Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2

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Contents 1 Last Minute Stuff and Hot Topics 2 Organization 3 Media for FF2 4 Hawaiian fire 5 Overall structure 6 Current News Discussion 7 Fabuloso Friday is like... 8 Fabuloso Friday is like... extremely confusing. 9 Stop imitating Ze 10 Won't a Good Sports Racer post Instructions on How to Upload Images? 11 Fabuloso Friday 15 12 ARE ALL THE OLD AND NEW VIEWERS GONE YET? 13 Fabuloso Viernes Dos 14 My Ideas For The Main Page 15 15 or 25 16 VOTE 17 Gelbi 17.1 The Rules 17.2 The Word association game 18 Main Page Discussion

Last Minute Stuff and Hot Topics

See Voting

See Gelbi Rules

Organization

As the project grows, please use subpages (they start with a /) to help keep things organized. These pages automatically get a link back to the main page so it should help people from getting too lost. muyfabuloso^talk 08:54, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

(archived discussion in the discussion archive)

Media for FF2

One of the issues with the first FF is that a lot of the media people uploaded didn't make it into the show. Maybe this part of the discussion can help that out. Some multimedia basics:

• It sounds like FF2 is going to be very dependent on these short segments. Media will most likely have to be matched up with a segment to make it into the show.
• Keep file sizes small enough to be managable, but not so small that it's impossible to use the media.
• Think about how the final piece of media gets to Ze so he can use it. The sports racer gallery and FF page have places to upload your media.
• Note that video has special requirements. There was a big push to do a 'ticker' last show. If that idea had made it, Ze would have had to create this himself, or would have had to receive a relatively large file (several hundred megabytes) and needed special software to place the file correctly. He's a web guru for sure, but I don't see any evidence that he's doing 'the show' on anything more than iMovie. That piece of software can't handle compositing a pre-made ticker.Bobbie mac 13:18, 14 June 2006 (PDT)

I've uploaded a logo for ff2, should we put it in the article or not? you can take a look at it here: friday fabuloso 2 --Mischa zog 01:37, 14 June 2006 (PDT)

I like it. If there is an intro section for FF2, maybe this could be matched to it.Bobbie mac 13:18, 14 June 2006 (PDT)

Haha - we definitely have to keep the "spoiling the broth so you don't have to" tagline. - NightThree 16:55, 14 June 2006 (PDT)

Hawaiian fire

"ze wears a hawaiian shirt since it is Hawaiian Shirt Friday." - I think it would be hilarious if Ze could pull this off:

He wears a hawaiian shirt for the first half minute or so, then at random he performs a seated power move that changes his hawaiian shirt to a normal shirt, and transports a burning hawaiian shirt in the background of where he is sitting. It could remain there seen later as charred remains. 68.6.101.96 15:53, 13 June 2006 (PDT)

Overall structure

(Brainstorming discussion moved to /Brainstorming)

Current News Discussion

This is the discussion page for this section. If you have any current news to add, put it here.

Fabuloso Friday is like...

This is the discussion page for this section. If you have any lines for FFIL, put them here.

Ze: Fabuloso Friday 2.0 - 2.1 - 2.2 - 3.0 - 3.1 etc... (each month gets a new set of numbers).

Yeah, funny numbers like pi (3.14) and 99 44/100ths. Bobbie mac 09:22, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

Fabuloso Friday is like... extremely confusing.

So, is there a page just for everyone to upload random 15 second bits too? It seems right now that, to send up a mini-script, first you would have to put the "idea" behind your random 15 second bit onto the ideas page, then link to a seperate page created just for your idea. That sucks.

Well, that was made like for last weeks format. I'm going to simplify this to next week format by trying to keep some organization for people who like that, but also having a very simple "just upload your 15 sec segment" on the main page. If I mess something up, here is backup of the state before I charged at it. --Gelbi 07:14, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

Anyway, so I think we need to support the following use-cases:

• Somebody wants to upload a 15 sec segment that is almost complete and would prefer people only commented. So only the author modifies the content.
• Someone has a great idea, but needs help in formulating the segment and creating artwork for it. So people who like the idea are welcome to edit it!

Anything else?

I think the first page should mainly collect candidates that are nearly complete. So people do not edit heavily on the main page, but move their stuff there from the brainstorming, once it's nearly done. This means almost all current snippets need to be moved, which is not a good idea...

• I agree with the notion that the 'author modifies the content'. Should they wish to, they could 'open' their idea for modification? Also, commenting/suggestions/critique should be allowed for each segment. CeruleanNinja 07:54, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

• Yes, yes, that is a good idea... That way, we can keep it all on the main page (that's good because I think auxilliary pages get less exposure) and the section author indicates the status of the section. However, we should make each suggestion a separate section to avoid too many edit conflicts. --Gelbi 08:00, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

Cool, I'll take the liberty of plonking those in. You guys can unmodify the thing, should you disagree? CeruleanNinja 08:05, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

Yes, I think you are moving in the right direction... I also wanted the named contributions!! I will look at it when you are done... --Gelbi 08:19, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

• Yeah, this looks like a good idea. I did the one about internet neutrality which is pretty important right now, but I just can't write as witty as someone like Ze. I'm more an idea guy. It'd be great if someone went with that important notion and made it better. --ThinkBig

Stop imitating Ze

Be original, for god's sake. Ze can do a perfectly good Ze by himself. This is our chance to make him do something new and interesting. If you like it when he says "Asshole" or "Duckies" so much, there are plenty of episodes you can go back and watch. --Kazz 14:20, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

I wanted to say something nasty in defense, but damn it, you do have a point... ducky! --Gelbi 14:38, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

• all I have to say is "duckie?"

Won't a Good Sports Racer post Instructions on How to Upload Images?

Click on link on left hand side, "Upload file" and follow instructions.

More Instructions?

• it was so obvious I was mystified. you rock.

Fabuloso Friday 15

Opening the show with a minute of Fabuloso Friday and then ze, asking, "Are the new viewers gone yet?" sounds like it could be a great regular, weekly, bi-monthly, or monthly thing. Not too hot, not to cold, juuuuuuuuuust right.

ARE ALL THE OLD AND NEW VIEWERS GONE YET?

Well, are they???

• are the fabuloso contributors gone yet?
• Is the wiki down yet?

Fabuloso Viernes Dos

WARNING: This page is 42 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.

My Ideas For The Main Page

I don't possess too many wiki skills, but here are a few ideas for the main page.

Starting from "How do you work this thing?"

welp, I moved it to the main page, I hope I didn't (family show) too many people off. Needs some tweaking, but I think I found all of the submissions.

errr... except I lost the Limericks, I'll look, sorry :( and the links for Brainstorming, but I think I can find those.

I did several cross overs of submissions because some of them just seemed to fit in a several places. I'm assuming if people do not like where I put their stuff, they would just move it where they think it should go.

I created a TOC for easy viewing of all the pages and I will try and keep it updated. pretty industrious, eh ;)

Never did this before, was fun :)

Think I found all the lost stuff, whoopie!

• dude nice job:)

tanks

• Yes, I think you did well! I'm going to add those "add new section links", feel free to take them away.... --Gelbi 00:27, 20 June 2006 (PDT) (oh, you can edit the top of the page by adding "section=0" to the URL, like: this)

15 or 25

Some of the suggests seems longer than 15 seconds so I think the 25 seconds or more is good place for people to work on them, refine them, but if people think ze can do them in 15 seconds they can just move them to the 15 seconds link or add an additional page later.

same with the misc, area, some of the ideas aren’t finished and if they are making the page too long for people to read they have to go somewhere.

I like the TOC are you going to update that every day?

Maybe create a "15 seconds flat" page or 15 seconds or less page 2?

I see that some of the suggestions are in two places depending where they fit. There's so much to read this was a good idea, because there's so many cross overs. I like it broken up, I barely made it through 1/2 of the page last week, was too long and too much to read in one sitting.

yeah, I like it.

whenever I can

Okies, people. It's a good idea to have two 25 and 15 seconds sections. The thing is, it may be too early to title them as 15 seconds FLAT, since many sections are still being worked on and may change duration-wise by Fabuloso Friday. CeruleanNinja 08:50, 19 June 2006 (PDT)

well I changed it to 15 seconds or more in the title, but I read through a couple and they are way more then 15 seconds. But if people want to work on them and move them to 15 or less I think they should. There are a couple that are in two place 15, 25, misc and are the new viewers... , so there seems to be a lot of potential on many fronts. The main thing is that the page was getting too long.

VOTE

So how is this going to work? When is something ready?

Frankly, I think the whole voting thing is silly Ze should pick what works for him. Just like the comments.

I vote Ze should picks what he likes.

Let's put it to a vote, you vote for voting or vote for ze picking. Can we put a poll on the page?

• I don't know how to do a poll, I looked on the Meta and it's a little out of my league. But, I was wondering what if no one voted? So many people do not vote in the regular US elections, what if everyone just decided to stay home or in this case refrain? what would happen? Would it force his hand to do something or just not bother, that gives me an idea....

• If I recall correctly, Ze seemed to indicate that 'we'll all vote for our favourite segments', so perhaps he is planning to vote anyway? Whilst it would be a mega-ego boost to all those, whom 'The Master-Decider' votes for, we have to remember that Fabuloso Friday is still mainly about the viewer-writers' voices. Besides, who could possibly resist VOTING?! I love those collective votes... although it's been deathly silent here... Perhaps it's still a way to go till Thursday voting Frenzy? CeruleanNinja 13:00, 20 June 2006 (PDT)

• We probably need to set this up Wednesday sometime. One of the complaints with FF1 was that the voting period was too short. If we need to turn this in by midnight Thursday like last time, then we probably should look to open voting up by midnight Wednesday. (And I guess this is my vote to have a vote). Bobbie mac 16:56, 20 June 2006 (PDT)

• I was hoping to avoid the mess by adding the "completed area."

• I have to agree that I don't like the voting at random option, other than voting about the voting. As a contributor and stock holder I say we turn this into republic rather than mob rule and purpose we take a vote from all contributors about the voting issue? IOW, if you contributed do you want to:

1. let anyone who wonders in vote?

or

2. let ze (the professional) pick what he thinks will work for him.

Can we do this all in 24 hours? Can we get ze to say something quick on today's show?

Gelbi

nice job!

Thanks! And now that I have my own section here... let's start a word association game about the Show, except it doesn't have to make sense or anything, it's just a game... --Gelbi 03:17, 21 June 2006 (PDT)

• can you leave a few examples

The Rules

• Relax and breath deeply.
• Picture the Show with Ze Frank in your mind.
• While focusing on Ze, read the last word/phrase from the sequence below
• Still keeping Ze in your mind, click edit and add the first word or short phrase that you hear the imagined Ze say in your imagined Show.
• Since "poop" and "ducky" associate with everything, use them sparingly!
• Don't delete previous entries! (There is no right and wrong!)

The Word association game

1. Church of Scientology

Main Page Discussion

You no like ze's picture? I bet his mom does.