Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move16
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| Ze | Us | consensus | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | d4 | d5 | 56% |
| 2 | c4 | e6 | 66% |
| 3 | Nc3 | Bb4 | 48% |
| 4 | Nf3 | Nf6 | 82% |
| 5 | e3 | Ne4 | 56% |
| 6 | Qc2 | f5 | 62% |
| 7 | Bd3 | O-O | 83% |
| 8 | O-O | b6 | 61% |
| 9 | a3 | Bxc3 | 57% |
| 10 | bxc3 | Ba6 | 65% |
| 11 | Ne5 | Nd7 | 37% |
| 12 | Nc6 | Qf6 | 89% |
| 13 | f3 | Nd6 | 100% |
| 14 | e4 | dxc4 | 100% |
| 15 | Be2 | e5 | 100% |
| 16 | d5 | Nb8 | 55% |
| 17 | Nb4 | Bb7 | 93% |
| 18 | a4 | a5 | 100% |
| 19 | Na2 | Nd7 | 50% |
| 20 | Ba3 | Rac8 | 50% |
| 21 | Rab1 | Qg5 | 60% |
| 22 | Kh1 | fxe4 | 61% |
| 23 | fxe4 | Qg6 | 89% |
| 24 | Rxf8+ | Rxf8 | 100% |
| 25 | Bxd6 | Rf2 | 100% |
| 26 | Rg1 | cxd6 | 100% |
| 27 | Qd1 | Nf6 | 73% |
| 28 | Bf3 | Nxe4 | 93% |
| 29 | Nc1 | Rd2 | 53% |
| 30 | Bxe4 | Rxd1 | 100% |
| 31 | Bxg6 | Rxg1+ | 100% |
| 32 | Kxg1 | hxg6 | 100% |
| 33 | Resign | --- |
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Suggested Move Summary
Nxe5
Eliminates the threat to the queen and threatens his knight. PTWhipplebang 11:47, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- So simple. No analysis needed. Geedubber 11:52, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- I don't think we have any other choice. Maybe whoever was using fritz can help us out :P - arc
- I'm a little worried, though. Does Ze see something we don't? PTWhipplebang 12:05, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- It seems like we must do this to kill the fork on our knight and queen. bobbie_macrap at me
- Am I correct in assuming this leads to the practically forced line: 16. dxe5 Nxe5 17. Nxe5 Qxe5 ? 874 13:31, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- I suppose he could do 17. Nb4 or 17. Nd4. Just moving his knight out of the way... PTWhipplebang 13:34, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- I don't like the thought of his night on d4, now that you mention it. More pressure on our f pawn although it is well defended at the moment. But if he does move his night, should we think about taking the d file with A rook? Maybe push the c pawn first? I don't know just yet. I sense the game is gonna start opening up soon. V 14:04, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- I think 17. Nd4 Nd3 puts Black in a pretty good position. 17. Nb4 is one of White's better responses, it makes us move the bishop and gives him time to do Nd5 or f4. After 17. Nb4 Bb7 18. f4 Bxe4 things really start to fly but Black still has the upper hand. Jeff 14:19, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- If he does 18. Nd5, it looks like our only response is 18. ... Bxd5 19. exd5 and we lose our bishop. PTWhipplebang 14:27, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- I suppose he could do 17. Nb4 or 17. Nd4. Just moving his knight out of the way... PTWhipplebang 13:34, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
Voting
- VOTE by Otis 13:07, 19 July 2006 (PDT): Voting early - won't be around later.
- VOTE by Somejeff 13:44, 19 July 2006 (PDT): This moves the game forwards!
- VOTE by Jeff 14:04, 19 July 2006 (PDT): Yay, another no-brainer. Ze is deliving his own head to us on a silver platter, and that head will be singing songs.
- VOTE by Lurker. Just makes sense.
- VOTE by Frogbeater. Are we completely reactive at this point?
Qf7
Thought there might be value in retreating our queen and letting Ze's pawn have our knight since we'd lose the other knight anyway; had to draw up the board to realise that Nxe5 actually lets us trade knights, instead of simply losing one. 874 13:36, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
Qg6
Same (flawed, I believe) logic as Qf7, just a different way of retreating the queen. 874 13:37, 19 July 2006 (PDT)
- Whites knight Ne7 gets our queen, doesn't it? V 13:45, 19 July 2006 (PDT)