What does it all mean? - ZEFRANK.COM

xerocs · 12-17-2003, 09:15 PM

I know... depressing subject... but does anyone really stop and ever ask the question? I mean, I get up every morning and I go to work... for what? Some green pieces of paper with some dead presidents on them... half the time I never see thier faces anyway, what with everything electronically transfered these days. When i do see the money it is either to pay someone for services or to pay them back the money i borrowed at some god awful interest rate. I just feel lik e I am not doing anything... not making a difference. I am not talking about recycling either... I mean really truely doing something. Get this, the worst part is even if I was doing something i wouldn't know it and not only that I don't even have an idea what that means "make a difference". Make a difference in what? will it matter in one hundred years? will it give me reason to set my alarm at night? will it make me believe that what I am doing is the right thing? I fight for my country and I would die for my country, but who will remember? will kids study my name in fourth period and bitch about why they have to? I love a girl who will never truely give herself into love... who will never love me back the way that I love her. Will she regret the mistakes she has made when she is 80 years old and reflecting on what she did in life? Will I? I don't go to regular worship services to a diety that I can neither see no verify... will I be turn away at the pearly gates? is there a heaven? is there a god? why do this keep happening? when do you actually become truely happy? what makes you happy? what are we doing it for? what does it all mean? what does it amount to in the end?

zenbabe · 12-17-2003, 09:20 PM

I ask myself that question everyday. I am happy though. I have a wonderful husband and many great friends and lots of good times. I'm not rich (yet) but I make do with what we have. I think if you surround yourself with good people and good vibes then its a very simple recipe for happiness.

lapietra · 12-17-2003, 10:20 PM

I second zennie's prescription - Good friends that you respect and trust and can depend on (and who feel the same about you) and also finding joy in what you do are the best way to happiness...
It seems like there's no guaranteed road to making a difference in the world big enough that your name will be praised throughout the ages - obviously, it's usually because of hard work and deservedness, but luck plays a huge part, too - many who work hard and deserve to be recognised aren't - which is not to say one shouldn't do those things - but your happiness can't depend on that.
I struggle with this too... this is a difficult world and a difficult time to live in... The higher human qualities - commitment to excellence, loyalty, innate goodness, decency and honesty, and improving oneself with education and exposure to culture - don't seem to be as widely celebrated and practiced, and it makes one wonder why anyone should bother at all... But it's in my friends I find that appreciation, and, ultimately, myself.

agentsmith · 12-17-2003, 10:31 PM

mmmm.... i think theres a 1% chance of making a lasting impression. and you cant make it happen. either it will or it wont. all i have to say for myself is that i have benifited no one but myself, because there only is myself.

Coffee · 12-17-2003, 11:28 PM

xerocs...get out your blank bible and write your own meaning man.

Remember "Life of Brian"...

Brian..."Don't let anyone tell you what to think...you are all individuals"
The crowd ...."YES...WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS"

ok...so I feel like the crowd here...but yes...joy in friendships, joy in my pets, joy in my hobbies, choosing my own path regarding work even if it means drawing what someone else tell me to in order to pay the bills, definitely not worrying about whether "his story" remembers me...many of those famous folks who are remembered by "history" were assholes anyhow, or badly misquoted and used for "history's" own agenda if they weren't one of the assholes.

Today is a good day to smile...not even sure if i'll be here tommorow (I ate at McDonald's tonight

dumb dumb dumb )

It's up to YOU...Cheer up sir...the alternative is also up to YOU.

malina · 12-17-2003, 11:56 PM

someone very smart once told me "it's not what you do, it's how you do it that makes you either very happy or very unhappy" ...

i'm not very good with the big picture, i don't have answers for that. it's all pointless and a big farking joke to me. i look at the little things. when i wake up in the morning, i am very glad that i'm still alive ( that's usually my first thought ). i don't take that for granted, i appreciate being alive. i enjoy taking a very long hot shower and kind of waking up in the process. there are little things along the way that make me smile and make me happy on my way to work every day ( a beautiful sunny morning, the smell of coffee, the smell of summer, the smell of spring, the smell of rain ). i work to pay the bills and to be able to provide for my children. my children pay me back in ways that no dead president can match. i am happy about that too. i am also happy about the fact that i don't have to worry where i'm going to sleep every day and that i don't have to pick between buying new shoes for my kids and buying groceries.. i am able to do both!

no one will remember who i was since hardly anyone even knows who i am now, but i will certainly remember who i was once i'm dead and i hope to have nothing to be ashamed about when that happens. there are a couple of wonderful peole in my life and i am grateful for all the feelings associated with that - friendship, love, pain, sorrow, hope and joy .... those are the things i live for.

Klynne · 12-18-2003, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by xerocs
I know... depressing subject... but does anyone really stop and ever ask the question? I mean, I get up every morning and I go to work... for what? Some green pieces of paper with some dead presidents on them... half the time I never see thier faces anyway, what with everything electronically transfered these days. When i do see the money it is either to pay someone for services or to pay them back the money i borrowed at some god awful interest rate. I just feel lik e I am not doing anything... not making a difference. I am not talking about recycling either... I mean really truely doing something. Get this, the worst part is even if I was doing something i wouldn't know it and not only that I don't even have an idea what that means "make a difference". Make a difference in what? will it matter in one hundred years? will it give me reason to set my alarm at night? will it make me believe that what I am doing is the right thing? I fight for my country and I would die for my country, but who will remember? will kids study my name in fourth period and bitch about why they have to? I love a girl who will never truely give herself into love... who will never love me back the way that I love her. Will she regret the mistakes she has made when she is 80 years old and reflecting on what she did in life? Will I? I don't go to regular worship services to a diety that I can neither see no verify... will I be turn away at the pearly gates? is there a heaven? is there a god? why do this keep happening? when do you actually become truely happy? what makes you happy? what are we doing it for? what does it all mean? what does it amount to in the end?

The answer is simple. You make a difference in one person's life. You open a door for someone, you talk to a stranger, you smile at someone that needs it. Little things mean so much. You don't have any idea of what little things like this do to affect everyone around you. You do make a difference, you just don't see it.

masterofNone · 12-18-2003, 01:37 AM

"full of sound and fury and signifying nothing"
w. shakespeare

"nothing is insignificant"
s. coleridge

Coffee · 12-18-2003, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by malina
there are little things ... that make me smile ... the smell of coffee, .... those are the things i live for.

*Blushes*

Klynne · 12-18-2003, 01:52 AM

Oh, Coffee,

How are you and your veggies doing

Coffee · 12-18-2003, 02:21 AM

see "honor Ze post"

WE...are...OK now.

xerocs · 12-18-2003, 02:32 AM

thank you all... sometimes i just lose control and i break down... it helps to know that I am not the only one who wonders... I don't know what to say... i guess I relate to well to shannon dorihty (did i spell that right?) in mall rats.... just thanks... thank you.

Coffee · 12-18-2003, 02:38 AM

just think ... "RMR"... and the smile will come

Audreyvgs · 12-18-2003, 09:38 AM

You make the green stuff to be able to do what you want until you expire.

It sucks not doing what you want.

bealeblues · 12-18-2003, 09:45 AM

what does it all mean? i wondered that until the first time i looked in my kid's eyes and i could tell that she loved her dad....
somehow after that, while life is usually a roll of shit, it's now a roll of shit wrapped in bacon.....

12-17-2003, 09:15 PM	#1
xerocs Lurk Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rapid City, SoDak Posts: 1,341	What does it all mean? I know... depressing subject... but does anyone really stop and ever ask the question? I mean, I get up every morning and I go to work... for what? Some green pieces of paper with some dead presidents on them... half the time I never see thier faces anyway, what with everything electronically transfered these days. When i do see the money it is either to pay someone for services or to pay them back the money i borrowed at some god awful interest rate. I just feel lik e I am not doing anything... not making a difference. I am not talking about recycling either... I mean really truely doing something. Get this, the worst part is even if I was doing something i wouldn't know it and not only that I don't even have an idea what that means "make a difference". Make a difference in what? will it matter in one hundred years? will it give me reason to set my alarm at night? will it make me believe that what I am doing is the right thing? I fight for my country and I would die for my country, but who will remember? will kids study my name in fourth period and bitch about why they have to? I love a girl who will never truely give herself into love... who will never love me back the way that I love her. Will she regret the mistakes she has made when she is 80 years old and reflecting on what she did in life? Will I? I don't go to regular worship services to a diety that I can neither see no verify... will I be turn away at the pearly gates? is there a heaven? is there a god? why do this keep happening? when do you actually become truely happy? what makes you happy? what are we doing it for? what does it all mean? what does it amount to in the end?

12-17-2003, 09:20 PM	#2
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	I ask myself that question everyday. I am happy though. I have a wonderful husband and many great friends and lots of good times. I'm not rich (yet) but I make do with what we have. I think if you surround yourself with good people and good vibes then its a very simple recipe for happiness. __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

12-17-2003, 10:20 PM	#3
lapietra half baked Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: just ducky Posts: 12,078	I second zennie's prescription - Good friends that you respect and trust and can depend on (and who feel the same about you) and also finding joy in what you do are the best way to happiness... It seems like there's no guaranteed road to making a difference in the world big enough that your name will be praised throughout the ages - obviously, it's usually because of hard work and deservedness, but luck plays a huge part, too - many who work hard and deserve to be recognised aren't - which is not to say one shouldn't do those things - but your happiness can't depend on that. I struggle with this too... this is a difficult world and a difficult time to live in... The higher human qualities - commitment to excellence, loyalty, innate goodness, decency and honesty, and improving oneself with education and exposure to culture - don't seem to be as widely celebrated and practiced, and it makes one wonder why anyone should bother at all... But it's in my friends I find that appreciation, and, ultimately, myself. __________________ “As long as the world is turning and spinning, we're gonna be dizzy and we're gonna make mistakes.” ~ Mel Brooks

12-17-2003, 10:31 PM	#4
agentsmith rap geisha Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: . Posts: 5,588	mmmm.... i think theres a 1% chance of making a lasting impression. and you cant make it happen. either it will or it wont. all i have to say for myself is that i have benifited no one but myself, because there only is myself. __________________ ----------- "Genesis: First, I'd like to say reality is invisible to the naked eye. You and me both know that life is a real bitch. Doing your best, you say? That's not good enough."

12-18-2003, 09:45 AM	#15
bealeblues where's my salt? Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: finally writing Posts: 6,929	what does it all mean? i wondered that until the first time i looked in my kid's eyes and i could tell that she loved her dad.... somehow after that, while life is usually a roll of shit, it's now a roll of shit wrapped in bacon..... __________________ still jackasinine, make no mistake

12-17-2003, 11:28 PM	#5
Coffee Cheeses Save Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Floating Posts: 9,204	xerocs...get out your blank bible and write your own meaning man. Remember "Life of Brian"... Brian..."Don't let anyone tell you what to think...you are all individuals" The crowd ...."YES...WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS" ok...so I feel like the crowd here...but yes...joy in friendships, joy in my pets, joy in my hobbies, choosing my own path regarding work even if it means drawing what someone else tell me to in order to pay the bills, definitely not worrying about whether "his story" remembers me...many of those famous folks who are remembered by "history" were assholes anyhow, or badly misquoted and used for "history's" own agenda if they weren't one of the assholes. Today is a good day to smile...not even sure if i'll be here tommorow (I ate at McDonald's tonight dumb dumb dumb ) It's up to YOU...Cheer up sir...the alternative is also up to YOU.

12-17-2003, 11:56 PM	#6
malina leaving Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: up on the hill Posts: 6,013	someone very smart once told me "it's not what you do, it's how you do it that makes you either very happy or very unhappy" ... i'm not very good with the big picture, i don't have answers for that. it's all pointless and a big farking joke to me. i look at the little things. when i wake up in the morning, i am very glad that i'm still alive ( that's usually my first thought ). i don't take that for granted, i appreciate being alive. i enjoy taking a very long hot shower and kind of waking up in the process. there are little things along the way that make me smile and make me happy on my way to work every day ( a beautiful sunny morning, the smell of coffee, the smell of summer, the smell of spring, the smell of rain ). i work to pay the bills and to be able to provide for my children. my children pay me back in ways that no dead president can match. i am happy about that too. i am also happy about the fact that i don't have to worry where i'm going to sleep every day and that i don't have to pick between buying new shoes for my kids and buying groceries.. i am able to do both! no one will remember who i was since hardly anyone even knows who i am now, but i will certainly remember who i was once i'm dead and i hope to have nothing to be ashamed about when that happens. there are a couple of wonderful peole in my life and i am grateful for all the feelings associated with that - friendship, love, pain, sorrow, hope and joy .... those are the things i live for.

12-18-2003, 01:37 AM	#8
masterofNone ________ Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,131	"full of sound and fury and signifying nothing" w. shakespeare "nothing is insignificant" s. coleridge

12-18-2003, 01:52 AM	#10
Klynne monkey Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 4,543	Oh, Coffee, How are you and your veggies doing

12-18-2003, 02:21 AM	#11
Coffee Cheeses Save Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Floating Posts: 9,204	see "honor Ze post" WE...are...OK now.

12-18-2003, 02:32 AM	#12
xerocs Lurk Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rapid City, SoDak Posts: 1,341	thank you all... sometimes i just lose control and i break down... it helps to know that I am not the only one who wonders... I don't know what to say... i guess I relate to well to shannon dorihty (did i spell that right?) in mall rats.... just thanks... thank you.

12-18-2003, 02:38 AM	#13
Coffee Cheeses Save Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Floating Posts: 9,204	just think ... "RMR"... and the smile will come

12-18-2003, 09:38 AM	#14
Audreyvgs Blue's Clues Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on Yur Last Nerve, huh? Posts: 5,412	You make the green stuff to be able to do what you want until you expire. It sucks not doing what you want.

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