Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move22

From zefrank

Please register your vote for or against anti-voting:

I'm going to try to explain this...please correct me if I have it wrong.

Anti-voting is designed to be used by someone who must vote early due to time zone differences (what...you don't want to get up at 4am to vote on the Fabuloso chess move??!!!).

If you anti-vote during a move, that's all you can do. You can anti-vote as many suggestions as you want...but you can NOT post a positive vote and and anti-note the same day.

The result of this is that you wind up supporting all moves you don't anti-vote for. 87 suggested it counts as a -1 vote...but I think a clearer explanation is that it counts as a 0 for the anti-voted move and +1 for every move not anti-voted. This lets early voters throw support behind moves that haven't been proposed yet vs. moves they can see they don't like.

However, while it might be easier for the person casting the vote, it will make it much more difficult for the person who has to tally the votes.

Hopefully that explains it. What say ye now?

In favor of anti-voting

1. VOTE by DavidHowell: 66.25.84.113 17:39, 27 July 2006 (PDT) Obviously If all are allowed to either vote or anti-vote there's no danger of a late entry pulling the gold without any actual votes for it. It solely allows for early voters to vote against a potentially vote winning move that they disagree with. Do you guys really not understand such a simple dynamic? It wouldn't count a vote toward all other moves just away from the one or many moves a voter doesn't want to occur.

• the problem i see with this is that once the early voter is done "anti-voting" and leaves, any move that's posted afterward is automatically supported by the anti-voter even if it sucks.

1. ANTI-VOTE by He who says zonk 21:26, 27 July 2006 (PDT) - Where does this end? Right now we can vote multiple times, does that mean you would also anti-vote multiple times? If you don't like a move, you indicate this by simply not voting for it, the whole reason for the multi-vote system is so you can vote for all the moves that don't suck.

Against anti-voting

1. VOTE by Jeff 16:27, 27 July 2006 (PDT): Seems like a lot of extra editing to me for no apparenty benefit.
2. VOTE by MJTisMe23 16:50, 27 July 2006 (PDT): I can't believe we have to vote for something so pointless. We already get to vote for as many moves as we want. Just don't vote for the move(s) that you don't like, and watch democracy in action.
3. VOTE by Geedubber 16:51, 27 July 2006 (PDT): Creates more work for the guy who has to tally the votes
4. VOTE by Speed8ump 17:12, 27 July 2006 (PDT): I don't usually vote, but this is bad. It sets the stage for the Fabuloso chess version of EBay sniping. Late entries can win the vote specifically because they aren't debated
5. VOTE by Jes ter23 : This can get too confusing. If they want to vote for everything, except a certain move, they should say just that.
6. VOTE by --MalteseFalcon 18:49, 27 July 2006 (PDT): I just think it's dumb.
7. VOTE by Theroachman 19:13, 27 July 2006 (PDT) anti-voting is a way to prevent late-added suggested moves of not getting any chance to win the vote. Maybe we should find an alternative, so any move worth pondering over is added much quicker than they are now. Also, I'm worried about 'go with the flow' votes (ie voting for the move with the most votes). Maybe someone should look into some sort of wikipoll software for this purpose?
8. VOTE by bitBender 22:39, 27 July 2006 (EDT): I don't think what antivoting is, is well enough defined or capable or working in a manual vote.
9. VOTE by Snark 19:49, 27 July 2006 (PDT): I leave the Wiki all day and this what you guys come up with? :-)
10. VOTE by PTWhipplebang 20:41, 27 July 2006 (PDT): This seems way too complicated.
11. VOTE by SaintPeter 20:57, 27 July 2006 (PDT) Ain't Broke, don't fix. Take the time to vote FOR all the other moves.
12. VOTE by --Cubzas 21:03, 27 July 2006 (PDT): Too complicated
13. VOTE by Otis 21:42, 27 July 2006 (PDT): All of the above.
14. VOTE by AdamD: I haven't even bothered to vote for a move yet. Anti-voting would make it even less likely that I will.
15. VOTE by Miffed 21:37, 28 July 2006 (PDT): Crimony! Can we just play chess please.
16. VOTE by mayorcj^SR 12:48, 29 July 2006 (PDT): SEE TODAY'S SHOW! COMPLICATED!

Still deciding

1. VOTE by bobbie_mac^{rap at me} 18:31, 27 July 2006 (PDT): I 'anti-vote' anti-voting.Now that I see the new explanation, I get it. If those who are doing the tally agree to the extra work I'm willing to vote for anti-voting.