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Voting CLOSED Until 7pm

Today's Suggested Moves have been posted, and the voting polls will open Thursday, August 3^rd @7PM EDT and close at Friday, August 4^th 12AM EDT (INSERT NEXT DAY Night), in order to give time for enough deliberation before the votes are cast. Don't have a username/Id yet? Get one here! and take some credit for your contributions!

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Strategy Discussion

Contents 1 Voting CLOSED Until 7pm 1.1 Voting Instructions 2 Strategy Discussion 3 Suggested Move Summary 3.1 cxd6 3.2 Qxd6 3.3 Bxd5

Please take the time to familiarize yourself with some common middlegame tactics as well.

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Suggested Move Summary

Suggested Position Suggested Move: cxd6

Suggested Position Suggested Move: Qxd6

Suggested Position Suggested Move: Bxd5

cxd6

• According to yesterday, this is the only move. V 12:43, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• Any other move wouldn't male much sense. It's too soon to initiate the queen fork and exchange and we need to get rid of that threat.Funky citrus 12:48, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• the only other move that makes any kind of sense to me is QxB, but it seems intuitively obvious that the queen is far more powerfull on the king side than stuck behind those center pawns. Kingpatzer 12:49, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• wait a tick, the queen exchange doesn't exist anymore. That bishop took out our knight.
  • That's why we'll try and play Nc5 on our next move. V 12:56, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• if 27. Qd1 then Qxe4 increases our material advantage. If 27. Nc1 then Bxd5 puts him in a bind. if 27. h3 then Bxd5 again works to our advantage. Nothing else makes much sense for white. Kingpatzer 12:57, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
  • What I don't like about 27. ... Bxd5 is that our bishop is stuck there afterwards. Ze can sit back and do something else. If we move the bishop, he does Bxc4+ and then our rook is a goner. V 13:03, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

Qxd6

• this is playable, but not as good in my mind as cxd6 Kingpatzer 12:51, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• ANALYSIS: 26. .. Qxd6 27. Rf1 Qc5 28. Rxf2 Qxf2 29. h3 -- white is a pawn down in an inferior position . And is still going to have trouble untangling his pieces. But there's no immediately winning threats on the board for black. Kingpatzer 12:56, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

Bxd5

• Ignore his bishop for a minute and try to take his e4 pawn with the bishop next move. This forks his queen and g-pawn. Looks like a good move to me. mick129 13:04, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• As discussed yesterday, this is not a good continuation. After 27. Bxc7 Black has to work to show that he really has enough compensation for his lost Knight. Snark 13:06, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
  • As Snark said, this was discussed yesterday and there is ample reason not to do Bxd5. Lets not get fancy, we can play simple chess and win easily. Here's this discussion: discussion - arc
• Riddle me this:

• Bxd5 27. Qc1 (or any similar withdrawal) - anding us two pawns for free
• Bxd5 27. exd5 Qxc2 - black bishop for his queen, and white has no response, or;
• Bxd5 27. Rc1 Bxc6 - white can either withdraw, or trade black bishop for queen, presumably he'd withdraw rather than making things worse;

White's response to ...Bxd5 is 27. Bxc7. Snark 13:13, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

• As far as I can see (which is not far as I am short-sighted person) this move leads to our quick victory.--Cubzas 13:10, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

White can't support the Queen's diagonal using his bishop as both positions are covered by black

• • This was all covered with yesterday's move. With perfect play, Bxd5 isn't "bad" for Black but the advantage is no where near as strong as after cxd6, when White will have to give up huge material to avoid mate. It's a clearly better, safer move. Snark 13:10, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

• I checked through tons of variations yesterday for this move. They all fail for black. Please do not vote for this move. Black may as well resign if you play this. V 13:09, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
  • Humor me. I'm back after a long hiatus and want to see this played out. The move history is too verbose for me to find the relevant sections of prior discussion. medwards^talk
    • Here's a line just FYI. Bxd5 27. Bxc7 Bxe4 28. Bxc4+ and we lose our rook. The main question is what do you do to protect the diagonal our king is one once you remove the white pawn? If not 27. ... Bxe4 pins the bishop to that square. It effectively removes that piece from the board unless we can figure out how to get white's bishop next to our rook. V 13:14, 3 August 2006 (PDT)