Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Winners' Circle

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Consolation Prize

Most Fabuloso Player

  • Point of Order: Isn't it a bit premature to be be voting for MVP? I thought that traditionally you waited until AFTER the game was over to chose your MVP. Trust me, I'll be back here to vote for it then. - SaintPeter 20:02, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  • Both the consolation prize discussion and this discussion belong on a new page and not on this page regarding Move 27. Could the author please put this somewhere else? medwardstalk
  • Furthermore, other than Arc I don't recognize any of the current major names, people seem to vaguely remember ßrigaderant because he went out with a bang. When we started there was a LOT of work put in to make the pages readable and useful by a variety of people. In comparison I was only slightly frustrated by Edit Conflicts lately while there were times that I'd just let the page cool down in early times. ßrigaderant contributed a lot of analysis, but it was often in opposition to several other major contributors. I'll exclude myself out of bias and the fact that most of my contributions were clerical and forcing the good players to defend their positions. medwardstalk

Here is a list of the fallen (well, just not playing that much anymore:

  • To the not really fallen people: Look, I'm sorry! You should sign with your colourfully awesome sigs more! :P medwardstalk
  • gelbitalk
    • Yaij, I'm back! But I won't be so active anymore... work is getting in the way. Anyway, according to my experience in the beginning, I would give mayorcj, muyfabuloso, disso, bobbiemac and brigade the votes for organization. I have probably forgot someobody, but those were the people I recall edit conflicts with :) Anyway, since mayorcj seems very active to this day, he probably gets my Best Organizer award! The Best Chessplayer is harder to decide, I can say that when Kingpatzer arrived I felt he was turning the game in a sound direction and I could take a much needed break from the wiki. It's hard to decide though ... well done everyone. It's not hard to decide who gets the Most Awesome Chessplayer With an Insanely Fun and Intelligent Daily Show award and I will chip in for the consolation price if I find a way to transfer money without a credit card, moneybrokers is just about the only service I could use... --gelbitalk 12:52, 11 August 2006 (PDT)
      • Yes, of course, I forgot about Medwards... That was the first name I saw here when I pressed save :) --gelbitalk 12:54, 11 August 2006 (PDT)
  • mayorcjSR
    • Gasp... fallen? Same as Bobbie Mac - I just forgot to sign comments for a while, and was too lazy to go back and do it. I've been here since the beginning (I started the FabChess pages) and will be here until the end. mayorcjSR 08:52, 5 August 2006 (PDT)
      • Either way, I think you deserve huge kudos for the chess board thumbnails overview at the top of every move page. I thought I was all witty with putting boards showing what the suggested move would look like, but then you blew me away with nicely formatted miniboards that provided the easily digestable overview that the pages really needed. medwardstalk
  • ßrigaderant
  • bobbie_macrap at me (although I thought I saw his name in a discussion recently)
    • wow, this is like reading your own obit. I'm here...I just have a lousy habit of not signing in! I've also come to realize over the course of the game to talk less and not keep showing my unerring affinity for the move that is dynamic, counter-intuitive and totally wrong. : ) bobby_macrap at me
      • I don't know, Bobbie mac, I think your questions have been great. They've sparked some interesting discussion over the game. Don't sell yourself short!

It's also easy to forget SalMancini and Kingpatzer who appear to have been involved in the beginning. These guys seem to have stuck it out, potentially providing continuity through a game where many people rotated in and out.

  • I joined for move 7, so I wasn't here in the beginning (if I were, the fit I'd have thrown over f5 would still be going on :) ). All in all, I'm flattered to think that folks appreciated my contributions, but really, this has been quite the group effort. I think my one real contribution was continually fighting Brigade to stop talking in generalities and start giving actual variations. Once we started doing that the level of play increased dramatically. I'm sorry that it ticked Brigade off so much that he left, and I probably could have done it with more tact, but in the end it also made the discussion much more productive, in my mind. Heck, now by the time I log in, the main lines for analysis have usually already been done and there's nothing left to really say. Jeff, V, Axl, Arc, Snark and everyone else really have shown how to analyze a move very very well Kingpatzer 06:51, 5 August 2006 (PDT)
    • I'm disappointed to hear that this may ultimately have been the reason ßrigaderant left us. gelbitalk and myself are names to jump to my head when regarding people who consistently made sure that his famous statements like "THIS is the move!" didn't go unsupported. We harassed him pretty much from the start to maybe 2-3 moves before he left but it was civil and constructive (sometimes heated). The only complaint I heard from him during these periods were that evaluating all the lines in the middle of the day gave him a headache once. So I honestly have to wonder how confrontational you two got for it to be enough to frustrate him as it did. Ultimately I now believe (based on your statement) that this had nothing to do with forcing ßrigaderant to explain himself. medwardstalk
      • I hope that's the case. But it seemed that he lumped me and Jeff together as the reason for his leaving. *shrug*. Kingpatzer 05:29, 6 August 2006 (PDT)
        • Kingpatzer is the reason I took the game seriously. Originally, I came here to talk smack. Then arc, Snark, even Brigade, jeff, Axl (I think JudiciousH was there and Otis were there too and eventually PTWhipplebang) and a bunch of others started making serious comments on moves. I made a point to try and look at different variations in a quicker and more sensible fashion. Initially, I sucked at it and was always last in suggestions as everything I was looking at or was about to post was already there. Usually by Kingpatzer DAMN YOU!!! HAHA JK! Near the end, everyone was quicker and there was WAY more discussion. Everyone knew from past moves where we were at and this was a big reason why lines were easier to analyse. There were less of them to look at. I think this was rather unfortunate for newer members as they were lost. Telling them to read the last post may not have been the best option. But everything considered, I thought it was amazing how everyone got together and how most were respectful, if not sometimes upset, if moves didn't go their way. I had to miss a few moves and had some go the other way. But reading up on the reasons were interesting. I still don't get why Brigade and muyfabuloso wanted strategy. We were defensive and reactive in the beginning (hence not much strategy there) and then we attacked the center (e4) to try and make up lost pressure there which is reaping rewards at this particulal moment and now we're in the end game. Strategy-wise, this game is a bad example. Most of us weren't here in the very beginning to settle on one. Overall, I think everyone here was cool. Even Brigade. My 2 cents. V1 14:25, 11 August 2006 (PDT)


  1. VOTE by User:Anonymous just now (EDT): Clearly since there would have been no game at all without Ze (think of another player for whom this is true...) Ze is the most valuable player. QED. I really don't think you can argue for anyone else and still consider yourself a Sports Racer. ;-)


He (she??) did set these chess pages up and got the game going, right?

  • Yes and no, he did a lot of hacking, but look in the history of the main page, mayorcj started it.
  1. VOTE by Graymon 06:57, 14 August 2006 (PDT): ßrigaderant made this game what it is.
  2. VOTE by Paravillintiniay. Brigade rocks pretty hard.
  3. VOTE by SaintPeter 13:34, 18 August 2006 (PDT) - His Templates and early work made the game possible.


  1. VOTE by Cubzas 13:55, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  2. VOTE by Wgolds47 13:46, 15 August 2006 (PDT): Learned the most from him and thought he raised the level of play
  3. VOTE by Del : 20:14, 16 August 2006 (EDT) : Was impartial and encouraged various positional points of view, and yet still drove us to a good game.
  4. VOTE by Nathaniel : When will THEN be NOW? SOON : Somebody has to break the tie.


Jeff? Jeff who? The guy that did that really cool 3D chess board? As if.

  1. VOTE by Somejeff 14:36, 16 August 2006 (PDT) well that certainly was one of the coolest things to happen during the game.bobby_macrap at me


(Copied from above): "Flattered, but I really only came on board around move 19, so respectfully bow out of [the MVP running]. You all were already winning by then! :) Definitely will be around for Fabuloso Chess Redux, though. We should get White... - Axl"



Really, this guy could have ended the game on move two or three when he proposed the Sportinski Kozimov Hard Charging Opener Blitzkrieg. This little-known offensive from Estonia is really the unheralded gem of Fabuloso Chess. --Signed Suspiciously Anonymous

  1. VOTE by [LoA] bodog_formerly_byslexic 20:07, 15 August 2006 (PDT) for the mere imagining of this power move. All else is cake.

So we won (yay!), should we buy Ze a Consolation Prize?

WTF is up with the 'IF'? Kingpatzer 12:36, 4 August 2006 (PDT)

  • I was trying to be polite. I now see the error in my ways. PTWhipplebang 12:45, 4 August 2006 (PDT)

The following was suggested and discussed yesterday. PTWhipplebang 12:11, 4 August 2006 (PDT)

Anyone want to vote on if we buy Ze a consolation prize for letting us have this much fun? I haven't pledged yet, but I'll toss in a few bucks to get him one of his books anyway. This game has been a hoot. I realize we don't have to, after all, he's lost (well not yet, but soon), but it'd be kind of cool to treat him to something off his list for letting us have all this fun. Kingpatzer 17:58, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

  • Why not Das Max und Moritz Buch? It's what we were going to buy him when we weren't sure how much money we could raise. Heh...that sounds funny now. PTWhipplebang 18:04, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
    • Also, I don't think it makes much sense to buy him something too expensive, since technically we don't owe him anything. PTWhipplebang 18:06, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
    • Sounds like a good plan. Lets set up voting for this. It's very arrogant to work on a consolation prize before we have won, that's why I love the idea. arc
  • I would definitely kick in something for the consolation prize. I think that's a great idea. This has been fun! Snark
  • I agree, I mean after all, he brings a few minuets of quality entertainment to us for free every day. M4cfr34k 02:08, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  • Me too. I haven't been participating, or even following very closely (no time), but it has been fun to watch it progress. I'll kick in. --Sford 09:10, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  • This discussion actually already has a pledge page here.
  • Rather than buy Ze a prize, why don't we wait until Fabuloso Friday 3 to give him another chance? The League of Awesomeness rules presumably still apply. (It need not be chess, either.) -- 17:07, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  • I think a consolation prize only makes sense if "improves" his performance video. Maybe something to wear? Also I think an MFP is preferable to a MVP but should wait for a bit. BitBender 12:08, 5 August 2006 (PDT)
    • I'm with you on the wearable prize; maybe the tight pink chess shirt? Also, what's an MFP? PTWhipplebang 13:31, 5 August 2006 (PDT)
    • F is Fabulous... , rather than color I was think of some wearable phrase. Also since this was not part of the agreed stakes if would have to be something reasonable. bitBender

Why not donate the money to a good cause in Ze's name (or in the name of Sports Racers or The League of Awesomeness)?

Buy Ze a Prize

  1. VOTE by PTWhipplebang 12:11, 4 August 2006 (PDT): I've had a great time playing and I think it would be nice to show Ze our appreciation.
  2. VOTE by Kingpatzer 12:15, 4 August 2006 (PDT) : I agree. I've had a blast. It wouldn't hurt to show Ze we appreciate him taking his beating like a sugartit, er man.
  3. VOTE by Arc 3:25, 4 August 2006 (EST) I want the amazon gift card to say "Thanks sugartits!"
  4. VOTE by Cubzas 12:21, 4 August 2006 (PDT) We have fun, don't we? Let's thank Ze.
  5. VOTE by Snark 13:21, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  6. VOTE by Otis 14:04, 4 August 2006 (PDT) Sure, but I think it would be great to split the pledge money amongst Ze and the winner of a round-robin tourney of our top four players as voted upon by ourselves. We have enough pledge money to pay for the book Ze wanted and enough to spare for a book to give to our MVP after a playoff. Otis 14:04, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  7. VOTE by Sford 15:03, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
  8. VOTE by SaintPeter 19:58, 4 August 2006 (PDT) I'm in - I've pledged on that pledge page too. Hope we actually win, though :)
  9. VOTE by Animegod 01:01, 5 August 2006 (PDT) I'm down. This whole experience has been really fun. I'd like to give something back.
  10. VOTE by Argonbeam3500 16:50, 05 AUG 2006 (CDT) I'd still go five bucks... This has been much more entertaining than any of the current summer movies, for me.
  11. VOTE by Hugaboo 16:53, 05 AUG 2006 (CDT) I would definitely kick in the balls of a small dog for the consolation prize. I think that's a great idea. This has been fun!
  12. VOTE by SqueedoI also agree, we should get him a litle something just for the idea.
  13. VOTE by Chainsaw I've had fun and learned a lot just by watching the progress of the game. And, I think it is a good way to show we appreciate Ze for everything he's doing.
  14. VOTE by Peaches Its a very small price to pay given the HOURS of entertainment I've enjoyed and shared with others... cannot wait for the ORG to come together formally
  15. VOTE by Nathaniel What, it's like 5 bucks each? No problem.
  16. VOTE by Guyonphone I didn't become a supporter to play chess, i did it to support ze, and be cheap at the same time, the dude gives us great entertainment everyday. we should drop everyone to the minimum amount we had to pay to vote on a move, i think it was 3 bux, and buy him what we can with that.

Don't Buy Ze a Prize

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