Rumsfeld gets ripped a new one - ZEFRANK.COM

Audreyvgs · 05-07-2004, 01:59 PM

God this was good to watch.

Avalon · 05-07-2004, 02:08 PM

Not just a slap on the wrist and go stand in the corner this time?
Basically that is all the army gave out for torturing the prisoners

So their careers are over..BFD. Should have court marshalled them. You can get a CM for having an affair, for crying outloud!!

Audreyvgs · 05-07-2004, 03:38 PM

I thought Kennedy would do it, but he didn't have enough time!!!!

Klynne · 05-07-2004, 05:39 PM

Yes, this does not suprise me. Having had the benefit of working for the Federal Government for a few years nothing suprises me. The Secretary of any cabinet level department has two jobs. One is to make the President look good. The second is to keep all bad news from the President. It is their job to mitigate the problem, and then say to the President "Yes, there was this problem, and I solved it." Did Rumsfield cover this up? Yes, and no. He was probably trying to do damage control, and someone leaked this information out to the press. I predict he will resign, however I don't feel too sorry for him. He knew the risks involved when he took the job. He knew, as all Secretaries know, when the chips are down, it is his/her ass on the platter. The President relies on these people to take the heat off him, and be the scape goat. That's politics!

Kind of reminds me of Oliver North (although he was not a Secretary) and the Iran Contra Scandal.

It is a crime what a few individuals in the military did, and I hope these folks are punished. However, I wish the world would react in a similar way when civilian workers are burned to death and have their bodies desecrated by hostile mobs. But, I guess westerners don't count, and their lives don't mean as much? Sad state of affairs in the world as a whole.

Smartypants · 05-07-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Klynne
I wish the world would react in a similar way when civilian workers are burned to death and have their bodies desecrated by hostile mobs. But, I guess westerners don't count, and their lives don't mean as much? Sad state of affairs in the world as a whole.

I hardly think that "westerners don't count, and their lives don't mean as much," but you might bear in mind that the westerners who were lynched were in Iraq during what is seen by many Iraqis as an occupation. There's a big difference, whether or not one is horrified by the action. As one Iraqi interviewed said about the prisoner abuse, "How would Americans react it Iraqi soldiers tortured American prisoners on U.S. soil?" (To paraphrase John Stewart on the Daily Show: "Well, we would probably bomb the the sh*t out of them.")

There really is no two-wrongs-make-a-right here.

masterofNone · 05-07-2004, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Klynne
I wish the world would react in a similar way when civilian workers are burned to death and have their bodies desecrated by hostile mobs. But, I guess westerners don't count, and their lives don't mean as much? Sad state of affairs in the world as a whole.

I think the world is reacting pretty appropriately. It's one thing for a mob to behave in cruel and inhumane ways. we expect that sort of behavior from a mob. a mob is a mindless, out of control phenomenon. the military of a country that projects itself into the world as a moral authority is another kettle of fish. we assume that, in a civilized society, such behavior is not tolerated in the ranks of our military or our government. so, i think the reaction to both incidents is about right.

Klynne · 05-07-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Smartypants
I hardly think that "westerners don't count, and their lives don't mean as much," but you might bear in mind that the westerners who were lynched were in Iraq during what is seen by many Iraqis as an occupation. There's a big difference, whether or not one is horrified by the action. As one Iraqi interviewed said about the prisoner abuse, "How would Americans react it Iraqi soldiers tortured American prisoners on U.S. soil?" (To paraphrase John Stewart on the Daily Show: "Well, we would probably bomb the the sh*t out of them.")

There really is no two-wrongs-make-a-right here.

I hardly think of civilain contractors as military. Some of these folks were working to help the people of Iraq. However, I guess you have a point.

Smartypants · 05-07-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Klynne
I hardly think of civilain contractors as military.

You're right! Some of them are CIA!

Smartypants · 05-07-2004, 08:28 PM

Speaking of answering questions in front of Congress...

lapietra · 05-07-2004, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Smartypants
Speaking of answering questions in front of Congress...

Wow! That was fascinating... it was funny but it really makes you think...

god I love accents... *sigh*

Magpie · 05-08-2004, 02:01 AM

My hair looks like that some mornings.

Yaesss or Nooooo heh

Smartypants · 05-09-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by lapietra
god I love accents... *sigh*

After about a month on zefrank.com, I started using the word "farking" inadvertently in offline conversation. I think I am going to switch to "fookin'." (At least in online posts.) Sounds better, don't you think, Lala?

special K · 05-15-2004, 04:48 PM

I'm bored gimmie a second.

special K · 05-15-2004, 04:55 PM

Donald Rumsfeld Claims Super Powers

Friday, May 14, 2004

Washington, D.C. -- During a Pentagon Press Conference convened to present
conclusions of the just-completed quadrennial review of U.S. military capacity
and strategies, U.S. Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld (pictured below)
revealed that the US military will not pursue a missile defence program after all.

"We now have no need for the defence program, it is better for us to dedicate all our
capabilities for our development of my super powers," Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld spoke.
"We are ready to be transparent and ....

.. I CAN SHOOT LASERS OUT OF MY FINGERS!"

Feelings around the Pentagon are mixed and outright confused. However, many are now
doubting Rumsfelds abilities; and attempts to confront him have been met with ill will.
When asked by a reporter if he was feeling ok, the Secretary of Defence attempted to
destroy him with palm-sized fire balls.

"We just don't know what's gotten into him. It's like he just went completely crazy.
I almost shit my pants when he started trying his mind magic on us." Lt. Cmdr.
Donald Sewell, a Pentagon spokesman.

President Bush, confused and bewildered, was reluctant to comment.
"He (Bush) was really quiet, he seemed to be trying really hard to be nonchalant,
and leaned over to me and asked if i thought Rumsfeld was being serious or not."
a reporter tells FOX NEWS.

"TERRORIST AND NON-BELIEVERS BEWARE OR I WILL CRUSH
YOUR HEAD WITH MY MIND POWERS WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM"

Rumsfeld then ended the conference by attempting to fly away. Amidst the gasps and laughter,

an unidentified bystander was heard to yell out:
"COME ON RUMMY YOU CAN DO IT!"

Fox News' Asasdnie Jerfaopcaokolopa contributed to this report.

agentsmith · 05-15-2004, 05:10 PM

HAHHAHA

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Audreyvgs Blue's Clues Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on Yur Last Nerve, huh? Posts: 5,412	I thought Kennedy would do it, but he didn't have enough time!!!!

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Klynne monkey Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 4,543	Yes, this does not suprise me. Having had the benefit of working for the Federal Government for a few years nothing suprises me. The Secretary of any cabinet level department has two jobs. One is to make the President look good. The second is to keep all bad news from the President. It is their job to mitigate the problem, and then say to the President "Yes, there was this problem, and I solved it." Did Rumsfield cover this up? Yes, and no. He was probably trying to do damage control, and someone leaked this information out to the press. I predict he will resign, however I don't feel too sorry for him. He knew the risks involved when he took the job. He knew, as all Secretaries know, when the chips are down, it is his/her ass on the platter. The President relies on these people to take the heat off him, and be the scape goat. That's politics! Kind of reminds me of Oliver North (although he was not a Secretary) and the Iran Contra Scandal. It is a crime what a few individuals in the military did, and I hope these folks are punished. However, I wish the world would react in a similar way when civilian workers are burned to death and have their bodies desecrated by hostile mobs. But, I guess westerners don't count, and their lives don't mean as much? Sad state of affairs in the world as a whole.

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Smartypants MR. Smartypants to you. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oh, YOU PEOPLE go ahead and call it "Frisco." See if I care. Posts: 3,967	Speaking of answering questions in front of Congress...

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special K askldjnasd fde Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 99	Donald Rumsfeld Claims Super Powers Friday, May 14, 2004 Washington, D.C. -- During a Pentagon Press Conference convened to present conclusions of the just-completed quadrennial review of U.S. military capacity and strategies, U.S. Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld (pictured below) revealed that the US military will not pursue a missile defence program after all. "We now have no need for the defence program, it is better for us to dedicate all our capabilities for our development of my super powers," Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld spoke. "We are ready to be transparent and .... .. I CAN SHOOT LASERS OUT OF MY FINGERS!" Feelings around the Pentagon are mixed and outright confused. However, many are now doubting Rumsfelds abilities; and attempts to confront him have been met with ill will. When asked by a reporter if he was feeling ok, the Secretary of Defence attempted to destroy him with palm-sized fire balls. "We just don't know what's gotten into him. It's like he just went completely crazy. I almost shit my pants when he started trying his mind magic on us." Lt. Cmdr. Donald Sewell, a Pentagon spokesman. President Bush, confused and bewildered, was reluctant to comment. "He (Bush) was really quiet, he seemed to be trying really hard to be nonchalant, and leaned over to me and asked if i thought Rumsfeld was being serious or not." a reporter tells FOX NEWS. "TERRORIST AND NON-BELIEVERS BEWARE OR I WILL CRUSH YOUR HEAD WITH MY MIND POWERS WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM" Rumsfeld then ended the conference by attempting to fly away. Amidst the gasps and laughter, an unidentified bystander was heard to yell out: "COME ON RUMMY YOU CAN DO IT!" Fox News' Asasdnie Jerfaopcaokolopa contributed to this report.