Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move27
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| Ze | Us | consensus | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | d4 | d5 | 56% |
| 2 | c4 | e6 | 66% |
| 3 | Nc3 | Bb4 | 48% |
| 4 | Nf3 | Nf6 | 82% |
| 5 | e3 | Ne4 | 56% |
| 6 | Qc2 | f5 | 62% |
| 7 | Bd3 | O-O | 83% |
| 8 | O-O | b6 | 61% |
| 9 | a3 | Bxc3 | 57% |
| 10 | bxc3 | Ba6 | 65% |
| 11 | Ne5 | Nd7 | 37% |
| 12 | Nc6 | Qf6 | 89% |
| 13 | f3 | Nd6 | 100% |
| 14 | e4 | dxc4 | 100% |
| 15 | Be2 | e5 | 100% |
| 16 | d5 | Nb8 | 55% |
| 17 | Nb4 | Bb7 | 93% |
| 18 | a4 | a5 | 100% |
| 19 | Na2 | Nd7 | 50% |
| 20 | Ba3 | Rac8 | 50% |
| 21 | Rab1 | Qg5 | 60% |
| 22 | Kh1 | fxe4 | 61% |
| 23 | fxe4 | Qg6 | 89% |
| 24 | Rxf8+ | Rxf8 | 100% |
| 25 | Bxd6 | Rf2 | 100% |
| 26 | Rg1 | cxd6 | 100% |
| 27 | Qd1 | Nf6 | 73% |
| 28 | Bf3 | Nxe4 | 93% |
| 29 | Nc1 | Rd2 | 53% |
| 30 | Bxe4 | Rxd1 | 100% |
| 31 | Bxg6 | Rxg1+ | 100% |
| 32 | Kxg1 | hxg6 | 100% |
| 33 | Resign | --- |
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Strategy Discussion
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Yesterday's Discussion about Qd1
The following is taken from yesterday's discussion of Ze's possible responses to 26. ... cxd6. PTWhipplebang 11:34, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
27...Nc5 or ...Nf6. Seem about the same to me. 27....Qxe4 28. Bf3 is annoying so let's wait to take the e4 pawn. Snark 14:22, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- I think I like Nf6 a little bit more because it places the knight in a position that they could aid in a checkmate down the line, if for whatever reason we lay off e4.arc
- Yeah, that's a good point. But the knight on c5 also attacks the pawn on a4. Snark 14:52, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- That's definitely the good thing about Nc5 vs Nf6. Nc5 is probably the better move for long term play, I'm thinking there should be a mate in here somewhere before the endgame though. The one thing about threatening a4 is that if we did move Nxa4, Ze's Qxa4 puts us in a bit (just a bit) of trouble. Of course, threatening isn't the same as taking, and it's easy enough to wait until his queen moves, which she'll have to at some point. arc
- Well, I don't think there is a forced mate, unfortunately. We'll probably end up with exchanged queens about three connected passed pawns in the center. If Ze doesn't resign, that is. Snark 15:01, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- That's definitely the good thing about Nc5 vs Nf6. Nc5 is probably the better move for long term play, I'm thinking there should be a mate in here somewhere before the endgame though. The one thing about threatening a4 is that if we did move Nxa4, Ze's Qxa4 puts us in a bit (just a bit) of trouble. Of course, threatening isn't the same as taking, and it's easy enough to wait until his queen moves, which she'll have to at some point. arc
- Yeah, that's a good point. But the knight on c5 also attacks the pawn on a4. Snark 14:52, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
- 27....Qxe4 28. Bf3 Qc2 wins us at least one pawn. Geedubber 17:33, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
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Suggested Move Summary
Nc5
This move puts pressure on two pawns, and advances our knight forward. In response, Bh5 would be my best guess, or maybe Nc1 to cover his pieces. Bh5 and we have to move our queen, and if we go Qxe4 he plays good old Bf3. arc
Nf6
This puts nice pressure on the e4 pawn, moves the knight forward, and also covers Bh5. I don't see many options for white here. arc
- This seems to cover more of our bases than Nc5. Plus, I like the idea of keeping the knight more on the kingside. PTWhipplebang 12:05, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
- Agree Cubzas 12:07, 4 August 2006 (PDT)
Qxe4
As Snark points out above, the move of Bf3 is annoying, though we are at least taking care of that pawn. arc