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zenbabe · 06-23-2005, 07:59 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) - A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses against their will for private development in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic growth often is at war with individual property rights.

Holy Fvck!

Willow Sylph · 06-23-2005, 08:10 PM

Yikes. That seems so unconstitutional.

venusupnorth · 06-23-2005, 08:22 PM

Here in Iceland they have like a 70 year property rights for the owner of a new home, when that runs out though the government can either renew it or take the land back. That story does sound alot like what Bush is accomplishing in office, taking away all the rights Americans can enjoy????

Willow Sylph · 06-23-2005, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by venusupnorth

Here in Iceland they have like a 70 year property rights for the owner of a new home, when that runs out though the government can either renew it or take the land back. That story does sound alot like what Bush is accomplishing in office, taking away all the rights Americans can enjoy????

They can "take it back?" Do they give the land/property owner some money for that?

venusupnorth · 06-23-2005, 09:04 PM

Yes you get the full value of the condition of the home and the fire insurance. People never come out in a minus situation, they take everything into consideration like the kind of floors, bathroom, kitchen and windows you have.
The only reason I know this is because I bought a 50 yr. old apartment a few years ago and checked out the property rights before I signed for it.

At least we have it written legally here in Iceland and know what we're getting into. Those people should get double the value for their homes since they didn't know it was coming

zenbabe · 06-23-2005, 09:06 PM

The problem is alot of these homes are waterfront properties that have been in peoples families for generations.

They will never get the full value of their home.

Phizer just won this for the country.

bealeblues · 06-23-2005, 09:16 PM

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New London officials countered that the private development plans served a public purpose of boosting economic growth that outweighed the homeowners' property rights, even if the area wasn't blighted.

this is an interesting expansion on the concept of eminant domain-- private development that serves a public purpose. i don't agree with this at all and i'm surprised at the ruling

Gatsby · 06-23-2005, 09:19 PM

Eminent domain.

My private alma mater is incahoots with the city here. The city is condemning my favorite head shop, among other thriving businesses, that refused to sell out when the university offered.

Then the city's going to sell the properties to the university so it can tear them all down and make a visitor-friendly facade.

Pshaw. Love my university, hate their dirty politics.

venusupnorth · 06-23-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zenbabe

The problem is alot of these homes are waterfront properties that have been in peoples families for generations.

They will never get the full value of their home.

Phizer just won this for the country.

I know it's sad. Talking about Iceland again, we have laws that protect property that is over a hundred years old and in good condition, then it becomes a historical site.

I'm starting to think the sword is double sided when it comes to Americans and their property rights, people will hopefull protest this and get the ruling reversed.

Gatsby · 06-23-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bealeblues

this is an interesting expansion on the concept of eminant domain-- private development that serves a public purpose. i don't agree with this at all and i'm surprised at the ruling

Yup, here they're doing it under a city directive that provides for "neighborhood revitalization."

See, if the city determines that a neighborhood is indeed in need of revitalization, it can condemn otherwise good, profitable businesses as it sees fit. Then it can use those condemned properties for whatever use it wants, including selling it to OTHER private parties (e.g. a private university).

Everyone here is pretty pissed about it.

bealeblues · 06-23-2005, 09:26 PM

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Eminent domain.

oh shut up, i've had a long day. you act like you're studying for the bar exam or something.

Gatsby · 06-23-2005, 09:33 PM

Hey, look, just because you live in a civil law jurisdiction and wouldn't know eminent domain from imminent disaster doesn't mean you can bust my chops, Bealezebub.

bealeblues · 06-23-2005, 09:37 PM

i can bust your chops anytime i want, slacksby, and i won't even begin to sweat over it. so the one time (in HOW LONG?) you find a damn spelling error and you tapdance all over it? don't think i won't be watching everything you even breathe on for the slightest error....

Gatsby · 06-23-2005, 09:42 PM

Oh, I'm not worried. My law school was vastly superiour to yours, purple-and-yellow boy.

bealeblues · 06-23-2005, 09:47 PM

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Oh, I'm not worried. My law school was vastly superiour to yours, purple-and-yellow boy

vastly 'superior', don't you mean? i'm very convinced of that since you can't de-british an elementary word....

and refresh my memory, didn't LSU bitchslap OU last time they played? and for that big crystal football at that?

06-23-2005, 07:59 PM	#1
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	SWEET JESUS!!!! WASHINGTON (AP) - A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses against their will for private development in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic growth often is at war with individual property rights. Holy Fvck! __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

06-23-2005, 08:10 PM	#2
Willow Sylph monkey Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,608	Yikes. That seems so unconstitutional. __________________ Knight 1: We are now no longer the Knights who say "Ni". Knight 2: NI! Other Knights: Shh.... Knight 1: We are now the Knights who say.... "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!"

06-23-2005, 08:22 PM	#3
venusupnorth I'm leaving tomorrow! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Zoo Posts: 726	Here in Iceland they have like a 70 year property rights for the owner of a new home, when that runs out though the government can either renew it or take the land back. That story does sound alot like what Bush is accomplishing in office, taking away all the rights Americans can enjoy???? __________________ "What you risk reveals what you value." —Jeanette Winterson

06-23-2005, 09:04 PM	#5
venusupnorth I'm leaving tomorrow! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Zoo Posts: 726	Yes you get the full value of the condition of the home and the fire insurance. People never come out in a minus situation, they take everything into consideration like the kind of floors, bathroom, kitchen and windows you have. The only reason I know this is because I bought a 50 yr. old apartment a few years ago and checked out the property rights before I signed for it. At least we have it written legally here in Iceland and know what we're getting into. Those people should get double the value for their homes since they didn't know it was coming __________________ "What you risk reveals what you value." —Jeanette Winterson

06-23-2005, 09:06 PM	#6
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	The problem is alot of these homes are waterfront properties that have been in peoples families for generations. They will never get the full value of their home. Phizer just won this for the country. __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

06-23-2005, 09:19 PM	#8
Gatsby I used to be a girl Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,152	Eminent domain. My private alma mater is incahoots with the city here. The city is condemning my favorite head shop, among other thriving businesses, that refused to sell out when the university offered. Then the city's going to sell the properties to the university so it can tear them all down and make a visitor-friendly facade. Pshaw. Love my university, hate their dirty politics.

06-23-2005, 09:33 PM	#12
Gatsby I used to be a girl Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,152	Hey, look, just because you live in a civil law jurisdiction and wouldn't know eminent domain from imminent disaster doesn't mean you can bust my chops, Bealezebub.

06-23-2005, 09:37 PM	#13
bealeblues where's my salt? Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: finally writing Posts: 6,929	i can bust your chops anytime i want, slacksby, and i won't even begin to sweat over it. so the one time (in HOW LONG?) you find a damn spelling error and you tapdance all over it? don't think i won't be watching everything you even breathe on for the slightest error.... __________________ still jackasinine, make no mistake

06-23-2005, 09:42 PM	#14
Gatsby I used to be a girl Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,152	Oh, I'm not worried. My law school was vastly superiour to yours, purple-and-yellow boy.

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