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Ze Us consensus
1 d4 d5 56%
2 c4 e6 66%
3 Nc3 Bb4 48%
4 Nf3 Nf6 82%
5 e3 Ne4 56%
6 Qc2 f5 62%
7 Bd3 O-O 83%
8 O-O b6 61%
9 a3 Bxc3 57%
10 bxc3 Ba6 65%
11 Ne5 Nd7 37%
12 Nc6 Qf6 89%
13 f3 Nd6 100%
14 e4 dxc4 100%
15 Be2 e5 100%
16 d5 Nb8 55%
17 Nb4 Bb7 93%
18 a4 a5 100%
19 Na2 Nd7 50%
20 Ba3 Rac8 50%
21 Rab1 Qg5 60%
22 Kh1 fxe4 61%
23 fxe4 Qg6 89%
24 Rxf8+ Rxf8 100%
25 Bxd6 Rf2 100%
26 Rg1 cxd6 100%
27 Qd1 Nf6 73%
28 Bf3 Nxe4 93%
29 Nc1 Rd2 53%
30 Bxe4 Rxd1 100%
31 Bxg6 Rxg1+ 100%
32 Kxg1 hxg6 100%
33 Resign ---

Game Resumes Wednesday, Knowledge is taking a Holiday

Voting Closed

  • Also don't forget to contribute to the taunt to be delivered with the move.
  • Thank you all for your patience and contributions throughout the weekend.

Final Tally:

6. Qc2 f5 - 8 Votes
6. Qc2 b6 - 4 Votes
6. Qc2 f6 - 1 Vote

Wednesday's Suggested Moves will be posted after Ze's broadcast, and the voting polls will open @7PM EST and close at 12AM EST, in order to give time for enough deliberation before the votes are cast.

Strategy Discussion

Current board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Last move: 6. Qc2

Contents


Our Pawn at d5 is still being threatened by the pawn at c4, but it is protected by pawn at e6. The c3 knight no longer threatens d5, as our b4 Bishop has it pinned to his king. We have also advanced our Knight to f3 in preparation to possibly assault Ze's position. Please take the time to familiarize yourself with some common middlegame tactics as well.

Also, please don't be too hesitant to suggest your own move in this section. Just use * to begin a line and add your idea, even if you aren't familiar with notation, or don't feel comfortable updating the boards/suggestions yourself, there are plenty of us that will be more than willing to set them up for you (and keep everything organized) ßrigaderant

  • Guys, we are getting too agressive. What are we going to do with the horse & bish? Look 4 moves down that chain. What are we really going to do, besides trading a bish and a knight for a bish and a knight, and giving away the center? Its as bad to be overdefensive as it is to be over aggressive. This isnt endgame yet, and we should NOT play it like it is, or it will be our endgame. We have done a fair opening game. We are transitioning to midgame.... We dont get the wedding night until after the wedding day... Potential Ze moves: Q-A4, P-C5, K-e5(fork setup). Potential Fab moves(not in order): Q-d6 (def B), Q-d7 (def vs. p), K-C6 (def B), B-D2(def vs. Q), P-B6(open B, def vs p). Moves for Fabs to avoid K-A6(bish victim), KxC3(we kill our own pin), BxC3(losing trade), Q-G5orH4 (Giving away the queen). AnonHC

The threats from Ze


Ze Attack Plan
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Sketch of the main threat.

The first thing you should ask in Chess is "What is my opponent trying to do". Let's try to draw up the main attack plan and treaths that face us in this position. That might explain why in the current situations some defensive moves like castling and solidifying the knight by playing f5 are quite important.

  • Argh, this is my last edit... The sketch is not the only threat, maybe someone can remove this comment and fill this section with some more analysis of the current position, what is happening in the left hand side of the board, the move a3 is quite likely from Ze... --gelbitalk 11:56, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
    • Double-argh, I just can't stop... no, I just found a way to formulate what's happening on the queenside. The move a3 forces us to either exchange bishop for knight and after that (and then the move Ba3 prevents us from castling for a while -- maybe not that big of a deal, I don't know). If we don't exchange we are forced to move the bishop and then that relieves the pin from the knight and the d5 pawn needs further support by for example c6, which is why playing c5 might be dangerous. Ok, hope it helps, and I really trust you guys, I do! --gelbitalk 12:07, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
      • Aren't you on vacation? medwardstalk
      • Yea --gelbi .. go lay out on the beach or something. We'll be here (and winning) when you get back .. have no fear.  :-)
  • However, there aren't any 'real' threats from Ze at this point. As long as we avoid the bishop sacrifice mate, he's only really threatening a pawn at this moment. We can't spend hours pouring over what he might do (as we have done before) .. let's look at the situation at hand and evaluate our best possibility. Right now our advantages are:
  1. Initiative (he's reacting to us, which is huge for black this early in the game)
  2. Development (more of our pieces are out, and in better positions, than his)
  3. Space (we own more than 1/2 of the board at this moment, granted that can change)
  4. Mobility (this ties into space, but we have a LOT more prospective moves than he does) .. we can retreat or advance with few limitations, he can not.
Right now, we should capitalize on our advantages, and/or try to maintain them. Keep him cramped in, don't open the board, continue to reinforce our forces, and wait for an opportunity to strike. ßrigaderant


Suggested Move Summary

Suggested Move Nxc3
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Challenge Line: 6. Qc2 Nxc3
Suggested Move c5
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Tarrasch Defense: 6. Qc2 c5
Suggested Move O-O
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Castle Kingside:6. Qc2 O-O
Suggested Move f5
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Push Pawn/Cover Knight:6. Qc2 f5
Suggested Move Nc6
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Develop the Knight: 6. Qc2 Nc6
Suggested Move Bd7
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Moving out Bishop:6. Qc2 Bd7
Suggested Move b6
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Preparation for fiancetto:6. Qc2 b6
Suggested Move f5
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Preempt Ne5:6. Qc2 f6



f5

Suggested Move f5
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Advance Pawn/Support Knight 6. Qc2 f5
  • I stepped back for the afternoon, and i've been cleaning up/reorganizing the boards a bit. I threw this board up earlier (thanks whomever fixed my formatting nightmare of the 6 boards on the table) but no one decided to speculate on it. So here's my $.02 ...
  • I think that this MIGHT be our move. Here are my reasons:
  1. It supports our advanced knight.
  2. It advances another pawn to the center.
  3. It pre-empts Bd3 (threatening our Knight) and a Classic Bishop Sacrifice
  4. It's a safe move .. we're neither obstructing our own pieces, and we're 'settling in' .. basically claiming more space on the board. This gives Ze more chances to make a mistake (his pieces are all cramped in, he's not got a lot of movement)
  • And the disadvantages:
  1. If we castle kingside, we're taking away one of our defensive pawns .. this can go both ways, but 'by the book' .. it's a disadvantage.
  2. We may want to look at another move like Bd7 or Nc6 in order to further develop/allow for a Queenside castle (as opposed to Kingside)
  3. Although it's not obstructing anything now .. it IS giving us a 'bad bishop' i.e. Further hampering the mobility of our (undeveloped) light bishop.
  • I tend to like this one best. I've never really been a fan of castling, I've always felt that it was more of a trap than a fortress, so reducing that effectiveness doesn't bother me. I don't like Nc6, since it walls in our queen, and while Pb6 is nice, it doesn't offer the short term advantage that this move does. Backing up our knight and strengthening our control of the middle makes sense to me. --Towlineeh
  • wouldn't Qa4+ by him force us to lose our bishop? Geedubber 02:19, 1 July 2006 (PDT)
  • Same situation as below, we have Nc6 which simultaneously eliminates the check as well as covering our bishop. Qc2 was a VERY good move .. I doubt that he'd make a bad move like Qa4+, especially considering that he could have made that move THIS turn .. it doesn't really gain him anything (he'd have to either protect his queen or waste another move bringing her back, and we get a free Nc3 out of the deal) ßrigaderant
  • Entirely new to this game (the Ze vs Fab) and discussion, but I'm entirely in agreement with f5. Ne5 is a greater threat than we are discussing, methinks. Take time to get the pawns in shape and limit his options, then dismantle our pawn structure to fit our needs. -Nute
  • I think this is the right move. It protects us from his queen attacking, etc. It's good.
  • If this is the move by black I think it will go 6 ... f5, 7 cxd5 exd5 8 Be2 ... and then black will be left with a hard-to-defend kingside and two hard-to-defend pawns. Doesn't seem so good. I still like Nc6 --Jeff
I disagree. Based on his moves thus far, either 7. Be2 or Be3 .. cxd5 is a blunder, if he moves his pawn he'll push to c5. However, for the sake of arguement, if he did play 7. cxd5 we respond by Qxd5 not exd5. So we don't isolate our pawns.  :-) ßrigaderant
What? If black does Qxd5 then white responds with Bd3 and black is pretty much forced to either Nxc3 or Bxc3 leaving white with bxc3 which gives him a terrific queenside pawn
  • VOTE NO by SalMancini: I don't like it. I feel it leaves us open to Ne5. While that is not an immediate threat it would be hard for us to get him out of there and gives him a beachhead to build off of. If ... 7. Ne5 then we go f6 but not if we have already passed it with f5 giving him a strong queenside pawn structure and a handy open b file for his rook. --Jeff
---- COMMENT Is this a vote? he has another one down below...Geedubber 13:16, 2 July 2006 (PDT)
  • I am going to guess that Ze goes Bd3. It attacks our knight and will allow Ze to castle Geedubber


Voting

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  1. VOTE by ßrigaderant 22:13, 1 July 2006 (PDT): After reviewing 8 other potentials, this is the strongest we have.
  2. VOTE by bobbie_macrap at me: There are a lot of good suggestions, but I guess I finally settled on this because with this move we can eventually attack his knight with our pawn on file g.
  3. VOTE - I think this is a wise move 65.190.198.224 07:59, 2 July 2006 (PDT)
  4. VOTE by Towlineeh: As I said earlier, this move strengthens the middle, and while the other moves are also good, I think we'll find a more appropriate time to do them
  5. VOTE by Funky citrus 13:06, 2 July 2006 (PDT): If we castle it opens up room for our rook, and the whole limiting his number of moves deal.
  6. VOTE by 67.168.108.102 13:36, 2 July 2006 (PDT): We need to move our pawns forward now that we've taken the offensive, this keeps us going but also shores up defenses. Our other moves look all either too open/aggressive or too pointless.
  7. VOTE by mayorcjSR 14:56, 2 July 2006 (PDT): Agreed, this is the best option, as black, I'd rather not initiate first-strike.
  8. VOTE by Wophugus

b6

Suggested Move
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Preparation for fiancetto: 6. Qc2 b6

I kindof stumbled onto this move .. and the more I think about it .. the more I like it. It's 'hypermodern' and agressive in a subtle kind of way. Basically, this move is setting us up for Ba6, developing our light-bishop to the flank, or Bb7, putting it on the longest diagonal of the board. Personally, I almost like f5 as a better move, but this one tickles my fancy. ßrigaderant

  • Something i just thought of: if he plays 7. c5 or 7. cxd5, then we really can't follow up with Ba6 (our knight covers, but the flanks are lousy for knights) due to a potential capture from his bishop on f1. However if he doesn't advance his c4 pawn before we play Ba6, it will pin his pawn, if he moves it, we can then Bxf1, which trades off light bishops, but also eliminates his ability to castle .. (he'd recapture with Kxf1 or more likely Rxf1) .. granted he could still castle on the queenside, but this would be suicide. It's a gambit, but something to think about in comparison to our other prospective moves.
  • mmmm fianchettoey. i like this move. it opens up our light bishop which is restricted at the moment and paves the way for an eventual queen side castle. Geedubber 21:14, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
  • the light squared bishop is commonly blocked in while fianchetto'd in these positions until a centre pawn break occurs and/or the bishop is x-raying white's kingside. b6 aids a later pawn push with c5. Nerfquark
  • if he goes Qa4+ then we will lose our bishop on b4. this move does not work Geedubber 01:53, 1 July 2006 (PDT)
  • You're forgetting about Nc6, removing check and covering our bishop .. but I'm really leaning towards a different move .. but I won't make any definative statements until voting begins. ßrigaderant 02:46, 1 July 2006 (PDT)
  • oh you're right. and he would be fucked if he tried to capture the knight. tricky Geedubber 02:52, 1 July 2006 (PDT)
  • Yea .. (for those that don't see it) 7. Qa4+ Nc6 8. Qxc6 Bd7 and we go huntin' the lady. I doubt he'd stumble that badly .. he's been playing a defensive game. ßrigaderant 03:01, 1 July 2006 (PDT)


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  1. VOTE by Geedubber 00:39, 2 July 2006 (PDT) 00:38, 2 July 2006 (PDT): I like this move, but i am not a great player (was on the highschool chess team though)
  2. VOTE by Sunnybunny Yup!
  3. VOTE by medwardstalk: I really really like f5, but I feel like the knight is sufficiently well-supported for now and we can respond if he needs more support. On the flip-side a lot of strategy is requiring that the bishop maintain its pin on the knight and thus I think it deserves having some support.
  4. VOTE by Reagank 17:11, 2 July 2006 (PDT): I like the way this move frees up the light-squared bishop
  5. VOTE by Shadowcrash 11:45, 5 July 2006 (EST): This move gives us alot of possibilities on the board. Our knight is sufficiently protected for now, and I want the preserve our option to castle.


c5

(not quite)Tarrasch Defense
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Suggested move: 6. Qc2 c5
Potential Line
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Potential Line: 6. Qc2 c5 7. Bd2 Nc6 8. a3 Qa5

Just tossing this line out from last move. medwardstalk

  • no idea if this works, but it allows our Queen to move forward a5 to support the bishop (which makes a3 a meaningless threat because he'd lose his rook.)
  • I really think this is the best move available. It doesn't block the Nc6 move, doesn't leave us on the wrong end of an exchange, and puts us in an aggresive yet defensible position. Freeing up the queen works fine for more options later. --Salamander 12:48, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
  • Mos Def the best move available, regardless of what we do with the queen. But do we really want to comitt her to protecting a bishop on the rim? Seems a bit of a waste. PS i am not good at chess. wophugus
  • Just a note: this is not the Tarrasch Defense because the bishop is out past the pawn.
  • What do we do when he moves a3? Just a question. arcblah
    • Yeah, good point. This line doesn't evaluate well for us at all. 7. a3 Bxc3 8. Pxc3 ... Maybe Pxd4 after that to setup Nxc3. Either way, sucks. Alternatively, 7. a3 Ba5 setting up 8. b4. Either way, we definitely lose the momentum we tried to grab in Move 5. medwardstalk
      • Or 7. a3 Qa5 pins the pawn unless he wants to give up his rook.24.27.206.8
  • That's a really great point .. I can almost see Ze falling into that .. but I still don't like moving out c5 .. it gives him too much opportunity to 'open up' the center .. if he starts gobbling pawns, we're forced to recapture (or lose material) ... ßrigaderant
  • I worked out a likely course of moves on another board, and I don't think it's to our advantage. He has too many options here, and just the ones I've thought of we lose a pawn and it breaks him out of his hole (See diagram for moves 7 and 8):
9. cxd5 exd5 10. Nxd5 .. wins a pawn clean, followed by 10. .. Bxd2 11. Nxd2 and we really have no recourse .. and a potential fork from Ze with Nc7+ if we move/swap queens .. we lose all our momentum and all of our developed pieces and we'll be down a pawn for the (rapidly approaching) endgame
9. Nxe4 .. what can we do? dxe4 10. Qxe4 loses another pawn clean .. and his bishop is still covered by his knight. If we attempt to trade bishops, we're in a similiar situation as above.

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f6

I know its a little late for this but I just thought of it. This prevents his move of Ne5 and also gives our knight somewhere to run to (namely g5) without having to be covered by the Queen should we need her on the other side of the board should his next move be Qa4+. I am open to suggestions. Other than this move I am leaning towards either b6 or c5.

  • I just fixed te diagram so it makes sense:)
  • I'm not sure I understand why he would want to move Ne5. -Towlineeh
  • Same reason why we moved Ne4 .. advanced post for his knight. However, I think he'll keep his Knight at F3 to protect Bd2 .. he needs to break out of the 'prison' that we have him in. ßrigaderant
  • Yeah there are alot of permutations at this early stage of the game. We want to prevent his advance but that would mean we KNOW what his next move is, which of course we don't. Alot of these moves that we discussed so far may get played down the road. But sometimes the order of the moves determines who comes out on the upper hand of am exchange of pieces. This still feels right to me.
One more diagram to look at
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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6. Qc2 f6

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  1. VOTE by Salmancini: this is what I would do, but my games last no longer than ten minutes!
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