Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move14
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| Ze | Us | consensus | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | d4 | d5 | 56% |
| 2 | c4 | e6 | 66% |
| 3 | Nc3 | Bb4 | 48% |
| 4 | Nf3 | Nf6 | 82% |
| 5 | e3 | Ne4 | 56% |
| 6 | Qc2 | f5 | 62% |
| 7 | Bd3 | O-O | 83% |
| 8 | O-O | b6 | 61% |
| 9 | a3 | Bxc3 | 57% |
| 10 | bxc3 | Ba6 | 65% |
| 11 | Ne5 | Nd7 | 37% |
| 12 | Nc6 | Qf6 | 89% |
| 13 | f3 | Nd6 | 100% |
| 14 | e4 | dxc4 | 100% |
| 15 | Be2 | e5 | 100% |
| 16 | d5 | Nb8 | 55% |
| 17 | Nb4 | Bb7 | 93% |
| 18 | a4 | a5 | 100% |
| 19 | Na2 | Nd7 | 50% |
| 20 | Ba3 | Rac8 | 50% |
| 21 | Rab1 | Qg5 | 60% |
| 22 | Kh1 | fxe4 | 61% |
| 23 | fxe4 | Qg6 | 89% |
| 24 | Rxf8+ | Rxf8 | 100% |
| 25 | Bxd6 | Rf2 | 100% |
| 26 | Rg1 | cxd6 | 100% |
| 27 | Qd1 | Nf6 | 73% |
| 28 | Bf3 | Nxe4 | 93% |
| 29 | Nc1 | Rd2 | 53% |
| 30 | Bxe4 | Rxd1 | 100% |
| 31 | Bxg6 | Rxg1+ | 100% |
| 32 | Kxg1 | hxg6 | 100% |
| 33 | Resign | --- |
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Strategy Discussion
- OK, Sorry, I don't know much about how to maintain a WIKI, but I thought I would get things started. Sorry for the confusion - I was the idiot who thought he said e5, not e4 - my bad.--Absalom 12:00, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Somehow things got mixed up. Ze's move was e4, not Ne5. PTWhipplebang 10:42, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- what happened? did he change it? or did someone just read it wrong? Geedubber 10:51, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- When I watched the show, at the end there was a black screen with white text reading "FABULOSOS: E4." I assume that's his move. PTWhipplebang 10:46, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- I am tempted to write Ze's move as e4?? since I think it was a blunder. We get a free pawn. Geedubber 11:57, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
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Suggested Move Summary
dxc4
- Takes a pawn, threatens his bishop. Geedubber 10:49, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- It also locks up that diagonal for our bishop (not a good thing).
- That's a good point. If the white bishop moves away from the attack, our pawn will block our diagonal to the rook.
- It does block our bishop but it really cramps him in. I think this is Black's best response. Jeff 11:16, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- It force him to retreat to Be2 and basically lose a move. It really locks him up. Geedubber 11:23, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- I don't think he'd bother with Be2, he'd just move e5 and threaten our queen. I'm sure he'd be willing to sacrifice his bishop for our queen. Beyond that, I think we need to be worrying about e5. If he moves there, then we have to respond by moving the queen, because Nxe5 loses the knight to d4xe5, and we don't gain anything because then we still have to move the queen. Anyway, to recap, he might have to move Be2 eventually, but not before e5... actually, I guess as long as we know what we're doing with the queen after he moves e5, then this move is fine. --Salamander 12:05, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- He wouldn't move e5 cause he'd lose his bishop. cxd3 takes his bishop and threatens his queen. If he takes our queen then we'd take his. Geedubber 12:03, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Good point. --Salamander 12:05, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- He wouldn't move e5 cause he'd lose his bishop. cxd3 takes his bishop and threatens his queen. If he takes our queen then we'd take his. Geedubber 12:03, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Also, if Ze (eventually) responds with Be2, this pawn resctricts the mobility of our d6 knight. -87 12:00, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Anothe way to look at it would be to say the knight protects the pawn. Geedubber 12:06, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- It also locks up that diagonal for our bishop (not a good thing).
Nxc4
- Wins a pawn, but we cannot move the knight without protecting the bishop. If Ze takes the knight, we take the bishop and threaten the rook. We are threatening a fork, but we cannot do it without setup and Ze will easily evade.--Neal 11:02, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Do we end up losing a knight and bishop for just a pawn and bishop here? Probably Bxc4 is a better move.--Neal 11:07, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- I don't know, but Ze would probably respond with e5 threatening our queen or Qa4 threatening our bishop. With this move we are forcing him to be more aggressive. Geedubber 11:10, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
fxe4
- I like this move. It eliminates the e5 push, and can potentially free up the f column for an assault by our Q. Shadowcrash 12:01, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
Bxc4
dxe4
This eliminates the potential threat on our queen and may lead to us trading a knight for his bishop. PTWhipplebang 11:33, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- fxe4 seems better to me, as our d pawn is attacking his c pawn and blocking his d pawn, while our f pawn is currently only blocking our queen. -87 12:05, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
Rfe8
- Puts pressure on his knight and keeps us from having to move our king next move if he goes for check. -christian 11:26, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Loses to e5. Jeff 11:53, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
Rae8
- Similar to the move above, but brings another piece to bear on this side of the board.