Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move6

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Ze Us consensus
1 d4 d5 56%
2 c4 e6 66%
3 Nc3 Bb4 48%
4 Nf3 Nf6 82%
5 e3 Ne4 56%
6 Qc2 f5 62%
7 Bd3 O-O 83%
8 O-O b6 61%
9 a3 Bxc3 57%
10 bxc3 Ba6 65%
11 Ne5 Nd7 37%
12 Nc6 Qf6 89%
13 f3 Nd6 100%
14 e4 dxc4 100%
15 Be2 e5 100%
16 d5 Nb8 55%
17 Nb4 Bb7 93%
18 a4 a5 100%
19 Na2 Nd7 50%
20 Ba3 Rac8 50%
21 Rab1 Qg5 60%
22 Kh1 fxe4 61%
23 fxe4 Qg6 89%
24 Rxf8+ Rxf8 100%
25 Bxd6 Rf2 100%
26 Rg1 cxd6 100%
27 Qd1 Nf6 73%
28 Bf3 Nxe4 93%
29 Nc1 Rd2 53%
30 Bxe4 Rxd1 100%
31 Bxg6 Rxg1+ 100%
32 Kxg1 hxg6 100%
33 Resign ---

Game Resumes Wednesday, Knowledge is taking a Holiday

Voting Closed

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  • Thank you all for your patience and contributions throughout the weekend.

Final Tally:

6. Qc2 f5 - 8 Votes
6. Qc2 b6 - 4 Votes
6. Qc2 f6 - 1 Vote

Wednesday's Suggested Moves will be posted after Ze's broadcast, and the voting polls will open @7PM EST and close at 12AM EST, in order to give time for enough deliberation before the votes are cast.

Strategy Discussion

Current board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Last move: 6. Qc2

Contents


Our Pawn at d5 is still being threatened by the pawn at c4, but it is protected by pawn at e6. The c3 knight no longer threatens d5, as our b4 Bishop has it pinned to his king. We have also advanced our Knight to f3 in preparation to possibly assault Ze's position. Please take the time to familiarize yourself with some common middlegame tactics as well.

Also, please don't be too hesitant to suggest your own move in this section. Just use * to begin a line and add your idea, even if you aren't familiar with notation, or don't feel comfortable updating the boards/suggestions yourself, there are plenty of us that will be more than willing to set them up for you (and keep everything organized) ßrigaderant

  • Guys, we are getting too agressive. What are we going to do with the horse & bish? Look 4 moves down that chain. What are we really going to do, besides trading a bish and a knight for a bish and a knight, and giving away the center? Its as bad to be overdefensive as it is to be over aggressive. This isnt endgame yet, and we should NOT play it like it is, or it will be our endgame. We have done a fair opening game. We are transitioning to midgame.... We dont get the wedding night until after the wedding day... Potential Ze moves: Q-A4, P-C5, K-e5(fork setup). Potential Fab moves(not in order): Q-d6 (def B), Q-d7 (def vs. p), K-C6 (def B), B-D2(def vs. Q), P-B6(open B, def vs p). Moves for Fabs to avoid K-A6(bish victim), KxC3(we kill our own pin), BxC3(losing trade), Q-G5orH4 (Giving away the queen). AnonHC

The threats from Ze


Ze Attack Plan
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Sketch of the main threat.

The first thing you should ask in Chess is "What is my opponent trying to do". Let's try to draw up the main attack plan and treaths that face us in this position. That might explain why in the current situations some defensive moves like castling and solidifying the knight by playing f5 are quite important.

  • Argh, this is my last edit... The sketch is not the only threat, maybe someone can remove this comment and fill this section with some more analysis of the current position, what is happening in the left hand side of the board, the move a3 is quite likely from Ze... --gelbitalk 11:56, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
    • Double-argh, I just can't stop... no, I just found a way to formulate what's happening on the queenside. The move a3 forces us to either exchange bishop for knight and after that (and then the move Ba3 prevents us from castling for a while -- maybe not that big of a deal, I don't know). If we don't exchange we are forced to move the bishop and then that relieves the pin from the knight and the d5 pawn needs further support by for example c6, which is why playing c5 might be dangerous. Ok, hope it helps, and I really trust you guys, I do! --gelbitalk 12:07, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
      • Aren't you on vacation? medwardstalk
      • Yea --gelbi .. go lay out on the beach or something. We'll be here (and winning) when you get back .. have no fear.  :-)
  • However, there aren't any 'real' threats from Ze at this point. As long as we avoid the bishop sacrifice mate, he's only really threatening a pawn at this moment. We can't spend hours pouring over what he might do (as we have done before) .. let's look at the situation at hand and evaluate our best possibility. Right now our advantages are:
  1. Initiative (he's reacting to us, which is huge for black this early in the game)
  2. Development (more of our pieces are out, and in better positions, than his)
  3. Space (we own more than 1/2 of the board at this moment, granted that can change)
  4. Mobility (this ties into space, but we have a LOT more prospective moves than he does) .. we can retreat or advance with few limitations, he can not.
Right now, we should capitalize on our advantages, and/or try to maintain them. Keep him cramped in, don't open the board, continue to reinforce our forces, and wait for an opportunity to strike. ßrigaderant


Suggested Move Summary

Suggested Move Nxc3
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Challenge Line: 6. Qc2 Nxc3
Suggested Move c5
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Tarrasch Defense: 6. Qc2 c5
Suggested Move O-O
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Castle Kingside:6. Qc2 O-O
Suggested Move f5
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Push Pawn/Cover Knight:6. Qc2 f5
Suggested Move Nc6
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Develop the Knight: 6. Qc2 Nc6
Suggested Move Bd7
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7