Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move2

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Ze Us consensus
1 d4 d5 56%
2 c4 e6 66%
3 Nc3 Bb4 48%
4 Nf3 Nf6 82%
5 e3 Ne4 56%
6 Qc2 f5 62%
7 Bd3 O-O 83%
8 O-O b6 61%
9 a3 Bxc3 57%
10 bxc3 Ba6 65%
11 Ne5 Nd7 37%
12 Nc6 Qf6 89%
13 f3 Nd6 100%
14 e4 dxc4 100%
15 Be2 e5 100%
16 d5 Nb8 55%
17 Nb4 Bb7 93%
18 a4 a5 100%
19 Na2 Nd7 50%
20 Ba3 Rac8 50%
21 Rab1 Qg5 60%
22 Kh1 fxe4 61%
23 fxe4 Qg6 89%
24 Rxf8+ Rxf8 100%
25 Bxd6 Rf2 100%
26 Rg1 cxd6 100%
27 Qd1 Nf6 73%
28 Bf3 Nxe4 93%
29 Nc1 Rd2 53%
30 Bxe4 Rxd1 100%
31 Bxg6 Rxg1+ 100%
32 Kxg1 hxg6 100%
33 Resign ---

Voting Closed

Our move has been posted: e6.
Thank you for participating in the discussion!

Final Tally

2. .. e6 - 6 votes
2. .. c6 - 3 votes

Current Position

Current board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Last move: 2. ... e6

Contents


Our Current Position is the Queen's Gambit Declined. Our Pawn at d5 is still being threatened by the pawn at c4, but it is protected by pawn at e5. Here is a fun [chess opening explorer]. Although our true current position will not be known until Ze makes his next move.


Strategy Discussion

Nf6


Speculative board position
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Image:chess_zver_22.png
a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Speculative: 2. ... g8-f6
  • Protects d5. e6 still remains a possibility. e6 is the practical move, but I never go that way. --voodooboy 17:06, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
    • [Marshall Defense] Has its problems apparently?
      • countermove from white possible - Queen to a4 (check) - necessitates blocking move by pawn to c6, and ties up the entire left side of the board under the influence of White Queen. -argonbeam3500-


e5


Speculative board position
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Image:chess_zver_22.png
a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Speculative: 2. ... e7-e5
  • Opens the lines for our Queen and Queen's bishop.bobbie_mactalk
    • Doesn't this belong in Suggest a move!? (meh, consolidate it later I suppse) Further, pawn to e4 is a move for white. We're playing as black. medwardstalk
  • Notation corrected.

e6

Speculative board position
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Image:chess_zver_22.png
a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Speculative: 2. ... e7-e6
  • Opens lines for bishop, further develops pawn structure, helps protect our pawn at d5, and prepares to strike at his wide-open queenside. [Queens Gambit Declined].Brigade 13:44, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
    • Isn't this opening us up for Qd1-e4 (check)? Which is pretty much the same situation as described by ArgonBeam3500 in Nf6 move commentary?
  • I vote for e6. Lael 14:03, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
  • I vote for e6, too Gypsyssister ;although I'm suggesting an alternative below...Oh, hell; it's the slave's defense, and no, I haven't the brain to gigure out where to add this suggestion...
  • Agreed. Protects d5 without the queen becoming involved and opens the line for queens bishop. Altogether sexy move. Gambit declined Ze...GAMBIT DECLINED!
  • yes indeed... DECLINED!Sunnybunny
  • Aye, QGD 2...e6 fyi: i'm hoping for a semi-slav, in the long run. many variations get chaotic - allowing for less 'book-moves' Nerfquark


... Qd8-d1

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Per the original d7-d5 discussion I believe the Sportinski Kozimov Hard Charging Opener Blitzkrieg is our best approach. It is a particular favourite in my homeland of Elbonia. medwardstalk

  • Can't use it yet .. it loses to Ke1. Brigade 13:59, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
    • You mean Ke1-d1 right? But the Queen is supported by X#-d1 by the Fabuloso's medwardstalk
      • My god, you're right .. and i forgot after we move the Knight, we can backwards-promote the pawn on b7 and get another queen! Ingenious! Brigade 20:22, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
        • Brigade, I'd like to thank you for having good humor about this as you struggle to discuss serious moves elsewhere on the page. I still vote for this (and probably the Semi-Slav or Semi-Slav-like options). medwardstalk
          • Thank you very much for the compliment, medwards. It is supposed to be in fun, after all. No reason why we can't be silly as well as intelligent (Just like Ze's videos); reaping the best of both worlds.  :-)


c6


Speculative board position
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Image:chess_zver_22.png
a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
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Speculative: 3. ... c7-c6
  • Queens Bishop unblocked, balanced pawn structure, and prevents the pin, helps protect our pawn at d5.. [[1]].Anon 14:452, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
  • Um, yeah, I vote this as well; prefer this one; now both bishops have an open line. And thank you for covering my lame butt. Gypsysister
  • Vote for this by --Medwards 23:23, 26 June 2006 (PDT) : Semi-Slav defense per the very first move discussion with many bonuses.


Qd7


Speculative board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Last move: 3. ... Q - d7
  • Q - d7
    • not sure i get where this move is going?
      • imho .. common beginner mistake, developing Queen too early. (also edited subject heading) Brigade 20:19, 26 June 2006 (PDT)



HEY FABULOSOS...MAKE YOUR MOVE - ITS ALMOST MIDNIGHT! - ze

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