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* US $5.00 - Herd mentality has my pledge. Really, I'm just pledging for good taunts, so try not to let me down. — [[User:scottie|scottie]] * US $5.00 - Herd mentality has my pledge. Really, I'm just pledging for good taunts, so try not to let me down. — [[User:scottie|scottie]]
* US $10.00 - Putting it over $200! I think we should buy him this book and/or donate the total sum as a consolation prize when he loses. * US $10.00 - Putting it over $200! I think we should buy him this book and/or donate the total sum as a consolation prize when he loses.
-* US $5.00 - Put me down for five of those American dollar thingies.+* US $5.00 - Put me down for five of those American dollar thingies. [[User:avidreader514|avidreader514]]
-* US $10.01 - [[User:Cobun|Cobun]] [[User:avidreader514|avidreader514]] +* US $10.01 - [[User:Cobun|Cobun]]
[[User:Rocco|Rocco]] 09:42, 4 July 2006 (PDT) [[User:Rocco|Rocco]] 09:42, 4 July 2006 (PDT)
:'''TOTAL: $217.62''' :'''TOTAL: $217.62'''

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Alright, the Stakes discussion is complete, see this page.

Contents

The Stakes

If we win (and have you seen the chess game discussion?) We are so going to whip his ass:

The Show: Unplugged - YES! "At least 10 minutes of Ze and a guitar performing songs." By popular vote, thanks to Ann for the winning suggestion!

If we lose (psh, yea if):

Fabulosos and Sports Racers have collectively pledged a TOTAL of: $166.95 to purchase a book from his Amazon Wish List!

We can afford The Psychology of Humor: A Reference Guide and Annotated Bibliography ($131.95): sounds stimulating! maybe he'll let us borrow it when he's done!

Note! Please do not be hesitate to continue to pledge! If possible, we can bring down the amount of money everyone needs to contribute, something we can deal with later.


But there are some issues we need to resolve:

  • What happens, if we draw?
  • We only have $20, we need something like $130 to get the book.
  • We are already up to $33 - don't worry about the money now
  • How do we practically manag the fund gathering?? Do you know any good services???
If you like, I'll give you guys the address to my PayPal account and we can gather the money there. (We'd only start this process if we lose.) I'll let you know what gets collected and after a period of time...say a week...we'll close collection and I'll get the most expesive book off his list we can afford. I should be able to send it to him directly through Amazon. bobbie_mactalk
I think the best way to go for allowing Ze to obtain the book would be to have him create a pay pal account in which we would all pay into. This allows him to purchase the book. We can add the stipulation that he has to open the amazon.com box on theshow so that we know he isn't using the money for drugs, sex, and rock'n'roll. mayorcjSR 08:16, 29 June 2006 (PDT)
That's an even better idea.bobbie_mactalk
  • Were the final stakes that were submitted to Ze posted on the wiki somewhere? If so, shouldn't that be listed on the Fabuloso Chess page? The Stakes archive seems to just list all the ideas, unless I'm missing something. --Supermissiletalk 17:00, 30 June 2006 (PDT)
  • Updated the news with Ze's acceptance, as well as listing the stakes of the match. Also included copies of the stakes at the top of this page, as well as the Fabuloso Chess main page. ßrigaderant 00:30, 1 July 2006 (PDT)
  • (imho he should put 16/06/06 back online if he loses)

If we draw ...

Either it means nothing or it means both get what they wanted (well in Ze's case, we decided what he wanted, but it's from his wish list)

  • I wouldn't agree to a draw meaning nothing. For all sports racers watching, it would be sadly anti-climatic. Remember, this game may not be completed for a significant amount of episodes. - Danetrix
  • If we draw, Ze does a 5 minuteish show, and we all put in 1$ toward Das Max und Moritz Buch or some other < 35$ prize.
  • All sports racers must meet Ze at Grand Central Station in New York at noon on a designated day and play a timed rematch that must end by one pm.
  • All at once?
  • You ever been to Grand Central? You're nuts .. hell even Central Park is scary after dark (but at least there's chess boards) .. maybe we can send him to Washington Square instead.  :-)
  • Either way, the commute from anywhere outside New York (I'm in Australia, for Duckie's sake!) is significantly more expensive than the $5 that most Fabulosos pledged for the book.

Pledge

It might not be feasable for everyone to fork over money, and no one should feel as though they can't participate just because they cannot pay towards Ze's prize. If you do feel compelled to contribute, it would be much appreciated, though. mayorcjSR

* I guess if this is a serious choice, we'd better tally up our potential money. ArgonBeam3500 mentions being in for $5.

  • I said a buck, but I'd go $3. (cheap bastard) bobbie_mactalk
  • I'm in for US$5.00 ßrigaderant
  • US $1.75 Just to make things difficult. - isaac
  • US $5.25 Just to spoil your fun... We are up to 20, is this how much faith we have in the wiki process??? The book was something like over $100 wasn't it? gelbitalk
  • US $5.00 Just reiterating my pledge, and I've got a PayPal account that I'll use to pay through. - Argonbeam3500
  • US $5.00 Open Mouth, Insert Money - SaintPeter
  • US $3.00 - I am but a poor university student -- mayorcjSR 08:10, 29 June 2006 (PDT)
  • US $10.00 - But we had better not lose, people! -Mike
  • US 5.00 I'm in for $5. I can pay w/playpal- Squeedo
  • US $15 Put me down for 0xf "American" dollars --Lordsah 11:49, 29 June 2006 (PDT)
  • US $7.00. I'm new here, but this is cool. And we can now afford his number 1 book. -- Nathaniel
  • US $5.00 I'll use my parents paypal. ~ Mec
  • US $10.00 - Graymon
  • US $10.00 - Froodian
  • US $10.00 - Ann
  • US $5.00 - Disko
  • US $5.00 maybe $10 Amazon Gift Card Where Do I send It? <---(just put your name down for now and if we need to pay up we'll work this out.)bobbie_macrap at me
  • US $10.00 - For the love of Ze...--Twain101
  • US $5.00 - Because I'm addicted to theshow, and I've been here far too long to not fund it. CipherSwarm
  • US $6.95 - JemTallon
  • US $10.00 - because you're playing so I don't have to. --Sford (ps, I didn't re-check the sum, just increased it by 10)
  • US $5.00 - So others can decrease their pledges -- Chainsaw (incremented by 5 without rechecking; I'm lazy)
  • US $5.00 - Ok, I'm hooked. Least I can do is throw in 5 bucks. -- Tass
  • US $5.00 - No problem with diluting someone else's pledge. (didn't increment, BTW) -- Pseudonym
  • US $5.00 - I'm not good at chess, but I trust my fellow fabulosos! -- LazloFruvous
  • US $5.00 - Watching the chess game, trusting fabulosos, contributing a few suggestions -- cam_i_am (ps, just double-checked sum)
  • US $5.66 - heck i'll play this game. if it means i'm helping to get 10 minutes of fabulous songs, 5 bucks is nothing. -- Tigaj
  • US $5.00 - I will have to mail ze or one of you guys a money order, but I'm down. -- SalMancini
  • US $10.00 - I'm in too — evn
  • US $5.00 - Herd mentality has my pledge. Really, I'm just pledging for good taunts, so try not to let me down. — scottie
  • US $10.00 - Putting it over $200! I think we should buy him this book and/or donate the total sum as a consolation prize when he loses.
  • US $5.00 - Put me down for five of those American dollar thingies. avidreader514
  • US $10.01 - Cobun

Rocco 09:42, 4 July 2006 (PDT)

TOTAL: $217.62

Note! Please do not be hesitate to continue to pledge! If possible, we can bring down the amount of money everyone needs to contribute, something we can deal with later.

We can afford The Psychology of Humor: A Reference Guide and Annotated Bibliography ($131.95): sounds stimulating! maybe he'll let us borrow it when he's done!

Congratulations, Sports Racers! We've knocked down every goal. The Queen Mother of Ze's Wish List.


  • Since the reason I even began play this game has to do with Ze's sense of humor, it would be really awesome if we could afford this one. And there is like only $12 left! Incredible! --gelbitalk 11:08, 30 June 2006 (PDT)

Books we were looking at before we had so much damn money:

Laws of Fear: Beyond the Precautionary Principle ($65.00) - hey, it's number one on his list! Good job, SRs!

The Perception of Risk ($36.83)

Taking Laughter Seriously ($22.65)

Das Max und Moritz Buch ($18.00)

  • I'm still in favor of (this one) - it brings back fond memories of learning German.mayorcjSR 08:10, 29 June 2006 (PDT)
  • Why don't we divvy up the collected money and purchase multiple copies of books on his wish list? Get him the $60 AND the $30 book, so basically buy the most expensive book we can, then use the remainder to buy his cheapo books. Also .. i think we should also consider sending him This Book as a consolation after we whip his ass.  :-) ßrigaderant
  • <grins>. good one. I'm sure if it comes to it, we'll send the money to his PayPal/Amazon account and he'll get the books he wants. But let's just win and get OUR prize from him instead!bobbie_macrap at me

See Ze's entire Amazon Wish List

Getting more money

Well, here is a serious concern. And maybe one way to get more money in, is if it gives you some priviledge in voting. The most sane approach I think would be to say only people who have contributed with at least $3 gets to vote? What do you say???

  • Well, that would be no voting for me anymore. I don't have any money online. Is it me out of every vote ever on the wiki? Is american democracy reverting to european democracy circa eighteenth century, where only the propertied had a vote? But let's not go into a political rant here, bad for my blood pressure. I don't think it's a sane idea.
(Update:) Urgh, I should leave this alone, but if this is the most sane approach, what were the insane options like? - Disso
    • The insane approach is to give one vote for each $ you put in. Now, at the time when I wrote this, we had only $20, if we are up to 70, then that's fine and we don't need to require anything... just that I would put more money in, if I knew the poeple deciding the vote had some stakes in the game as well. I would really like us to get up to $130 and maybe we will, and maybe I'm being too paranoid about possible abuses, thinking about it now, I am definately being paranoid. gelbitalk
  • Getting money is easier the more exposure you have. The German kid's shirt was paid for in a few days because Ze kept mentioning it on the show, and there was an easy paypal link right next to the movie. Don't know how many viewers there were back then, but I'm guessing at least tens of thousands who have heard Ze ask for donations a couple times. We don't have that exposure here in the depths of the wiki. Again I think that for purposes like raising money a board would probably be more effective. - Disso
    • PS - the German kid never got his shirt.
  • It's true, Disso. I hadn't checked back here till I heard Ze say that he accepted the stakes. --Sford
  • I agree. Paying to vote is spooky. We already have enough money to get a book off Ze's list. Let's just list what level we're at and run this like a pledge drive.bobbie_mactalk
  • So is this a pay to play now? And do you expect to lose?
    • Hell no! We expect to kick ass and get a musical show. But as gentlemen and ladies, we prepare to honor our part of the bargain. : -)

How to raise the money

Do you guys know how to do this over the net??? Like what service should I subscribe to PayPal.. moneybrookers??? I don't want to pay too high transfer fees...

Answer from jbizzl: http://www.dropcash.com/

Answer from mayorcjSR: Ze uses his paypal account

Answer from Elliot: http://www.fundable.org/ Looks similar to Dropcash.

Fundable is a collective action fundraising tool, it uses OnlyIf web technology. I will give $5 only if 50 other people do.

Answer from cjdotcom: Similar to the others, but I suggest https://www.chipin.com/

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