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Old 04-21-2004, 01:57 AM   #1
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Unhappy What happ'd to the Quotation Debate??

To arms! To arms! We need more quotation debaters! A bazillion belligerent people throughout history have said a gazillion contradictory things. Why has the Quotation Debate fizzled? It is SO swell! It’s one of my favorite ZF threads. C’mon folks!

Don’t be intimidated. I gather from some private conversations that some zemonkeys may have the mistaken impression that everyone posting to that thread has all that stuff in his/her head. Well, wouldn’t THAT be inhuman?

For those of you haven’t contributed because you’re not sure where to begin, here’s are some tips to get started:

Bartleby.com has three searchable quotation databases in its "Reference" section -- Bartlett’s, Simpson’s, and the Columbia Book of Quotations. The latter is by far the best. Search for words or themes from the last post.

EXAMPLES:

Sky blue posts the following:

“No matter how smart you are, you spend much of your day being an idiot.”
- Scott Adams


You can search for all sorts of things to find a sharp retort to this. Smart and idiot, of course, but also anything on that theme: Intelligence, stupidity, foolishness, “passing time,” etc. Perky Pat came up with this rejoinder:

“Man is a clever animal who behaves like an imbecile.”
--albert schweitze


Keywords for a response could be Behave, clever, sharp, imbecile, fool, man… (the possibilities are endless.) MasterofNone quoted the Bard:

“I had rather have a fool make me merry, than experience make me sad.”
--William Shakespeare


You might look up Merriment, experience, preferences, sadness, the blues. Hyakujo's Fox, who is quite the existentialist, came up with a surreal rejoinder from Camus. None of us have any idea what he meant by it:

“In the depth of winter, I finally learned that there was within me an invincible summer.”
--Albert Camus


Not knowing what the fark HF is talking about, I ponder what kind of metaphor this is, and searching Columbia’s Quotations for “metaphor,” I find this:

“A good metaphor is something even the police should keep an eye on.”
--G.C. (Georg Christoph) Lichtenberg


Now the argument heats up: Hyakujo's Fox takes umbrage at my snipe and searches for quotations regarding metaphors and posts this snappy comeback:

“People who speak in metaphors should shampoo my crotch.”
--Jack Nicholson


There’s fertile subject matter here for the debate to continue: crotch, genitalia, shampoo, soap, cleanliness. A quick search uncovers what seems like a sensible response:

“Take a commonplace, clean it and polish it, light it so that it produces the same effect of youth and freshness and originality and spontaneity as it did originally, and you have done a poet’s job.”
--Jean Cocteau


See? A perfectly sensible and somewhat entertaining conversation, not always civil, is well underway, and anyone can join in.

There are lots of other resources, too. If a quotation reminds you of a song, and you don’t know all the words, just Google the parts you know. (A search for <“put up a parking lot” “Joni Mitchell” lyrics> will bring up the whole song; A Google search for brain scarecrow “Wizard of Oz” screenplay> will bring up the exact dialogue from the movie and tell you what the L. in the author’s name stands for.)

Anyone wanna take a stab?
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Old 04-21-2004, 02:14 AM   #2
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everyone is too intimidated to respond
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Old 04-21-2004, 02:17 AM   #3
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nononono! That's just the point. There's no reason to be intimidated. It's fun. Dive in! pleeeeeze?
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Old 04-21-2004, 02:53 AM   #4
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Hee!! I'm just kidding. I think of the quotation debate and the image association thread as being very similar ... both are wonderful! I love seeing what people come up with... man I laugh really hard sometimes.

OK you've convinced me, will see you over there
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Old 04-21-2004, 03:10 AM   #5
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Yay!!
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I busted my quotation cherry! I don't know who Bovee is, but dammit I quoted him/her!
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Old 04-21-2004, 03:10 AM   #7
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okay.. well.. I just tried it.. it was kinda fun..
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Old 04-21-2004, 04:43 AM   #8
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Well, Mr. SP, you’ve convinced this monkey. I even have a cool url for you: http://www.quoteland.com/

(gleaned from refdesk.com)

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Old 04-21-2004, 04:53 AM   #9
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okay… your link is infinitely better.
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Old 04-21-2004, 05:01 AM   #10
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Well, Mr. SP, you’ve convinced this monkey. I even have a cool url for you: http://www.quoteland.com/

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cheerio.
Totally cool. That's going in my bookmarks.
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Old 04-21-2004, 06:40 AM   #11
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Old 04-21-2004, 07:09 AM   #12
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theres your cock ass quotation debate
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Old 04-21-2004, 09:22 AM   #13
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are these the latest queer newlyweds in the USA?
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Old 04-21-2004, 01:58 PM   #14
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Who said dat? Francis Bacon? Winston Churchill? Lena Horne?
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Old 04-21-2004, 02:09 PM   #15
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We are the keepers of the sacred words: Ni, Ping, and Neeee-wommmm! - Monty Python's Holy Grail
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Knight 1: We are now no longer the Knights who say "Ni".
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Knight 1: We are now the Knights who say.... "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!"
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