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11-11-2004, 06:16 PM
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Lollypop!
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Privacy Experts Shun Black Boxes
Friday, September 10, 2004 By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos WASHINGTON — Some safety and privacy experts are reacting with apprehension, others with all out condemnation over a recent ruling by the National Transportation Safety Board (search) to require electronic data recorders or "black boxes" in all new cars manufactured in the United States. "I take offense that this personal property of individuals is now being designed by the federal government," said Jim Harper, privacy attorney and editor of Privacilla.org. Black boxes (search), or "EDRs" have been fitted into every General Motors car in its 2004 line and is in a number of Ford models — about 15 percent of all vehicles on the road today, according to road safety experts. EDRs are certainly not new. Information gathered on black boxes — typically everything from speed, brake pressure, seat belt use and air bag deployment — has already been used in determining guilt in criminal and civil cases across the country. Proponents, including the NTSB and road safety advocates, say the data collected on these black boxes is valuable for studying how accidents happen and how to make roads and cars safer. EDR data has been used for years to fine tune air bag efficiency.
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11-11-2004, 08:29 PM
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Key Lime Pie rocks!!!
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As long as it wasn't connected to any kind of GPS or other tracking unit it may prove useful.
However, since there is the opportunity for abuse and since our government never turns down the opportunity to abuse, I'd say nix on this idea... |
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11-11-2004, 11:43 PM
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rap geisha
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woah...i hope they dont go through with it.
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11-11-2004, 11:49 PM
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Post office did the BlackBox thing 10 years ago. Wanted to keep track of every stop and how long every mail truck was stopped. Their experiment ended up biting them in the ass and had to be suspended due to privacy and accuracy issues.
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11-12-2004, 12:58 AM
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Lollypop!
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watch...they will probably tie it into the Patriot Act or something....
When I was in Az and at that crappy dealership...I was talking to the owner...he had just come back from a conference dealing with 'terrorism and car dealerships"  Turns out, the Patriot Act is tied in, anyone that buys a car, there name has to be compared to a 'list' of names, if you name is on the 'list' you will be watched to make sure it isn't a money laundering sceme that would fund terrorism.... yeah...........
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11-12-2004, 04:26 AM
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I would scoff and say, "Oh, EDR my ass!", but I don't want to give them any more ideas.
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