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masterofNone · 01-21-2003, 07:59 PM

hmmmm

Red Princess · 01-21-2003, 08:03 PM

If you do it MoN , I will sign

masterofNone · 01-21-2003, 09:02 PM

No sense re-inventing the wheel....

http://www.votenowar.org/

http://www.noiraqattack.org/

http://www.moveon.org/nowar/

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

get active.

amanda · 01-22-2003, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masterofNone
The White house is already pretty set in their ways.

There are other targets of opportunity for emails that would be more effective. For example...

The op-ed pages of every newspaper.

Every Democratic congressman with a not so veiled threat laying out creative and effective methods to assure they don't get re-elected if they don't speak out against the war.

I mean, you've got to aim at someone who has power and has not already sold their soul.

:applauding:
you are absolutely right, mon.

All the peace protests, cardboard effigies, and flag burning in the world are not going to change the minds of those who are waltzing down the money trail, which zenbabe and Mon have kindly laid out for us.

BUT, the power through estblished mediums- op-eds, politicians in power RIGHT NOW, businesses with the money RIGHT NOW, the press as it is AT THIS MOMENT are our only avenues for change.

We are playing an international game of chess, boys and girls. It's a game that we will lose if we continue with our current strategies.

What are we gonna do about it?

zenbabe · 01-22-2003, 12:29 AM

IMPEACH!!

amanda · 01-22-2003, 12:32 AM

On what grounds?

That he's a moron?

zenbabe · 01-22-2003, 12:54 AM

Here Here! Throw in lack of evidence and no grounds for a war except personal gain.

masterofNone · 01-22-2003, 01:10 AM

yeah, well if you can get impeached for getting a hummer in the oval office, you should get impeached for leading America into an unethical war.

Madmack · 01-22-2003, 01:10 AM

Idiocy is not ground for impeachment...
I think fellatio is though...

Seriously though,the interesting part is that the administration's approval rating is still high...
Who exactly are these 'folks' that are polled to make up the rating..?

zenbabe · 01-22-2003, 01:22 AM

Texan's

zenbabe · 01-22-2003, 01:25 AM

*sniff*

Madmack · 01-22-2003, 01:28 AM

It's true...

masterofNone · 01-22-2003, 01:34 AM

The only thing keeping me sane these days is watching the approval rating drop. From 62% to 57% in the last month.

5%... I'll take 5%.

zenbabe · 01-22-2003, 01:48 AM

"Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment."
—Interview with the New York Times, Jan. 14, 2001

Frieda · 01-22-2003, 05:51 AM

i think the biggest problem is that there's almost nothing the american people can do about this whole situation. this is what al quaeda says too, if you don't want a war and don't agree with what your government does, stand up against your government. the problem is, that you try, but it isn't working, because no one will listen, the plans have already been made. the opinion of the people of america doesn't matter anymore. one man's in charge, not the people. shouldn't be like that in a democracy..

01-21-2003, 08:03 PM	#2
Red Princess thread soiler Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: san diego Posts: 4,810	If you do it MoN , I will sign __________________ snarky peep

01-22-2003, 12:29 AM	#5
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	IMPEACH!! __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

01-22-2003, 12:54 AM	#7
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	Here Here! Throw in lack of evidence and no grounds for a war except personal gain. __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

01-22-2003, 01:10 AM	#9
Madmack ..it just started... Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: About where I need to be... Posts: 1,022	Idiocy is not ground for impeachment... I think fellatio is though... Seriously though,the interesting part is that the administration's approval rating is still high... Who exactly are these 'folks' that are polled to make up the rating..? __________________ 'I feel sorry for people who don't drink. They wake up in the morning and that's the best they're going to feel all day.' Dean Martin World Travel Tips

01-22-2003, 01:22 AM	#10
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	Texan's __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

01-21-2003, 07:59 PM	#1
masterofNone ________ Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,131	hmmmm

01-21-2003, 09:02 PM	#3
masterofNone ________ Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,131	No sense re-inventing the wheel.... http://www.votenowar.org/ http://www.noiraqattack.org/ http://www.moveon.org/nowar/ http://www.stopwar.org.uk/ get active.

01-22-2003, 12:32 AM	#6
amanda old s'cool Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,426	On what grounds? That he's a moron?

01-22-2003, 01:25 AM	#11
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	sniff __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

01-22-2003, 01:28 AM	#12
Madmack ..it just started... Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: About where I need to be... Posts: 1,022	It's true... __________________ 'I feel sorry for people who don't drink. They wake up in the morning and that's the best they're going to feel all day.' Dean Martin World Travel Tips

01-22-2003, 01:34 AM	#13
masterofNone ________ Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,131	The only thing keeping me sane these days is watching the approval rating drop. From 62% to 57% in the last month. 5%... I'll take 5%.

01-22-2003, 01:48 AM	#14
zenbabe Lollypop! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: we are all made of stars Posts: 11,690	"Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment." —Interview with the New York Times, Jan. 14, 2001 __________________ Be yourself, because the people that mind don't matter, and the people that matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

01-22-2003, 05:51 AM	#15
Frieda in limbo Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 19,503	i think the biggest problem is that there's almost nothing the american people can do about this whole situation. this is what al quaeda says too, if you don't want a war and don't agree with what your government does, stand up against your government. the problem is, that you try, but it isn't working, because no one will listen, the plans have already been made. the opinion of the people of america doesn't matter anymore. one man's in charge, not the people. shouldn't be like that in a democracy.. __________________ zoek waar je wil, maar het zit in jezelf oh yeah

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