Talk:Fabuloso Friday 2/Fabuloso Chess/Move5

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Ze Us consensus
1 d4 d5 56%
2 c4 e6 66%
3 Nc3 Bb4 48%
4 Nf3 Nf6 82%
5 e3 Ne4 56%
6 Qc2 f5 62%
7 Bd3 O-O 83%
8 O-O b6 61%
9 a3 Bxc3 57%
10 bxc3 Ba6 65%
11 Ne5 Nd7 37%
12 Nc6 Qf6 89%
13 f3 Nd6 100%
14 e4 dxc4 100%
15 Be2 e5 100%
16 d5 Nb8 55%
17 Nb4 Bb7 93%
18 a4 a5 100%
19 Na2 Nd7 50%
20 Ba3 Rac8 50%
21 Rab1 Qg5 60%
22 Kh1 fxe4 61%
23 fxe4 Qg6 89%
24 Rxf8+ Rxf8 100%
25 Bxd6 Rf2 100%
26 Rg1 cxd6 100%
27 Qd1 Nf6 73%
28 Bf3 Nxe4 93%
29 Nc1 Rd2 53%
30 Bxe4 Rxd1 100%
31 Bxg6 Rxg1+ 100%
32 Kxg1 hxg6 100%
33 Resign ---


Strategy Discussion

Current board position
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Image:chess_zhor_26.png
Last move: 5. e3 ...

Contents


Our Pawn at d5 is still being threatened by the pawn at c4, but it is protected by pawn at e6. The c3 knight no longer threatens d5, as our b4 Bishop has it pinned to his king.

Ze moved e3, defending a pawn that isn't being attacked, and his Knight on c3 is vulnerable to attack. Here is a fun chess opening explorer - although note that you cannot explore past move 3.


Sugggested Moves

Speculative Move
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_26.png
Image:chess_zhor_26.png
Last move: 5. e3 Ne4

Speculative Move - O-O (Castle Kingside)

Speculative Move
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
Image:chess_zver_26.png
Image:chess_zhor_26.png
Last move: 5. e3 O-O
  • Unless he decides to trade pawns, castle. muyfabulosotalk 23:59, 28 June 2006 (PDT)
    I'd say let's see what he does first .. if he advances his bishop, then we should castle. If he doesn't make an offensive move, let's further develop. We don't want to castle to one side or the other until we establish how he's setting up his offensive. ßrigaderant
    Changed my mind .. let's not speculate on "what his move will be" in case he's reading through the wiki .. don't want to show our hand and help him avoid a fatal mistake.  :-)
  • Yeah, probably not a good idea to mention things _before_ our move. Now that he has moved, I would advocate against castling. It seems a little too early, and there is more potential to get our pieces into play. -arc
  • It's too early to castle .. he can't place us into check so there's no rush. Better for us to gut him while we can (See Ne4 Suggestion below)
  • Speculating one move ahead isn't giving away much; it's probably impossible to have an intelligent discussion about the midgame without talking 5 moves ahead, let alone one. Besides, there's no way to predict what the community will vote on. Even if castle is the "correct" move (I'm not saying it is), people may want to take it in a different direction entirely through whimsy, incompetence, or even better strategy. Think about it this way: if he moved e3 in order to get us to castle, then we've manipulated him into doing something. There's a game-within-a-game here and talking about moves (or even providing false debate that he follows and gets confused by) might be the way to gain advantage. All that said, I won't post again like this, but I'd encourage other fabulosos to consider the option. muyfabulosotalk

Voting

Voting??? Is this like a prediction game...?

LoL .. no it just seems like some people put their vote in the discussion .. and people have forgotten to create a voting section for their official votes. Just being proactive.  :-)

+ I vanna vote fur dis one, eh Nerfquark



Speculative Move - Ne4

Speculative Move
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a8 b8 c8 d8 e8 f8 g8 h8
a7 b7 c7 d7 e7 f7 g7 h7
a6 b6 c6 d6 e6 f6 g6 h6
a5 b5 c5 d5 e5 f5 g5 h5
a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 g4 h4
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3
a2 b2 c2 d2 e2 f2 g2 h2
a1 b1 c1 d1 e1 f1 g1 h1
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Last move: 5. e3 Ne4

Watch out! N to e4 and escalating pressure!

  • this places us at the offensive allowing us to develop more in later moves. --Funky citrus 11:57, 29 June 2006 (PDT)
  • If we're trying to bleed him, this secures a knight-for-knight trade. Otherwise, it's pressure.
  • THIS is the move .. he'll be forced to respond defensively or suffer devastating losses. Anyone that knows chess theory, please just agree with me instead of specifically stating what our next move will be .. in case Ze's surfing the wiki .. :-) I know this might be asking a bit, but just TRUST ME on this one. Please. It'll hurt him .. BAD. ßrigaderant 12:11, 29 June 2006 (PDT)

Voting

  • YES! he moves the knight you get his queen
    • Uh... His queen isn't capture-able by our knight in this scenario. (NOTE: my comment is not a vote) medwardstalk
  • THIS is the move. Trust me on this one.  :-) ßrigaderant 12:15, 29 June 2006 (PDT)