Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move26
From zefrank
| Ze | Us | consensus | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | d4 | d5 | 56% |
| 2 | c4 | e6 | 66% |
| 3 | Nc3 | Bb4 | 48% |
| 4 | Nf3 | Nf6 | 82% |
| 5 | e3 | Ne4 | 56% |
| 6 | Qc2 | f5 | 62% |
| 7 | Bd3 | O-O | 83% |
| 8 | O-O | b6 | 61% |
| 9 | a3 | Bxc3 | 57% |
| 10 | bxc3 | Ba6 | 65% |
| 11 | Ne5 | Nd7 | 37% |
| 12 | Nc6 | Qf6 | 89% |
| 13 | f3 | Nd6 | 100% |
| 14 | e4 | dxc4 | 100% |
| 15 | Be2 | e5 | 100% |
| 16 | d5 | Nb8 | 55% |
| 17 | Nb4 | Bb7 | 93% |
| 18 | a4 | a5 | 100% |
| 19 | Na2 | Nd7 | 50% |
| 20 | Ba3 | Rac8 | 50% |
| 21 | Rab1 | Qg5 | 60% |
| 22 | Kh1 | fxe4 | 61% |
| 23 | fxe4 | Qg6 | 89% |
| 24 | Rxf8+ | Rxf8 | 100% |
| 25 | Bxd6 | Rf2 | 100% |
| 26 | Rg1 | cxd6 | 100% |
| 27 | Qd1 | Nf6 | 73% |
| 28 | Bf3 | Nxe4 | 93% |
| 29 | Nc1 | Rd2 | 53% |
| 30 | Bxe4 | Rxd1 | 100% |
| 31 | Bxg6 | Rxg1+ | 100% |
| 32 | Kxg1 | hxg6 | 100% |
| 33 | Resign | --- |
Voting Closed cxd6 100%
cxd6 17 votes.
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Strategy Discussion
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Suggested Move Summary
cxd6
- According to yesterday, this is the only move. V 12:43, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- Having joined the cxd6 camp (it being the best way to deal with the immediate problem of the Bishop) I'd like to put a vote in for this (After I get home from work I won't be on a computer for awhile.) Please put my name in the vote section for this when the time comes. Thanks. medwardstalk
- Likewise I'd appreciate if someone added my name to the votes for it. I will be asleep. He who says zonk 14:16, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- Any other move wouldn't male much sense. It's too soon to initiate the queen fork and exchange and we need to get rid of that threat.Funky citrus 12:48, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- the only other move that makes any kind of sense to me is QxB, but it seems intuitively obvious that the queen is far more powerfull on the king side than stuck behind those center pawns. Kingpatzer 12:49, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- wait a tick, the queen exchange doesn't exist anymore. That bishop took out our knight.
- That's why we'll try and play Nc5 on our next move. V 12:56, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- if 27. Qd1 then Qxe4 increases our material advantage. If 27. Nc1 then Bxd5 puts him in a bind. if 27. h3 then Bxd5 again works to our advantage. Nothing else makes much sense for white. Kingpatzer 12:57, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- What I don't like about 27. ... Bxd5 is that our bishop is stuck there afterwards. Ze can sit back and do something else. If we move the bishop, he does Bxc4+ and then our rook is a goner. V 13:03, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- It's "stuck" but so what? What does he do? Nc1? Qd1? Qd2? Qb2? Bh5? Kingpatzer 14:38, 3 August 2006 (PDT) The threat to check our king is there if we simply make a dumb move, but that's not a reason, imho, to refuse material. There's no threat there we can't avoid by correct play. Kingpatzer 14:38, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- What I don't like about 27. ... Bxd5 is that our bishop is stuck there afterwards. Ze can sit back and do something else. If we move the bishop, he does Bxc4+ and then our rook is a goner. V 13:03, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- This is far and away the best move. We will soon clean up against White as Ze has to burn material to avoid mate. Snark 13:34, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- OK, I agree - it is the best move. --Cubzas 13:36, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- What's Ze's response? 27 Qd1 or g3?
- Not sure about g3 yet, but Qd1 has the easy response of Qxe4 (I think). arc
- If g3, then 28. g3 Qh6 29. h4 Qe3. I like the way they both look. arc
- White will probably play Qd1, Qd2, or Nc1. We should play Nc5 in response to either of those. Qxe4 (in response to Qd1 or Qd2) is not as good because Bf3 will be annoying. Snark 14:05, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- This is the only good move and it should develop 100% consensus yet again. There's a lot of banter and analysis about a few other variations below, but, while amusing, it's only 'cause people are bored or really like debate for its own sake. -Axl 14:16, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- lol all of the above, in my case, Axl. Otis 14:26, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- Ooooh. Chess analysis and a little human behavioral analysis to sweeten the deal! PTWhipplebang 14:19, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- A little sugartits thrown in and it'll be quite the pastry. arc
- It'd be good to start developing Ze's possible responses down below, since I clearly suck at it :) arc
VOTING
- VOTE by medwardstalk: Having joined the cxd6 camp (it being the best way to deal with the immediate problem of the Bishop) I'd like to put a vote in for this (After I get home from work I won't be on a computer for awhile.) Please put my name in the vote section for this when the time comes. Thanks.
- VOTE by He who says zonk 14:20, 3 August 2006 (PDT): I'd appreciate someone placing a vote for me when the time comes, I am going to bed now.
- VOTE by Otis 14:27, 3 August 2006 (PDT): Due to time zones, I have to make a pre-vote. Please consider this my vote when the polls open. Good night, all.
- VOTE by PTWhipplebang 16:10, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- VOTE by Snark 16:38, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- VOTE by Geedubber 17:06, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- VOTE by JudiciousH 17:29, 3 August 2006 (PDT): I wanted BxD5 to be playable, but it's just not so.
- VOTE by Kingpatzer 17:42, 3 August 2006 (PDT) : other moves may be playable, but this is simply the best, sugartits!
- VOTE by Marvelous 17:44, 3 August 2006 (PDT): the last few moves have been so sweet I forgot Ze still had both his bishops... problem solved.
- VOTE by Amorphus 17:46, 3 August 2006 (PDT): Waiting for the tunes!
- VOTE by Axl 17:50, 3 August 2006 (PDT): Naturally.
- VOTE by Teague 19:05, 3 August 2006(MDT)
- VOTE by SalMancini me too
- VOTE by --Cubzas 19:29, 3 August 2006 (PDT) Close is near
- VOTE by SaintPeter 20:15, 3 August 2006 (PDT) Let's not count our chickens before they hatch. But this is fun, everyone pile on Ze!
- VOTE by Theroachman 20:17, 3 August 2006 (PDT) Ah heck, I just go with the flow. Some other lines are tempting too, for different reasons, but let's just play it cool. If there comes a Fabuloso Chess 2 (and I hope there will), we are 1-0 in front and then we can do more exotic stuff.
- VOTE by V 20:58, 3 August 2006 (PDT) : hope I made it. 2 min left before deadline. Crap, writing this took 3 minutes.