I've finally started to see, in British and American government releases, a distinction between terrorists and Arabs, between Jihad and Islam. If they'd taken this approach from the start the world would be much safer.

Of course, that language makes it a law enforcement issue: individuals and underground organisations, rather than geopolitical forces. And how could Bush invade Iraq on that platform?

John McCain, you were the pearl cast before swine.