Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move30

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Ze Us consensus
1 d4 d5 56%
2 c4 e6 66%
3 Nc3 Bb4 48%
4 Nf3 Nf6 82%
5 e3 Ne4 56%
6 Qc2 f5 62%
7 Bd3 O-O 83%
8 O-O b6 61%
9 a3 Bxc3 57%
10 bxc3 Ba6 65%
11 Ne5 Nd7 37%
12 Nc6 Qf6 89%
13 f3 Nd6 100%
14 e4 dxc4 100%
15 Be2 e5 100%
16 d5 Nb8 55%
17 Nb4 Bb7 93%
18 a4 a5 100%
19 Na2 Nd7 50%
20 Ba3 Rac8 50%
21 Rab1 Qg5 60%
22 Kh1 fxe4 61%
23 fxe4 Qg6 89%
24 Rxf8+ Rxf8 100%
25 Bxd6 Rf2 100%
26 Rg1 cxd6 100%
27 Qd1 Nf6 73%
28 Bf3 Nxe4 93%
29 Nc1 Rd2 53%
30 Bxe4 Rxd1 100%
31 Bxg6 Rxg1+ 100%
32 Kxg1 hxg6 100%
33 Resign ---

Voting CLOSED: 30. Rxd1 31. Bxg6 Rxg1+ 32. Kxg1 hxg6 33. ANY Bxd5 34. ANY Bc6

Our proposal this time was that if Ze wants to continue along this line, we will commit to make these moves, so he can submit more than one move at a time. Our only caveat is that if he moves his knight to a position where it can be captured, we don't want to take the moves we've marked for 33. and 34. (or Ze could just go a move at a time, and pretend we just moved "Rxd1")

No on 35. ANY Bxa4 - 7 votes

Yes on 35. ANY Bxa4 - 4 Votes

No on 34. ANY Bc6 - 5 votes

Yes on 34. ANY Bc6 - 6 Votes

No on 33. ANY Bxd5 - 4 votes

Yes on 33. ANY Bxd5 - 7 Votes

No on move 30. Rxd1 31. Bxg6 Rxg1+ 32. Kxg1 hxg6 - 0 votes

Yes on 30. Rxd1 31. Bxg6 Rxg1+ 32. Kxg1 hxg6 - 11 Votes


Today's Suggested Moves have been posted, and the voting polls will open Wednesday, 9 August @7PM EDT and close at Thursday, 10 August @12AM EDT (Wednesday Night), in order to give time for enough deliberation before the votes are cast. Don't have a username/Id yet? Get one here! and take some credit for your contributions!

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Strategy Discussion

Current Position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_26.png
Image:chess_zhor_26.png
Last Move: Bxe4

Contents



Please take the time to familiarize yourself with some common middlegame tactics as well.

Also, please don't be too hesitant to suggest your own move in this section. Just use * to begin a line and add your idea, even if you aren't familiar with notation, or don't feel comfortable updating the boards/suggestions yourself, there are plenty of us that will be more than willing to set them up for you (and keep everything organized) ßrigaderant


Suggested Move Summary

Suggested Position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Suggested Move: Rxd1
Advanced Position
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Image:chess_zver_22.png
a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
30. Bxe4 Rxd1

31. Bxg6 Rxg1+
32. Kxg1 hxg6
33. ANY Bxd5


Rxd1

Suggested Position
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Image:chess_zver_22.png
a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Image:chess_zhor_22.png
Suggested Move: Rxd1
Result of "forced" moves
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_22.png
Image:chess_zhor_22.png
30. Bxe4 Rxd1

31. Bxg6 Rxg1+
32. Kxg1 hxg6
33. Ne2 (or whatever) Bxd5
34. Victory for black

Initiates the queen exchange. PTWhipplebangSR! 12:22, 9 August 2006 (PDT) The next 3 moves are absolutely forced. Have a nice weekend! - Axl 12:31, 9 August 2006 (PDT)

  • 30...Rxd1
  • 31.Bxg6 Rxg1+
  • 32.Kxg1 hxg6
  • agreed. nothing to see here. just play the "only" moves. Kingpatzer 12:51, 9 August 2006 (PDT)
  • Yep. We will never again move that rook in anger. :-) Snark 13:20, 9 August 2006 (PDT)
    • Oops, except when we take on Rg1. Duh. Snark 13:22, 9 August 2006 (PDT)
  • Why wouldn't Ze do 31. Rxd1? That sacrifices his B to keep his R... Al
    • 'Cause then we have a queen and he doesn't? PTWhipplebangSR! 13:27, 9 August 2006 (PDT)
      • I see the point, but I can't help wondering if there might be an out for him anyway... Al 13:38, 9 August 2006 (PDT)
        • There isn't, it's over. If you can show me a way he can win or draw with us actually playing (as opposed to us sleeping), I'll reconsider. arc
        • There aren't any other votes, but please add my vote when the time comes. arc
  1. VOTE by Llogg 18:40, 9 August 2006 (PDT): I guess we still have to vote even if this is the only move under consideration.
  2. VOTE by Snark 20:05, 9 August 2006 (PDT)
  3. VOTE by Kingpatzer 20:47, 9 August 2006 (PDT) : not sure if this vote is needed or not