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*Mec is correct I'm for this as well. ~DFA *Mec is correct I'm for this as well. ~DFA
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 +*Yes, yes, this move is pleasing to me. ~wophugus
== 4. Nf3 Nc6 == == 4. Nf3 Nc6 ==

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Current Position


Current board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Last move: 4. Nf3

Contents


Discussion for move 4.

The previous move is here!


4. Nf3 Nf6


Speculative board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Speculative Move: 4. Nf3 Nf6
  • I do know something about chess and I say Nf6. It developes another piece to the center, provides additional support for our pawn at d5, and allows us the option of a kingside castle. ~Mec
  • This is the best move... it gives us more options than displacing our pawn if he takes it (d5)
  • Nf6 also keeps us in opening theory, which is extremely advisable...
  • Nf6 also gives us control over e4, which is advisable as we do not want him to advance the king's pawn.
  • Nf6 is the proper move, it develops a knight, and allows us to castle Kingside eventualy. Plus, it also prevents him from further advancing on the center with 5. e4 or 5. g4 (he should have moved Bc2, but that's just him making a positional mistake, he's ours). It also protects us from the threat Bg5. ßrigaderant

Voting

  • I don't know anything about chess, but I say Nf6. Huzzah. Captainmnb
  • Mec is correct I'm for this as well. ~DFA
  • Yes, yes, this move is pleasing to me. ~wophugus

4. Nf3 Nc6


Speculative board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Speculative Move: 4. Nf3 Nc6
  • Another hardcharging knight move that protects our wayward bishop. This is just speculative though as it could trap our pawns from advancing and leave our bishop in closed territory. We could also put this at a6. What do you think? ~Mec
  • Our bishop doesn't need protecting at this juncture, and this knight doesn't threaten anything (the pawn at d4 is covered by both his Nf3 Knight as well as his Queen) .. better to develop the other Knight first and prepare to castle eventually. ßrigaderant
  • Binkley likes this move, Binkley does. Binkley pitties the fool who works against this strategy. (in all honesty, I like clearing the space for the castle if needed, and also bringing the knight into play while covering the bishop). Binkley sees a couple moves until the black bishop could be threatened.

The most likely threat to the bishop is from a pawn and we aren't going to trade a pawn for a bishop so defending it is a waste of a move better spent elsewhere, I think.

  • This covers some of the squares the f3 knight is attacking (e5 and d4). There's nothing really risky about this move I don't think, it's fairly normal. Nf6 isn't bad either. We'll probably end up doing both.

Voting

4. Nf3 dxe6


Speculative board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Speculative move: 4. Nf3 dxe6
  • The gloves are OFF! A underhanded little kill that Ze can't retaliate against immediately. It also undermines his present setup which was designed around threatening d5. The pawn is not quite in the way but it restricts Ze's development on that side of the board. It also completely opens the middle, forcing both sides to reevaluate. Beyond that it doesn't advantage us. Think of it as raising the stakes.
  • We're not gaining a pawn without cost, we're losing a center pawn (by moving it to the C file), and exposing ourselves to the threat of d5. ßrigaderant
  • Yet we lose a center pawn without actually giving up the middle, as d5 is still covered. The importance of having pieces in the middle can be overstated.


Voting

4. Nf3 f6

this would prevent tyhe advance of hids knight to either e4 or g4. e4 would be a very storng positon for him to build an attack from. Forgedt book lines and remember the basics. control the center. There is shit there from black right now. the knoght is pinned by the bishp right now. He can attack the bishop but not move the knight without putting himself into check.

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