Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move17

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**detailed history** | **current 3d view**
	Ze	Us	consensus
1	d4	d5	56%
2	c4	e6	66%
3	Nc3	Bb4	48%
4	Nf3	Nf6	82%
5	e3	Ne4	56%
6	Qc2	f5	62%
7	Bd3	O-O	83%
8	O-O	b6	61%
9	a3	Bxc3	57%
10	bxc3	Ba6	65%
11	Ne5	Nd7	37%
12	Nc6	Qf6	89%
13	f3	Nd6	100%
14	e4	dxc4	100%
15	Be2	e5	100%
16	d5	Nb8	55%
17	Nb4	Bb7	93%
18	a4	a5	100%
19	Na2	Nd7	50%
20	Ba3	Rac8	50%
21	Rab1	Qg5	60%
22	Kh1	fxe4	61%
23	fxe4	Qg6	89%
24	Rxf8+	Rxf8	100%
25	Bxd6	Rf2	100%
26	Rg1	cxd6	100%
27	Qd1	Nf6	73%
28	Bf3	Nxe4	93%
29	Nc1	Rd2	53%
30	Bxe4	Rxd1	100%
31	Bxg6	Rxg1+	100%
32	Kxg1	hxg6	100%
33	Resign	---

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Voting CLOSED Bb7

Today's Suggested Moves have been posted, and the voting polls will open at Saturday 7PM EDT and close at Monday 12AM EDT(Sunday night), in order to give time for enough deliberation before the votes are cast. Don't have a username/Id yet? Get one here! and take some credit for your contributions!

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Voting Instructions

Cut and paste the following to vote

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You may vote for many moves as you like, but only one vote per move.
When voting closes, the move with the most votes wins.
If there is a tie, whoever tallies the votes breaks the tie.

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Consensus Question

The "Consensus" for yesterday's vote is listed at 55%. However, there were only 16 unique voters who cast 20 votes. Shouldn't the "consensus" percentage be 69% (11 votes for the move prior to the deadline / 16 unique voters) rather than 55%. Kingpatzer 12:57, 21 July 2006 (PDT)

I agree and have updated it.-87 ⁴ 13:08, 21 July 2006 (PDT)

There were 20 votes cast (some duplicate but that's allowed, according to the rules) and 11 were for Nb8...hence, 55%. That's the percentage of the votes, not the voters, that it received. Snark 14:16, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
- Granted, but isn't the percentage of voters that support a move a better measure of the consensus of support for that move? If A, B, C all vote a given move and A also votes for another, that's still 100% consensus for the given move. Why would you call that 75% consensus? -87⁴ 14:21, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
  - I think 100% means "everyone agrees that's the best move," not "most people think it's one of several playable options". In your example, A apparently can't decide. That has to be somehow different than 100% consensus. Snark 14:28, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
  - Not to belabor the point, but if, as in your example, A, B, and C each voted for the same two moves (nobody could make up their minds), then you'd have that as 100% consensus. I just think that misuses the term. That has to be 50% consensus. Okay, I'm done now. Snark 14:51, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
    - It doesn't have to be 50% consensus, because in that example A, B, and C are all agreed that either move is good. That's 100% consensus because everyone would be happy with either choice. He who says zonk 22:21, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
    - Snark, it's not "percentage of votes recieved," it's "percentage of voters who agree to the move." After all, we're reporting consensus, not margin of victory. Suppose there are 3 moves to choose from. There are 10 voters. Each voter votes for the 1st move, and 5 vote for move 2 and the other 5 vote for move 3. Of the people voting, 100% of the people support the first move, and 50% support each of the other moves. There is 100% consensus on the move choice since every voter agreed to support move 1. Kingpatzer 15:00, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
      - If that is the case then move 13 should be 100% Geedubber 16:07, 21 July 2006 (PDT)