Talk:Video for Ray

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ORIGINAL PAGE

OK, the little bar graphs are wicked awesome. Thanks to whoever did that - Lady Leary? And the countdown thingy is neat also.

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Getting organized

We have 20 ideas, but no way to implement them.

Hey Folks, let's try to use the Discussion page for details of ideas, and the "Ideas" header for 1 sentence outlines of ideas. This way we can keep things from being cluttered on this page until we get down into the nitty gritty of making this thing.

sounds like a great idea, but all of the outlines are on this page currently...if you move them all I'll edit wherever they end up. I'm not that familiar with Wiki. Speed8ump 20:47, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

As soon as we can, let's match up all the ideas in the Storyboard, Shotlist, and Outline sections.

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Ideas (Please sign them!!)

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1º Idea

With the lack of an image likeness of the artist, we are hard pressed for visual content. What does the music conjure up in your mind? I see cubical and office, repetitive cubes rendered in 3D (easy to model) that compliments the repetitive beats of the house/dance music.

Ray's very bluesy vocals reminds me of soulful songs of the south about slavery, which juxtaposed with modern office work could be the plot of the video. The whole "bad day at work" theme with an overlord boss, rising up and 'whip somebody’s a$$' and sending me home.

Another contrast we could do is for that part where it goes all soft and acoustic. I'm thinking shots of the office-worker person, getting up out of their chair and walking to the boss' office in slow motion alternating with shots of ray playing guitar in a primordial tropical garden sort of place. With a straw hat on and denim overalls.

I see a lot of motion graphics, using after effects to fill in the cubicles or images of office settings. Here is an example of what I am picturing http://accad.osu.edu/~kgecsi/movies/yellow.html

how about people upload short video clips of themselves singing 10 sec. or so of the tune...this can be the base on top of which other stuff is laid down. or maybe dancing? would be cool to have a simple idea that everyone can do and string together. the videos could show people in the moment 'just before' eg piling up huge stacks of binders and just reaching out to push them. (on to an annoying cubicle neighbour)

Maybe some clips or photos of people trapped in the cubicle environment "Whooping" the ass of thier surroundings and/or corporate overlords.

This whole meme just screams to me of scenes from "Office Space". I imagine the three main characters in slow motion walking towards the camera (in what was originally the beginning of the printer scene)... "I'm about to whip somebody's ass".

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1.1º Idea

I like the office idea but add to the start and/or end somebody stealing the cab, plus a someone not holding a nearly empty elevator, and have the/a char look into the camera with a "BASTARD!" look. finish with the league of awesomeness logo. (*note: bit sloshed hope it makes sense) -- oopse (if no ones got the nick already)

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1.2º Idea

I like the ideas in 1 and 1.1 however I have a few suggestions. Since we do no know who Ray is he should not be seen or played by a sports racer. All scenarios should be as if the camera itself were Ray. This way we don't have to address different "Rays". Also I like the idea of a recurring cube farm, but I am sure we can do it w/o CG. I think a pan shot of real cubes would be more effective. We could easily take real footage of cubes and make them repeat. When you notice the pattern it will add more to the feeling of uniformity then repeating CG cubes. Just my 2 cents. -- chuffdogg

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2º Idea

Idea withdrawn by author. --Girl scout 14:06, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

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3º Idea

Shot 1:

[Paper bag puppet ala Fandango, in sync with the extended remix, saying: "Hi my name is Ray and on yesterday my daughter called me."]--whimsicalnymph Or, instead of paper bag puppets, animated dressed up vacuum cleaners.

Shot 2:

[Ze dancing crazy to the music.

Shot 3:

Upside down shot of Ze's lips, "Good morning Sports Racers. You have now entered the Dance-dance Ray-volution."]--whimsicalnymph (laurajean)

Shot 4:

Close-up of a typical can with the top opened. Label reads "whoop-ass"

Shot 5:

Frustrated waitress dumping bowl of hot chili in someone's lap.

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4º Idea

Ray sits on a stool in front of a bright window with a sky scraper not too far in the distance behind him. He is in shadow because of the light from behind him.

He speaks saying "Yesterday my daughter called me, because she was stressed out."

in the background you hear the sound of a stapler being hit.

"She called for comfort, and "

Camera center begins drifting slightly towards the building in the background.

"...I didn't really know what to tell her, so I was led to write this song just for her..."

The camera begins a fast swoop towards a window on the building.

"My name is ray, and..."

cut to young black woman vigorously stapling forms (with a red Swingline) in a cubicle. Barely contained rage on her face.

"I'm about to whip somebody's ass." (a cappella)

Music begins.

She looks up and the camera follows to pan around the office where we see a panoply of bad co-workers

Lumberg-ian boss
catty women at the water cooler
man taking the last of the coffee ("you drain the joe you make some mo'!") -- maybe as he pans out he can get tackled...I loved those commercials
??? Need about 3-5 more that are visually apparent and vaguely annoying.
Ze dancing :)

When the pan returns to our girl she is picking up a monstrous stack of documents just as a slimy guy starts hitting on her while ignoring the fact that she is carrying 40 lbs of paper.

"If you don't leave me alone, they're gonna have to send me home"

Cut to a side shot of the two (snapshot), she stops, flings the papers into the air and just starts wailing on him.

"cause I'm about to whip somebody's..."

Back to (snapshot) and she just gives him a withering look and turns to walk off (he admires her retreating assets, naturally)

"ass"

Probably continue on with the idea from #1 above, not holding the elevator, everyone's complete failure to help this poor woman out. I'd like to keep coming back to the slimy guy to set up an ending where he gets some kind of karmic comeuppance. Probably having to do with the cab ride home at the end of the day. Maybe he swipes a little old lady's cab (after one final pass at our heroine) and she (the little old lady) beats the crap out of him with her umbrella.

I'm still working on this one...extensions or suggestions below this point Speed8ump 20:34, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

We open with a shot of a man in shadow, like in those anonymous media interviews of old. Should probably be a black man with a bald head.

I didn't write this, but it was the beginning of the idea Speed8ump 21:01, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

(We have to sneak a clip of Ze dancing crazy in here somewhere.)

Why do they have to be black? (im not willing to start any racial fight here, im just asking) --asCii 13:59, 22 September 2006 (PDT)
I think the black idea works, he has a voice that reminds me of a lot of old black jazz musicians.
- The voice says southern revival preacher to me. Can't you just see the pulpit, and the choir starting to sway behind him? Now look at your mental image...what color are the people in the choir. Besides, I've sung in a lot of places and I have *never* heard a white man with that voice. Speed8ump 20:36, 22 September 2006 (PDT)
  - Rick Astley just called. He wants you to take that back.bobby_mac^talk
    - Rick Astley is just the soul version of Milli Vanilli...he just pays more for his equipment :) Speed8ump 13:17, 25 September 2006 (PDT)

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5º Idea

My idea actually takes a nice video camera and someone to play the "role" of ray.

Typecast -Chracter: Ray - due the level of vibrato of ray's voice, as a director i'm picture ray the character to be a african american. Middleaged, medium to larger set body type.

Waredrobe: Ray- fitting for the music theme, have him dressed up in business atire, but without jacket.

-5:02 to -4:27 - Introduction This is where the lipsync of rays introduction, and a pan out from ray in a downtown public square.

-4:26 to -3:56 - verse 1 "angry ray" - this is where he pounds his fist down on a pinic table or maybe in his office on his desk. as he walks out of his office down the street, or just in general down the street thru the crowd of people. He means business, actor must have a stern composure.

-3:55 to -3:26 - chorus

-3:25 to -2:55 - bridge

-2:54 to -2:25 - verse interlude

-2:24 to -1:53 - verse 2

-1:52 to -1:15 - verse 1

-1:14 to -0:15 - outro

-0:15 to 0:00 - fade out

- I leave the community to finish my direction of the video, seeing how its sports racers making the creative direction of it. **

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6º Idea

I think it's likely we'll piece this together from many shots the sportsracers send in...so regardless of how complicated the shots, maybe we can agree on some things to make the overall video consistent.

One suggestion I have is to make our protagonist characters wear something that is consistent and has a high chance of being available to anyone shooting a piece of video or a still anywhere in the world. A blue button up shirt, for instance. This thing, whatever it is, doesn't need to be identical in all the shots...just consistent enough so that no matter who sends in a piece of this puzzle, we recognize the character we should be identifying with.

Some other suggestions would be:

something recognizable the villians/bosses could wear. (again, simple and widely available).
recognizable actions that lend themselves to being cut together. like a belt slapping your hand. this is simple and conveys (to me at least) the preparation to whip some ass.
a duckie placed somewhere in frame...small and subtle so as not to overpower the main focus of Ray's song and Goose's great remix.

I think if we can agree on just a few rules that are simple and repeatable world wide, then no matter what people send in we can maintain some sort of tone throughout the video.bobby_mac ^talk

why not add hats as an element.. baseball caps or something else easily available.. or sunglasses on the villains.. sort of vagueish matrix reference.. - yitz

Ideas for common elements
For the heros	For the villians	Simple images
wear a blue shirt	wear a red article of clothing	belt slapping a hand
		hand slapping an ass (villian acting inappropriate at work)
		duckie small in frame of each shot
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7º Idea

I think that we should keep references to the site and to The Show to a minimum. This video's about and for Ray, after all. While I don't have a specific video pitch, I have this image of an office space filled with cubicles, starting with one worker singing the song to themselves, and it gradually spreads across the entire office, with all the employees breaking into song and dance.

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8º Idea

Moved form Storyboard to Ideas. Let's try to decide on a theme and a central idea before we start to establish the storyboard Pilot 10:54, 24 September 2006 (PDT)

Just a few quick thoughts.

[act one] 00:00:00:00 -> 00:01:05:00

So far: daughter stressed at work, doesn't know what to do.

[act two] 00:01:05:00 -> 00:02:07:00

So far: daughter calls Ray and listens to the song. ?dream sequence involving whipping the boss and throwing darts at his effigy?

[act three] 00:02:07:00 -> 00:03:09:00 Outline - A narrative about the stress of work, curbed by the voice of ray.

scene 1 (00:02:07) crossfade to an office setting. Ray is in the board room with a guitar with a microphone

scene 2 (00:02:15:00) camera tracks right and wipes into the office

scene 3 (00:02:23:00) cut to a tracking shot of the boss carrying a pile of boardroom notes, etc. to a desk

scene 4 (00:02:30:00) Woman at an office desk, looking dispondant. Gets visibly agitated.

Scene 5 (00:02:38:00) so far: reaches for the whip in her desk, but stops and hums the song instead.

[act four] 00:03:09:00 -> 00:05:02:00 Outline - heading into the city to relax after being sent home.

Scene 1 (00:03:09:00) Timelapse shot of daughter sitting still the backdrop of a moving office. Greenscreen daughter in slow motion against the timelapse shot of the office. She puts on sunglasses and relaxes.

scene 2 (00:03:16:00) On the top level of an open bus moving through the city, daughter is in the same position in the frame.

scene 3 (00:03:24:00) In an empty club. Ray has his guitar, and is singing. Shot starts on close up of ray and pulls back to reveal the empty club.

Scene 4 (00:03:32:00) Club fades into one full of people. Static camera from where the dolly shot stopped last time.

Scene 5 (00:03:40:00) camera tracks into Ray through the crowd.

Scene 6 (00:03:47:00) So Far: Everybody at the club starts singing it.

Scene 7 So far: Montage of prople around the city and the world. Everyone has a thought bubble above their heads with the lyrics while they're humming the song.

I'll add more when I'm back from the beach.

-DAVE.

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9º Idea

Personally, I think we're limiting ourselves by looking at the context of the original song. This video is for the extended remix, and should be based on the context given therein. Here's what's provided:

"Hi my name is Ray, and on yesterday my daughter called me."
"I'm about to whip somebody's ass."
Kickass techno music.

With that in mind, I'd like to see Ray embodied as an action-hero type character, whipping the asses of the bad guys harassing his daughter. Since we've got five minutes to fill, I was thinking something like a kidnapping plot with car chases, martial arts, explosions, and whatever else you fabulosos can dream up.

--Algorithm 13:36, 25 September 2006 (PDT)

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10º Idea

Ray creates a whip and hunts for his boss who, when confronted, is creating a whip of his own to confront his own boss. -- Zoomsoon 13:14, 27 September 2006 (PDT)

Details moved to Discussion Page: Images Of Work

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11º Idea

Can't do a whipass video without adding some cuts from the definitive ass-wuppin movie of all time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pootie_Tang

--voodooboy 18:05, 25 September 2006 (PDT)

Can the whole video be spliced together from Pootie Tang clips? -xLittleP

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12º Idea

I think 9º is right that we're limiting ourselves by the original context. Look at the big picture.

1: Man writes a song to make his daughter happy.
2: Man shares it on the internet so that other people can be happy too.
3: Other people listen and are happy; they share it with even more people.
4: Some of those people make remixes.
5: Other people listen to those remixes and share them with even more people.
6: Some people make a video for a remix.
7: That video gets passed around, even more people see it and are happy.
8: Eventually Ray sees the video on the internet and he is happy too.

It's kind of a snake eating its own tail thing. We can collect video of ourselves doing steps 3 through 6. Somebody can shoot steps 1, 2 and 8 together to give the whole thing unity.

JoshD 01:42, 26 September 2006 (PDT)

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13º Idea

I think we should focus on the abstract rather than going for a concrete story line.... convey a feeling. I think simply making the goal to have this handed around on the next is somewhat limiting. Let's go for something that can be used at clubs and even shown on tv without the cheese effect.

I think after the "hi my name is ray" I think we should use some koyanistqatsi type traffic video.. (or even just extremely sped up video - that kind of skips to the beat. Maybe some high contrast black and white. At the beat it will reverse ever so slight then go foward again. It is preferred that the video be taken during rush hour from a bridge overhead.... Also - at night if possible. We can use some mirroed visual effects to extend it or maybe even a time lapse of the sun - to lead into the hum it to yourself....

At the hum it to yourself we could go into pedestrians... you know - typical busy new york street - from above - sped up. high contrast - then move to a specific doorway... people going in and out... then... just an elevator...

when the elevator opens... no one is there... that's all I got so far...

sepllcehck

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14º Idea

also - I think it would be cool - if at the whip ass moment... we used this teqnique

http://ryanw.michaelfrisk.com/pwr/project_white_rabbit.html

it's a home made way of doing matrix moves... it might be kind of funny.. yet interesting... I dunno..

sepllcehck

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15º Idea

Ray put the song on the internet hoping to help a few people deal with stress at work and to offer them encouragement. Instead of making a video about his daughter, or about Ray actually kicking someone's ass, why don't we show him that his song really inspired us?

I imagine a first person video. The sex and gender of the main character are unknown. It begins with the person's boss chewing them out over something trivial... Like for stapling parallel to the top of the page instead of at an angle. Halfway through this speech, the person puts on a pair of earphones and turns on Ray's song. The boss now looks retarded because of all his facial expressions and hand movements make no sense when you can't hear the words. After that the person walks through the office experiencing all the typical things that happen at an office that piss most people off, but in mute. Like the boss, everyone looks ridiculous. At the end of the song, the person looks over at their clock, sees it's 5 pm, hops in an elevator, hits 'ground', and the video ends with the doors closing or with the person walking outside to freedom.

-Eric

sepllcehck

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16º Idea

I'm thinking that the best and most achievable strategy for this video would be to compile it from a lot of different people's takes on what it means to be singing Ray's song.

Think about "When Office Supplies Attack" or "Dress Your Vacuum". That was zillions (or at least dozens) of people, all of them spinning off from a central theme, and coming up with their own creative takes on the same idea.

What if Ze simply went on The Show and instructed EVERYBODY to send in a video of themselves lipsynching the Goose remix of Ray's song, AT WORK, expressing their anger at the crap they have to deal with all day? Then Ze could use The Magic of Editing to cut quickly between them all, and it would be like an entire world of frustrated workers were all rising up together to the sound of Ray's voice.

The advantage of this idea is the fact that it is CLEARLY something this community can achieve. We've done it before, and had a lot of fun doing it. It doesn't require a lot of direction or a massive production. Just a lot of individuals expressing themselves, which is what the Internet was made for.

-Rangutang

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17º Idea

Idea 13 + Idea 16, is a good combination b/c it will encompass a wider scope of occupations. The dynamics of employee/employer/fellow employees relationships are universal.

The great Digital Divide and the relative availability of free-time influence ZeFrank.com's audience/participant demographics, which in turn may have caused the cubicle-office centered ideas above.

To think of other jobs out there and possible "I'm about to whip somebody's ass." moments, go to [1]. --OR-- Think of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs [2], then think of job occupations related to the acquisition of those needs and what might happen... ask your friends and family how their day and work sucked....

Example:

5. Actualization-- artist whose work gets rejected by gallery
4. Status-- an underpaid leathercrafts man making Coach bags in China, or the single mother who doesn't meet sales quota at Macy's
3. Love/Belonging Needs-- a therapist about to strangle fighting clients, or the in-vitro clinic lab tech who watches his boss drop 30 viles of frozen eggs
2. Safety-- a soldier with out body armour, a coal miner getting yelled at while going down a mine
1. Physiological-- a plumber getting drenched in waste from a sewer pipe, oceanographer watching toxic waste being dumped

There's a whole big world of shitty things that happen at work... this not an anti-cubicle manifesto (y'all get the stuff in order for things to happen).

--Tapanuli 00:21, 3 October 2006 (PDT)

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18º Idea

okeyday so,

we have a man waking up to alarm clock -hits fairly hard as it is apparent he does not want to get up-

image of ray saying ray's voice- hi my name is ray.....she thought was unfair. sound stops.

image of man getting into car and going to work.

image of ray saying rays voice-and led me to write this song.....on your job.

song starts.

man in cubicle is tired and stressed. as music progresses he gets up and goes somewhere. camera goes to another person, possibly a woman who is also stressed. when the music hits a creshendo she hits someone and while a fight is being played out at like 3 second intervals there are snapshots of stressed out people at work, at home(with kids?), at a park(with dog?)and when someone comes to break up the "party" the song ends while the person goes to sit down. camera goes to original man who sits back down oblivious to what has happened and still stressed. camera zooms out very much to a picture of lots and lots of cubicals hinting on the fact that they are all as stressed as the rest. By Angus Robertson

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19º Idea

I agree with many here that the ideas for the video should be less of a linear story-line and more of a universal theme.

As ideas 1, 16 and 17 suggest (sorry if I don't include all the right numbers etc), I think it should be a collaborative video with the universal theme of:

1. being disappointed by something (at work or otherwise) and 2. being happy because of Ray's song!

So, everyone could make videos of their own versions of their "best" and "worst" moments, e.g. 1. getting rejected, having a crappy job, crappy day, whatever then 2. lip synching to Ray's song, putting on headphones to drown out your boss (good thinking no. 15!), having an office-wide dance party, just dancing yourself or otherwise acting like a maniac, whatever! Something that shows how happy Ray's song makes you! And of course Ze's gotta be in there too, hopefully dancing :) I think this is much more in keeping with Ray's idea which is not to actually kick someone's ass, but rather to make people happy, so I think it'd be great to show him that it's served that purpose!

--SAMB

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20º Idea=

I can see a generally bad day at work with Rays daughter retreating into her mind (say in a nice park feeding the duckies) while Ray imparts the valuable advice to her. Next maybe to someone being denied access to an Austrian Arrows airplane and as they stew, they retreat to their happy place (say maybe a toilet cubicle with a rotating seat) with Ray coming in over the top providing a sense of calm and perspective. - Tymme

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21

This man's daughter is definitely a teacher in middle school. -Tammie

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Outline

We see a letter in Ray's Hand. Shots are natural, grainy.

We see Ray's daughter, and her abuse.

Ray sings, we see him whipping ass, a montage of different occurence.

At the end we discover Ray is in prison, humming to himself. The daughter humms too, in a split screen. There is love between the two of them.

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Story Board

General Storyboard flow idea (set to the music) http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/Vective/TheKerriksWhip-AssStoryboard_02.swf

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Shot List

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Production

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Editing

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Post-Editing

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ORIGINAL TALK

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Ideas

I think it would be nice to use a "ray of sunshine" motif.

Does anyone with leet drawing skillz want to take charge of storyboarding?

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Images of work

-- With the lack of an image likeness of the artist, we are hard pressed for visual content. What does the music conjure up in your mind? I see cubical and office, repetitive cubes rendered in 3D (easy to model) that compliments the repetitive beats of the house/dance music.

I see a lot of motion graphics, using after effects to fill in the cubicles or images of office settings. Here is an example of what I am picturing http://accad.osu.edu/~kgecsi/movies/yellow.html ---

We could take photos of ourselves at work. If each SR had a series of photos of themselves in various stages of clapping (hands together, hands a foot apart, etc.) we could put them in a grid and use a slideshow to "animate" them clapping together to the hand-claps in the song.

In the slow middle section, have a shot of a female cubicle working having a bad day, head in hands, looking like she's going to cry. Then when the tempo picks up, she gets herself together and starts to dance.

Or we could have (an animated version of) Ray stand up on his desk and sing, and once it gets to the slow part his colleagues stand up and start clapping with him, solemnly. Then once it starts speeding up the could start dancing. (Maybe with a furious manager in the background?)

Fabulosos! We must leverage our happily dressed legion of vaccuum cleaners to tell Ray's story. Can they be animated? Can they be made to sing? And dance? Yes they can!

Sports Racers film 10 second clips of themselves at their crappy jobs. Everyone wears the same "Hello my name is:" stickers (like the ones we get at the AA meetings) with Ray's Daughter written in.

I like this idea so much I added images of "Hi my name is:" badges (with and without "Ray" written in) to the whipass gallery http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/gallery/v/whip+somebody_%2339_s+ass/

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I think the idea of using images of Sports Racers at work is a very cool idea... maybe? -adam

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Everyone sending in short (5 - 10 sec clips) either dancing, power-moving or singing at work is beautiful... Can we proceed to the next step and have a call from the LOA for SR to start making clips and sending or posting them? One recommendation is to have the 1st clip be of ze doing the robotic "hi my name is ray and on yest..." to kick off the onslaught of SP clips. -j2willi4

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Since the goal is to find Ray, it might be good to think of this as a viral campaign with some allusions to "Where's Ray" and pointers back to his present here on ZeFrank's site. It might make sense to use a shorter version of the mix so more office workers can get away with watching the whole thing.

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--- Just a thought - if we're doing scenes in the office, perhaps one shot should be the frustrated person opening up a drawer with a whip inside. Another possible image: darts at the boss's picture... ---

--- I really like the idea of sort of random clips that comprise the video. (The elaborate plot-driven ones are nice too, and a great vision, but would be hard to pull together and this way more ppl can contribute.) I love #3 in the 'artcle' section, with the paper bag puppet (or sock puppet), and i double LOVE the idea of sports racers sending video of them at work- either dancing (the bigger the better; on tables, with the whole rest of your office..), or pulling pranks on your boss, and more vicious stuff like the previously suggested whip and darts and other forms of beating them up. and just for a change of pace, at one of two of the fast paced parts we could put in a few seconds of pictures flashing with the beat uber quickly, in any number of possible combinations, but randomly sneaking in funny ones. you guys are creative! i'm sure once we get a bunch of video clips together we can mix them into one fabuloso video. <3 Sandy 19:08, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

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I like the idea of sportsracers sending in little clips of bad things happenning to them at work...little office misshaps and snafus, people stealing their sandwhiches...

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I just played the original track while using the frog toy ze designed from the front page, and it was pretty great to see ray's voice coming out of the animated frog. I love the ideas so far, but I thought that there might be a way for us to use this as well.

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A STORY with a beginning, middle and end

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BEGINNING:

A cubicle office. Workers are seated at their stations doing their normal office tasks. But our hero (Ray himself?) is seated in his cublcle with a number of leather strips and leather work tools. As he sings calmly and soulfully, we realize that he is carefully and deliberately crafting a not-unbeautiful whip of the Indiana Jones variety. We see flashbacks of Ray's boss being a hardass in various situations.

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MIDDLE:

Having completed his task, Ray rises and cracks the whip. He begins walking through the office hallways toward the office of his boss, the man we've seen in flashback.

As Ray walks, he passes desks, bulletin boards, etc. He cracks the whip and picks off oppressive memos, sagnage, office supplies. Other workers cheer Ray's courage.

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END:

Ray arrives at the door of his boss's office. He flings the door open, only to discover his boss at his desk, making a whip of his own and singing the Whipass song himself, preparing to make HIS OWN march to HIS BOSS. Ray realizes...his boss is just as frustrated and angry as he is. As the video ends, Ray and his boss, united, stride off down the next hallway.

Zoomsoon 13:20, 27 September 2006 (PDT)

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Real Sports Racers? Slide Show? Images? Animation?

How are we going to do this?
Should we get a group of SR's who are close togeather and see if they want to act?
How are we going to edit?
Should we try and get a server of some sort?

Will we designate one editor?
What's allowed?
What's not?

- When is someone who is at least moderatly internet savy simply going to create a Sports Racer chat room and send us all the link? I feel it would not only make Wiki things like this easier, but it will also give us all a place to BS while we're waiting for the Show.

-adam

Are we going to work on the assumption that we're not adding any audio?

Overdubs, mixes and audio edits are all possible, depending on need. Goose, you out there? muyfabuloso^talk 13:43, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

This is going to be very difficult without a dedicated chat room, even before this enters any kind of productive stage. I think Skype will also prove useful once we have material to organize. -kevin, snoogans775@gmail.com

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Ideas

Let's try and get as many people to shoot video as possible. Raw content. That way lots of people can contribute. Then we can have a couple people who know how to do editing try some different variations. We can vote on direction, figure out what material is needed, etc., then. And obviously there needs to be at least one cameo of a Canadian Goose. muyfabuloso^talk 13:43, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

1.1 How about having people submit video of their power moves on the job. These could then be edited together for a funky montage for one of the sections.

Seems to me we should be mixing the sights to go with the remixed sounds. So everybody come up with 2 minutes of interesting footage (including on the job power moves and Canadian geese) and post it in the gallery in a quicktime movie. Then we can all come up with our own mix of that material. Editing video is even easier than remixing audio. Look what so many people amazed us with aurally over the past few days. I vote we have Ze make a gallery for our individual 2 minute clips, then all the closet Coppolas out there can ingest and regurgitate it. Then we'll have our video equivalent of Goose. Also, I vote that we heretofore refer to all video as "footy."

aye, footy is good

1.2 A very simple idea that I had while watching the iTunes visualization and playing Goose's extended remix. Why not have it sort of like the old music videos from the late 80's/early 90's where they had people dancing in front of crazy wild backgrounds. Now that would be cool...but not very deep.

1.3 As I listened, I imagined a cubicle office. Workers are seated at their startions doing their normal office tasks. But our hero (Ray himself?) is seated in his cublcle with a number of leather strips and leather work tools. As he sings calmly and soulfully, we realize that he is crafting a not-unbeautiful whip of the Indiana Jones variety. -- zoomsoon 9:16pm PDT 9/24/06

1.4 I have posted a clip to the movie section entitled - "We Are Ray." I think it would be nice to symbolically encorporate the idea that we are all like Ray in one way or another - frustrated at the crap our loved ones and ourselves have to deal with on the job and in the System.

2.0 Super Ray?

With the high energy dance mix I get this image of Ray as a super-hero. Mostly Batman style imagery with some sort of symbol (parhaps a ducky? or a stapler?) to summon him to take care of the problem. Fits in with the concept of the bosses as villains, etc. We can have Ray in a costume that mostly covers his face (or perhaps a robot since the vocals are vocoded), which would solve the identity issue. Start with him perched on a building, montage of frustrated office workers, the symbol goes up and Ray starts kicking ass....

get various short clips from 70's era kung fu movies of asian guys, or even....chuck noris kicking ass.

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Roll Call

Who out there can:

1) make animations 2) edit video 3) ???

I think that after deciding wether it is going to be an animation or a video, option which i vote for, we should do the script and then worry about the other stuff. --asCii 13:41, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

i can edit video, and i have pro equipment to do it on. -- Portable Possibility

crisb here: I am going to see an old guy that sings blues is called Ray.. there's a tiny chance he might be the real Ray. .I'll let you know.. However, if he isn't I'm gonna ask him is he would mind being filmed.. I have a HD camera and a steady-cam etc. I work at a studio also, so I can probably get other stuff done too.. wish me luck ! :)

I can edit video... I am a video/photo journalist. - Also, as I said in the forums, I live st.louis, so if we have found the real Ray, I can get some shots of him. - Jackie nopeashear@hotmail.com

I am pretty fermilular with adobe premier and the entire final cut studio and id be hugely willing to help, also am fermilular with a few animation apps, and compositing programs, id like to help make this happen. George, ludicrous00@hotmail.com

I've shot a couple of student films before, I know my way around shot composition & storyboarding, and have decent video editing software. I'm London based; e-mail me via my profile. Cheers, Tom. -- Tom Mason

Awed Job to the rescue.

Here's a little sketch I made of what Ray looks like to me in my mind's eye. I can model in 3D, texture, rig and animate anything. I can also edit. Here's my film I just finished. This sounds like a fun project. Let's get this mutha started shall we? Here are some of my animation examples:

More examples to come.

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My idea

(moved here from front page)

I skipped everyone else's ideas for this, so sorry if there's overlap. Since there's no Ray or no idea what he looks like, and since the song is for ALL people in the workplace, my concept is to have the first part of the video (before the guitar bridge thing) be various workplace related vignettes where the stereotypical boss and coworkers are being dicks etc, but with no actor for the tortured worker - the antagonists are antagonizing empty space, but empty space which is filmed (or drawn) as if there were a subject in it. Just as the music dies down for the guitar bridge, an ever-quickening series of edits between the various scenes comes to a crescendo and then cuts to something very calm and pastoral (not necessarily literally pastoral, just in mood), then as the percussion returns, intercut the work settings again for a split second during the snare hits. When the song proper starts again, the workplaces start spontaneously destroying themselves, as if the invisible protagonists from before were going postal. If filming all these scenes is prohibitively expensive or work-intensive, use old silent movie era stock footage of various laborers and strikers etc.

Another twist on the concept would be to start with these empty work stations, then during the bridge, all the people start materializing into the scenes, looking at their bodies, sort of in wonder about becoming physically solid. When the music starts up again, they all walk off the jobs and onto the street, where they might possibly meet up for the final half-minute of the song (Times Square might look cool). Unigolyn 21:00, 24 September 2006 (PDT)

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Stanley's Violent Prophecy

I can't help but picture Stanley from the NBC show "The Office" singing this song at his desk at Dunder Mifflin.

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Condi Rice Takes Heed

That evil scowl of hers is perfect. Deep down she knows these guys are monsters, she's sick of doing their bidding and she's decided she's not gonna take it anymore. That song she heard on the Internet by that guy named Ray really spoke to her.

There's plenty of video of her looking stern and angry, doing the bidding of evil lunatics. Mix that some intense workout and piano playing footage of hers and you've got dynamite.

Toward the end, dwell on a scene of her leaving a press briefing room together with Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney or some other big shot.

I think it should end there. Although it's tempting to take it too far. Like this:

Cut to lookalikes walking down a deserted hallway behind them. We can only see them from behind. The Condi lookalike is following the other three. They can't see her. She ties back her hair, pulls something out of each jacket pocket. As she opens her jacket we can see she is now wearing leather cutoff gloves. She drops the jacket, revealing a special vest outfitted with assorted torture instruments mounted along her back.

Final sequence is her grabbing the two guys following Bush and smacking their heads together. They fall as the Bush lookalike spins around. Cut to an actual Bush deer-in-the-headlights closeup, then cut to Condi's hands pulling out some nasty hardware out of the back of the vest. For some reason I'm picturing wire crimpers and a corkscrew.

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A Shot in the Dark from QuizmasterMike

Just a thought, but how about this idea in three parts:

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Part One: The Remix

Hold a contest to find the SportsRacers' choice of best remix.

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Part Two: The Moves

Hold a contest to find the SportsRacers' choice of best choreograph to the top voted remix with emphasis on cinematography.

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Part Three: Viewer Submissions & Video Editing

This might be the most time consuming idea, but after determining the winner of Part Two, open an upload link to accept all videos of SportsRacers mimicking the top voted choreograph. Ze (or any other ze-appointed video whiz) compiles a video montage of the submitted clips, thus resulting in a slightly schizophrenic version of Ray's song in remix-video form.

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RAY The Movie

check it out! http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/gallery/d/5835-1/The_20Movie.mov?g2_GALLERYSID=6122984a4963312fbb4494ac711e72b4

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Ray Bush

My idea is Jena Bush gets her grade from her middle east professor who has given her an F for failing her Middle East Diplomacy Class. She calls her dad, George, and he bombs the crap out of the Middle East. Pictures shouldn't be too hard to find. In the end daughter hugs father amongst the rubble in Iraq.

Ray kicking Bush's ass would work too.

-- Ray Singing in Church Choir --

Ray is a churchgoer who sings in the choir. Every Sunday without fail. The camera cuts to him and the choir whenever the chorus plays, "I'm about to whip somebody's ass." The incongruity is funny AND it captures our Ray. Do you remember when Ray says, "You may not be able to sing it aloud, you may just want to hum it to yourself" That's just the sweetest and most gentle response for someone who clearly is upset that his daughter is in a predicament that he wishes he could do something about. In the end, he puts together a soulful tune aimed at brightening the lives of others. So I say we put him in the church choir.

Does anyone else like this idea? -- RJS in Tokyo

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Give Me Strength

Awed Job 17:29, 29 October 2006 (PST)

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Logline

A one sentence explaination of the music video

Ray whips some ass and inspires other stressed out workers to rise up and follow his example.

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Synopsis

Here's a brief 50 word description of "Give Me Strength"

Ray decides to whip some ass after getting a call from his stressed out daughter. Other people at their job reach their own breaking point. When his daughter sees Ray coming to help her, she transforms into her own "Ray" and whips her bosses ass by herself. All over, people rise up and defend themselves from the mess in our society.

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Treatment

A more detailed one page description of "Give Me Strength"

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Production Heavy Version

We open on Ray sitting peacefully in his chair. His cell phone rings and it's his daughter. We see her in her office being yelled at by her boss. Ray's smile quickly turns to a frown when he realizes the frustration she is enduring. Ray gets in his car and drives to her office.

Outside on a construction site a man is nailing in roofing tiles. He looks down to see the foreman pointing at him and yelling. Back on the ground the roofer follows the foreman into his trailer.

In a restaurant a waitress is busing a table. As she passes a table of four people, one woman there begins to complain about her order. The waitress smiles and explains she'll be right back. The woman stands up and demands the waitress to come back now.

A truck driver is on the freeway in heavy traffic with a full load when she suddenly gets cut off. She slams on her brakes and runs into the back of the car. The both pull over. The driver of the cut off car begins to scream at her.

Ray hurriedly parks his car and runs into his daughter's office. While running we see a montage of many people running.

The roofer is handed a mop and instructed to clean the foreman's trailer.

As the waitress is exiting the kitchen she is met at the door by the woman with a plate of food. The woman begins to scream at the waitress while sternly pointing at the food.

The cut off driver throws down his cell phone and gets out of his car. He takes off his sunglasses and gets right in the face of the truck driver. He begins pointing at his bashed in car.

As Ray's daughter raises her teary eyes she sees her father making his way past her boss. She stands up and the letters “SR” (Super Ray|Sports Racer) appear on her chest. Ray steps back as his daughter approaches the boss and begins to bitch him out, poking him in the chest.

The roofer is leaving for home when the foreman points back up to the roof. The roofer gets the mop bucket of dirty water and douses the foreman and then cold-cocks him in the face. In the reflection of the foreman's slowly rising window we see a backwards "SR" on the roofer's chest.

From behind a booth we see the woman's legs sprawled out and the waitresses fist rising and falling into her. As thw waitress wipes the blood off her knuckles we notice an embroidered "SR" on her apron.

The truck driver is seen from he waist up. She is kicking the cut off driver repeatedly. Behind her, there's a huge "SR" on her truck's grill.

Ray's daughter back hands her boss. She grabs her purse and follows her father out of the office.

The roofer, waitress and truck driver are each walking away and they are montaged into each other and then many other people. They sing the refrain of the song, “Hum it to yourself...”. Eventually they morph into Ray and his daughter. Both Ray and his daughter get in his car and drive away.

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More Participation Version

As Pirateboy pointed out in this forum post, the production heavy version of "Give Me Strength" may be a bit difficult to pull off in a collaborative online environment. Here's an alternate version.

Multiple cuts of fabulosos at their jobs.

Ray hurriedly parks his car and runs into his daughter's office. While running we see a montage of many people running.

Multiple cuts of sports racers getting hassled at said jobs

Multiple cuts of duckies transforming into their "Ray" like selves, with some reference to "SR" in the shot and whippin' some ass.

Ray reaches into his coat and pulls out a can of Ducki Whip and hands it to his daughter. She takes it. Ray holds her boss and his daughter "Whips" her bosses ass. She grabs her purse and follows her father out of the office.

Multiple cust of all the little duckies walking out on their jobs. They sing the refrain of the song, “Hum it to yourself...”. Eventually they morph into Ray and his daughter. Both Ray and his daughter get in his car and drive away.

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Script

Specific words detailing the dialogue, camera angles, shot selection, action description.

I'm waiting on comments regarding the above treatment before writing out the script.

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Cast

Ray
Daughter (Name?)
Fabulosos throughout the world

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Verbal Boards

Separate panels for each shot containing dialogue, camera angles, shot selection, action description specific to that particular shot. This helps us to better understand the flow of the video without having to go through the laborious process of drawing story board panels.

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Story Boards

Once the above stages are finished, images are used to depict the shot selection, action and camera angles.

Flicker Set

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Scene 1

Give Me Strength Scene 01

Ray sitting in his chair	He gets a call	It's his daughter

He's happy to hear from her	"Daddy, I'm really stressed!"	Angry Ray

Ray jumps up	He gets in his car	and speeds off to help his daughter

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Scene 2

Multiple cuts of fabulosos at their jobs..

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Scene 3

Give Me Strength Scene 3

Ray parks his car outside his daughter's office.		He runs towards the door.		A montage of runners.

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Animatic

This is a process that determines the pace and flow of the video by combining dialogue, rough audio and story board panels to a linear timeline. We see how long the close-up shot lasts and if it looks good right after the medium shot.

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Shot List

A written laundry list of shots. This is usefull in determining location, lense selection, lighting set up and the shooting schedule.

Ray's Daughter:

1-In office, at desk. 2-walking to desk 3-answering phone 4-filing papers 6-papers dumped on desk by "the boss" 7-sad, possibly crying, head in hands 8-calling Ray

Ray: 1-sitting in chair at his home 2-answering phone 3-jumping out of chair, grabbing (ideas?), running out door. 1 angle or two?

-cherishhellfire

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Character Study

Here are some basic ideas of what Ray, his daughter and her boss might look like.

Daughter: Short hair, modern, edgy, young, pretty, attitude + competence. Ray: Older male( late 40's to early 60's) Short hair preferably salt & pepper, strong, energetic, attractive, lean, young heart/wise eyes, left of center. Boss: Overbearing, insecure, unpolitical, greedy, working on being fat. -CherishHellfire

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