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September 21, 2007

Randy Pausch


The Last Lecture :: full lecture here



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Randy Pausch on Wikipedia

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Is it possible to get a copy of the last lecture (the one featured on GMA 9/21)? I would use it for a presentation to students that I feel would be an inspiration.

Posted by: patrick egan at September 21, 2007 12:39 PM

Ze, I'm glad that you shared this with us. It's something that I would have never found with out your help. Thank you.

Posted by: Brian W at September 21, 2007 2:55 PM

That is really great. I took a class from him back at UVa in the late 80's. He was very nice and passionate then, but I guess there is nothing like death to make you see life clearly. What a gift he gives...

Posted by: Barry at September 21, 2007 6:48 PM

Thanks for linking to that story/video What an amazing human being Dr. Pausch is.

Posted by: Mike at September 21, 2007 11:08 PM

So many wonderful points and a beautiful legacy. He's a brave man. Every day should be the last lecture. Imagineering, what a great occupation!

Posted by: thanks :) at September 22, 2007 4:19 AM

ow ow ow

and thanks for posting.

Posted by: brightpearl at September 22, 2007 4:01 PM

pop over to: http://www.etc.cmu.edu/global_news/?q=node/42

I think you can sign up for a DVD copy.

Posted by: Joe S at September 23, 2007 1:02 AM

Love Itttttttttttttttttt

Posted by: Jo-an at September 24, 2007 9:14 AM

That is some of the best advice I have ever heard.
It hit me like a ton of bricks (even more effective than a brick wall!!!).

Posted by: Ola at September 24, 2007 2:25 PM

this was a great inspirational story. i have never heard of Dr. Pausch before but he sets a perfect example on how to live.

Posted by: tim at September 24, 2007 6:05 PM

amazing, thank you Ze for putting it in front of me.

Posted by: CC at September 25, 2007 12:51 AM

amazing, thank you Ze for putting it in front of me.

Posted by: CC at September 25, 2007 12:51 AM

Wow, simply just blown away. What a great speaker. I have 3 kids too. I am a firm believer that everyone needs inspiration. Men, I feel need it even more. We tend to always try to show the hard side and not show any emotions. Mr. Pausch, I don't know you but from what I've seen in this video, you are a good man. Most inportantly a genuine man. Without the illness, you are the same person, hands down. One Love - My brother...

Posted by: Edgar Grant, Jr at September 25, 2007 1:23 PM

Thank you for making this lecture available to us. You learned his lesson on giving well. Thank you to you for the wonderful gift of sharing this lecture. I wish we all had people like Dr. Pausch in our lives. Best wishes and God speed.

Posted by: morgan at September 25, 2007 3:21 PM

Today, one of the creative team leaders at our office referred to Pausch's speech today in his feature column, which was about how you should 'Go for it', meaning you must leave your comfort zone to try for something you desire. It doesn't have to be big and earth-shattering. Even smaller risks in life are healthy, and in many ways, no less important than bigger ones.

Posted by: Bernoo at September 25, 2007 6:46 PM

I have never been so attentive during a lecture before. That was one of the most beautiful, inspiring, moving things I've ever experienced. Thank you so much for the link.

Posted by: Missy at September 25, 2007 11:43 PM

Thank you for posting the full version. A friend told me to watch this, but all I could find was the condensed version. He seems like a very special person, one that many of us would aspire to be like or be fortunate to know. His speech also puts things in perspective. Many great lessons for all.

Posted by: oddpodz at September 26, 2007 9:13 AM

many thanks for the link. It was worth every minute. Wouldn't have have found without your page. :-)

Posted by: adriana at September 27, 2007 4:59 PM

Is there anywhere to read his speech & print it.
thanks.
Barb

Posted by: Barb at September 29, 2007 5:00 PM

Wow, A guy who has no doubt changed the world.––at least his part of it. For the better of all.

I don't know about the stuffed animal goal though . . . even thought it makes sense in a wierd kind of way.

Wish there were a thousand more like him, he gives humans a good name! -wow what a nice change.

Thanks for the post - that was a good one.

Posted by: mofojuto at October 2, 2007 11:24 PM

I have just watched this incredible video. What a man, a teacher, a husband, a son, a father, a friend. The world would can be a better place if we would all take time to know someone like this.
Thank, Randy. I don't know you and never will but I sure wish I did.
Cathy

Posted by: Cathy at October 8, 2007 11:34 PM

I knew the man personally and wow, he knows how to put on a show.

In reality, he was an utter pain to work under and generally a social blight on society. I don't think he was an actively malicious man, but his total lack of respect and care for other people permeated his life. Some of the less laudable things this man has done include the following:

- Having a female grad student dress up as an Alice in Wonderland booth babe to promote his research at E3.

- Requiring students to take a class they could have easily taught using the argument "You won't really know if it's a waste of time until you've already taken the course." (I can assure you, the course was a waste of time).

- Reducing a student to tears by verbally debasing her when she came to him with the concern that she wasn't sure if she was fitting in within the grad program that he was running.

- Touting undergraduate students as being a "good source of slave labor" for graduate student projects

- Becoming known for his lecture on time management where he advocates minimizing the amount of time interacting with other people to become more efficient (by any means necessary). His power point presentation is available here check out slides 28, 37, 38 and in slide 60 he teaches that ignorance is good. It's straight out of a Dilbert comic, but he means it. (also he was chronically late to meetings)

...and the list goes on. This man has certainly changed my world. I'm confidant that because of having to interact with this man, I'm a far more bitter and jaded individual.

Randy Pausch has done a great many things, this is for sure. However, not all of them have been admirable or good. I for one will not be shedding a tear for his passing, and from the many people I know who had to endure this man, I'm sure I will not be alone.

I hope I'm never like Randy Pausch.

Posted by: Karma Adjuster at October 12, 2007 2:09 PM

We all do a great many things, Karma Adjuster, not all of them admirable or good. What is important is not our mistakes and missteps, but how we have responded when our backs are up against the wall, cornered by some tragic occurance beyond our control. There, we make a crucial choice about what--behind the social facade, mistakes, glories, what have you--we really are made of.

And when we get to that core, our mistakes are put in perspective. I am sure Randy is aligning his past truths with his sense of what matters now, and that can and should be a personal reconciliation.

Randy is made of courage and apparently no ill will for those who may have wronged him in life. May you, at the end of your own life, have the same sensibility. It is more life affirming than what you have expressed here, but the good news is--you have time to reflect if you want to. Have mercy, and eventually, someone will show it to you when it matters most.

Posted by: linsie at October 18, 2007 10:22 PM

We all do a great many things, Karma Adjuster, not all of them admirable or good. What is important is not our mistakes and missteps, but how we have responded when our backs are up against the wall, cornered by some tragic occurance beyond our control. There, we make a crucial choice about what--behind the social facade, mistakes, glories, what have you--we really are made of.

And when we get to that core, our mistakes are put in perspective. I am sure Randy is aligning his past truths with his sense of what matters now, and that can and should be a personal reconciliation.

Randy is made of courage and apparently no ill will for those who may have wronged him in life. May you, at the end of your own life, have the same sensibility. It is more life affirming than what you have expressed here, but the good news is--you have time to reflect if you want to. Have mercy, and eventually, someone will show it to you when it matters most.

Posted by: linsie at October 18, 2007 10:22 PM

wow, karma adjuster, you must be a saint. perhaps you should spend less time focusing on randy pausch's weaknesses and more on your own...

Posted by: jp at October 22, 2007 2:05 PM

I just saw Randy on OPRAH giving his spiel and I was moved to tears.

It does NOT MATTER (to me) what he did before this show. He is teaching people about death and dying and doing it with humor and good will.

I commend him and hope I am as generous with my last days as he is being.

I just had triple bypass surgery, am 58 years old and wonder how long I have?

Posted by: Kevin Michael Brown at October 22, 2007 4:46 PM

karma adjuster....get over it and move on. What you had to say had NO redeeming values at all, and you need to just keep your thoughts of Randy to yourself, or go tell it to a mirror, priest, or councelor. Sounds like you need at least one of them. Didn't your mother ever tell you that "if you can't say nothing nice...don't say it at all." Good luck to you, you'll need it in your dealings with life and the grudges you keep.

Posted by: LadyBug at October 22, 2007 5:16 PM

What bothers me is that Oprah did not ask 1 question about faith in God, or his belief (or lack of it) in life after death. Maybe he does not believe in God. If that's true, I feel even sorrier for him.

Posted by: AL Smith at October 22, 2007 5:46 PM

Doctor Randy God Bless you and your lovely family. I saw you on Miss Opera show a couple hours ago, and I am still in tears. Doc thanks for your courage , strength and bravery. God will take care of your beautiful family, you'll be an angel in heaven looking down over them, any how God is still in the healing buisness so who knows only God knows how long you will live.God bless you and your beautiful family. You have taught me a lot today. Thank you very much. GOD BLESS YOU AND FAMILY.

Posted by: Claire at October 22, 2007 6:33 PM

Dear Dr Randy I just saw you on Miss Opera a couple hours ago,and I'm still in tears. Doc thanks for your courage, strength,and bravery you'e a good man God will take care of your lovely familyyou'll be an angel in heaven looking over them, any how as we know God is still in the healing buisness,God bless you and your beautiful family only he knows how long you are going to live, so enjoy life on day at a time.THANK YOU

Posted by: Claire at October 22, 2007 6:55 PM

Dear Dr Randy I just saw you on Miss Opera a couple hours ago,and I'm still in tears. Doc thanks for your courage, strength,and bravery you'e a good man God will take care of your lovely familyyou'll be an angel in heaven looking over them, any how as we know God is still in the healing buisness,God bless you and your beautiful family only he knows how long you are going to live, so enjoy life on day at a time.THANK YOU

Posted by: Claire at October 22, 2007 6:55 PM

There are some things that are better left unsaid, and you Karma Adjuster are one of those. Randy Pausch is doing one of the greatest things for people, and that is trying to teach how to live a better life. I hope that NOONE listenes to your absured post and thinks of Randy any differently then a caring and heartfelt individual. But honestly I think we've lost tract of what we're actually supposed to be posting about and that is Randy Pausch, not karma adjuster. It is only taking up valiable space that could be used to give Randy the admiration he deserves.

Now to get back on the topic that we should all be discussing, Randy.

You have touched me in ways that I hope to take with me each and everyday. I don't think that you could prepare your family any better then you have. Your children are very fortinuate to have such a great father. They will be very blessed with your memory. I hope that someday I can touch half as many peoples lives as you were able to. Thank you Randy and may God bless you and take you under his wing.

Posted by: Living Life at October 22, 2007 9:03 PM

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET A COPY(VIDEO OR DVD) OF RANDYS SPEECH. I WAS SO INSPIRED AND THERE ARE A FEW FRIENDS I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IT WITH.THANKYOU

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Posted by: Sue Dachs at October 23, 2007 12:38 AM

karma - tallying up your entire list of allegations would, even if accurate, pale in comparison to what your statements, timing and decision to air them publicly say about you as a human being.

Posted by: EH at October 23, 2007 1:36 AM

Dear Randy,
I have read and heard testimony that Cancer CANNOT live or survive in an alkaline body. Please try drinking 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water at least once a day. It will destroy cancer cells. Or 1/4 tsp twice in a day. Oxygen will destroy cancer cells...you can get this from apple skins..cancer hates oxygen....please try to do what you can to alkalinlize your body....please try to call :Nutritional Living" Dr Ward Bond from Christian Television Network (CTN) he will talk to you and explain what to put in your diet.....Please, please try this. I strongly believe things can "seem" so grim and final that things can be reversed!!!! I believe it's Never too late to take yet another approach.

Posted by: sheila at October 23, 2007 1:48 AM

I was really impacted by this story. That was the best advice I have ever received. " regret not what you have done but what you haven't done"

Posted by: mikemar252003 at October 23, 2007 5:19 AM

I had the pleasure of randomly finding this video online and I was very touched. It's unfortunate that the NCI (National cancer institute) only receives approximately 1.9 billion dollars a year for cancer research. It is very unfortunate that because of this lackluster attempt to cure a disease that ravages the human body is so under prioritized by our federal government in terms of monetary support that we have to lose people like Randy and so many other people just like him.

What is even more disheartening is reading Linus Pauling PhD and his thoughts on the bureaucracies that organize cancer research, "Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud and that the major cancer research organizations are derelict in their duties to the people who support them." - Linus Pauling PhD

I feel very privileged to have found this video of his last lecture, and I hope his family stays strong.

-Brant

Posted by: Branton Plaster at October 23, 2007 7:09 AM

It is funny, because I watched the last lecture of Randy Pausch today and it just came at the right time for me. I have been living abroad away from family and old friends for over 5 years now and this experience brings a lot of lessons, both good but at times feelings of loniless and isloation creeped in. Or better, I allowed them to creep in. Randy's speech today made me reaslise again that life is what we make of it. I think during his Oprah talk he stated that 10% of life is black, 10% white and the 80% that is left is grey. And it is for us to fill in this greay-ness with light or with negativity. And after today, I am reminded again that we do ourselves and others much more honour if we turn to that light! So thank you very much for that Randy and for helping me to remember that again. Something my parents always taught me as well, but at times one forgets..

with love to you all, wietske

Posted by: DutchWietske at October 23, 2007 8:36 AM

Hey Karma adjuster, no one wants to hear your negative comments. It's all about being positive in life. Must be great to be as perfect as you. ( Yes, that is sarcasim) And don't worry Karma, you are nothing like Randy, that is obvious.

Posted by: Kris at October 23, 2007 2:59 PM

Hi, I was a student of Randy's, just last year I guess. I graduated from the grad program he co-founded. He is one of the most important, insightful teachers I have ever had--and seeing the way he's been handling his struggle, I can only say he's still teaching me more than ever. A life lived with half the integrity and passion as Randy's would be a life well lived indeed.

I'm only posting this though, oddly enough, to back up what Karma Adjuster said. Randy is nothing if not tough. And there were times when his gracelessness, combined with a certain dash of self-acknowledged arrogance, served to hurt the people around him if they weren't used to hearing the brutal truth. So I don't think we should collectively pounce on someone if they share another side of the story.

Randy is a geek, one of the best I've ever met. Our commonest faults as a group is probably insensitivity. Acknowledging that seems to me to be good and healthy, because we can't fix a problem we don't understand. So it seems ironic that Adjuster displayed the same character flaw that he was pointing out in Randy.

-PL-

Posted by: phil at October 23, 2007 7:30 PM

Karma Adjuster -- I know you too well. You are overly insensitive, insecure, and arrogant. Randy said something to you once that you took way too personally. He was more intelligent than you, more accomplished, and more recognized. You were envious and so you turned those ugly feelings in yourself around and made Randy a bad person. You even try to malign him secretly and anonymously on message boards. Even now that Randy is dying, you still can not let this go. You hate it that it his idealized and loved. Let go of the jealousy, Karma, and try to live a more peaceful life. Do this for yourself. --- Amy

Posted by: Amy at October 24, 2007 7:49 AM

Karma Adjuster -- I know you too well. You are overly insensitive, insecure, and arrogant. Randy said something to you once that you took way too personally. He was more intelligent than you, more accomplished, and more recognized. You were envious and so you turned those ugly feelings in yourself around and made Randy a bad person. You even try to malign him secretly and anonymously on message boards. Even now that Randy is dying, you still can not let this go. You hate it that it his idealized and loved. Let go of the jealousy, Karma, and try to live a more peaceful life. Do this for yourself, for your own karma--- Amy

Posted by: Amy at October 24, 2007 7:51 AM

Karma Adjuster - somehow Phil has acknowledged the same qualities you did, but in a way that isn't negative and snide. It doesn't matter what he did in the past, when he has put such an important, worthwhile message out TODAY. None of us are perfect - he may have been the arrogant person you both say he is/was. What is wrong with people today is that they choose to focus on the negative instead of acknowledging the positive. Forgiveness is a powerful tool and should be used in times like this.

Posted by: Tracy at October 24, 2007 12:19 PM

After seeing Randy Pausch on Oprah this week, I did a Google search to learn more about him. That's how I came upon this web site.

I was very touched by the lecture that he gave on Oprah. After reading most of the comments here, I can see that my life & heart weren't the only ones impacted by this extraordinary ordinary man.

I too, have a few comments that I'd like to share. To those of you who know Mr. Pausch personally, either through friendships you may have formed with him, or those of you who are or have been students of his through out the years, I hope you realize how fortunate you are & have been to have him in your life.

I have read only one negative comment here & to the person who wrote it, I say this....

"Karma Adjuster",
First & foremost, I think what needs adjusting is your negative attitude.

I would think that Mr. Pausch has more important things to concern himself with at this point, than to worry about whether he rubbed one person the wrong way. If, in the past, he has offended anyone for any reason, I'm certain that the matters, if any, have long since been resolved. If not, then I recommend that the affected individuals who may have issues with Mr. Pausch take such matters up with him personally & privately, & not plaster them as a means to right a personal vendetta on a public message board.

I am not an overly religious person by any stretch of the imagination, however, people do make mistakes & it isn't up to us as individuals to judge one another. That right belongs to One, & One alone, in my opinion. God isn't in the business of condemning, He's in the business of forgiving. From reading your comments, I got the impression that you feel superior & above all else. If that is the case, then you may wish to consider contacting Pope Benedict in regards to the proper procedure of having you declared a Saint. Despite your attitude of superiority, I'm certain that you have made your share of mistakes, so in my opinion, you have no right to point fingers & criticize anyone else for theirs. A few scriptures come to mind....
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
"Take the log out of your own eye, before trying to remove the splinter out of someone else's eye."
"You reap what you sow."

Obviously, Mr. Pausch's life & teachings have had a positive impact on many people, far more so than the negative comments of one. The bottom line is pick & choose your battles. Stand up for something that matters & don't sweat the small stuff. The
negative attitude you displayed in your comments, is one of the things that's wrong with the world today. There's far too much anger & hatred running rampant these days. Remember that what goes around, comes around. Apparently you're an "Eeyore". I suggest & honestly hope that you're able to let go of the grudges that you're holding on to. If you don't, then I'm afraid that you'll be in for a difficult lesson to learn. That being this....If you don't change your ways, then you're likely to find yourself all alone at the times when you need a friend the most. That would make for a very lonely existence. I hope what I've said gives you or anyone else who happens to read this something to think about.

As for Mr. Pausch, yes, I believe there are such things as miracles, & that there is a Power far greater than any medical Dr. that is going to decide the course of things. I hope Mr. Pausch feels & knows that. As to the question asked here....Whether he believes in that higher power....My opinion is that it is a personal & private matter, between each person & God. Personally, given the content of Mr. Pausch's last lecture when he appeared on Oprah, my feeling is that he does believe in that Higher Power. After all, he did say that he is open to a miracle, & hopefully & if it's meant to be he will receive one. A positive attitude is a major stepping stone to over coming adversity, & Mr. Pausch certainly has that. So, I along with everyone else, wish him all the best. Whatever happens, I hope he finds a sense of contentment in knowing that he has deeply impacted & touched the lives of many people in a positive way. If only everyone could say such a thing, then this world would be a much better place. Thanks to everyone here for letting me share my thoughts.

Posted by: Happy Heart at October 24, 2007 1:39 PM

Poor sad Karma, you are one of those people that blames everyone else for their problems. I hate that for you. You will miss out on so much in life and be very alone and again blame others for your state of affairs. I wish that you could understand how much your attitude toward life will damage not only your career, but your personal life. Take responsibility for yourself and quit judging others. You have plenty of your own flaws to work on.

Posted by: Rachel at October 24, 2007 5:55 PM

being a university instructor for years and having my "last lecture" coming up this december, along with also having a young child, prof. randy's situation, message, and spirit has had an impact on me. the strength he is displaying, for the sake of his family, is incredibly admirable. i anticipate that the positive subconscious effects it will have on his children's lives and future will be very significant. while my last lecture will most certainly not be as stirring and insightful, i will likely think of his message at that time at some point, and shall continue to be grateful for all the blessings in my life. best wishes to prof. randy and his family.

oh, and to karma adjuster: you did confirm one thing; you truly carry bitterness in your heart. bummers for you dude/dudette. careful, it may have equally destructive properties and effects on your life as a cancer. at the very least, it seems to have people sadly shaking their head at this side of your personality.

Posted by: kaveman at October 25, 2007 4:18 PM

I do not know Mr. Pausch. My only knowledge of him comes from the frequent tv coverage he has recently had and the numerous postings that can be found on the web related to his condition and his final lecture.

Alot of people on this blog have lashed out at Karma but it is important to understand that not everyone is affected by Mr. Pausch's speech the same way. Some have said that Karma must have a miserable life because of the statements that were in the posting. But, I also was not moved by the speech. In fact, it seemed to me to be one of the greatest examples of self-promotion that I have ever witnessed. I don't know how many times he repeated "I only have a few months to live" because I stopped counting and found myself responding audibly "Ok, I get it". Perhaps no one else noticed how many times he has said "This speech was only intended to be heard by my children". As a father who has two children who are now both adults, I have to say that his statement seems completely phony to me. If it seems genuine to you then more power to you but it does not to me. The whole thing just doesn't work for me. He is clearly an articulate and effective public speaker but that does not mean that I'm buying everything he is saying. I do not believe that he will be gone in 3-6 months (as he keeps repeating). I also don't believe that he will be gone in 5 years.

We are a "feel good" nation and that is what made his speech so successful. To me, there was nothing of true value in his speech and throughout the entire thing I felt that the message being conveyed (if people could stop crying long enough to interpret it) was "hey, look at me".

Karma good posting for speaking your mind instead of following the herd into "group think".


Posted by: westvaco at October 26, 2007 6:44 PM

Hey Negative Nelly (aka Karma Adjuster):
It is a shame that people like you are in this world. Anyone who puts others down for petty things (especially when a man is dying!) proves one thing - you are insecure and jealous. This doctor did not address his lecture to you, and didn't ask for your opinion. Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinion, however what happened to "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all"?! Karma is a bitch Mr. Adjuster, and if I could take some of the 'thoughtful' words that came right out of your mouth it would go something like this: I for one will not be shedding a tear for your passing whenever that day comes, and from the many people who may know you, I'm sure I will not be alone.

Posted by: Simplegirl at October 27, 2007 3:50 PM

Randy's lesson is a blessing to me. He has touched the lives of many people on this planet. He recognized his mission in life and attempted to accomplish his life goals which is to teach others about what matters in life. The quality of our life is determined by how we lived life, our intergrity and ways in which we touched others life as we walked on this journey of life or life's path. At the end of the day....we will die while the next generation occupy this earth. Luckily, we still have opportunity to change our lives and strenghten things.

Randy have had time to prepare himself for death, some may never have that opportunity. I recently lost my only "very healthy brother " in a helicopter crash at the age of 48yrs. It happened in a flash and he was gone. Karma Adjuster......You too will die someday. Retrace your thought processes, forgive so that you can have peace like Randy.
From eaglegal

Posted by: Eaglegal at October 27, 2007 4:32 PM

Karmer adjuster i am sorry for you. you are such a evil nasty unforgiving piece of work. Please get some help soon. i wonder what your last days will be like.

Posted by: Ann Warner at October 27, 2007 9:47 PM

If you knee-jerk weinies can't acknowledge the truth about this arrogant, insensitive jerk, just because he is dying, you need a course in reality therapy.

A jerk is a jerk is a jerk ... and dying doesn't fix that.

Posted by: Rick at October 28, 2007 9:20 PM

Karma,...in the words of Randy, "an appology has three parts: 'I'm sorry,' 'it's MY fault,' and 'how can I make it better?'"
Karma, malice held within you remains with you and you alone. The good news is, if you, like many of us, are following Randy's prognosis blog you'll find that YOU still have time to appologize. Given his current perspective, I'm certain Randy would love to hear from you personally so that YOU might rectify any ill (and allow him equal chance to do the same.)
Kudos for your honesty...and praise to you (albeit premature) for your pending appology. After all, ironically Randy was also a deliverer of a truth I'm sure is evident in your case, "No one is pure evil, if you wait long enough you will see the good in them." That Randy can find that of you before he leaves this life is my only hope. The ball is in your court.

Posted by: Monty at October 28, 2007 10:28 PM

For the most part, karma's opinion is an expression of his experience of Randy. It has clearly been an unpleasant one for him.

There is a lot of talk about 'judgement' in the following postings.
However, to label, and deny someone their experience is the ultimate judgement.

You are not a bad person because you feel 'bad' or a good person because you feel 'good'.

To be a healthy, aware, authentic and effective human being requires a recognition of our full self. This requires us to know our good and bad feelings.

Describing someone as 'overly sensitive' just implies they are more sensitive than you. I feel the judgement here, however, I would say that increased sensitivity is a good thing.
Unfortunately in a relative society that only chooses to see one side, this is clearly very difficult for karma to express.
I'm not surprised Karma would appear as 'insecure'. It takes great courage to express ones self when the tide is against you.

Instead of being so quick to judge karma, take a moment to consider if he is providing an opportunity to see a fuller picture. Something we haven't collectively envisioned yet.

Randy makes a strong case for the ego and following your dreams. Mind over matter. "If things get in your way, life is testing you to see how much you want it"
Could it not also be true that when life but obstacles in your path, it is guiding you in a different direction that would be better for you in the long run?

Many outstanding leaders have pursued their goals to success in their eyes. However, it doesn't mean their vision was a celebrated one for them or society as a whole.

Nature and our health is the surest way to bring us back into balance and alignment with the greater good of humanity.

On hearing that Randy had cancer, I immediately asked myself, why is his body destroying itself?

Our body and our feelings are our greatest teacher, more than any outside opinion.
To be driven by someone who believes they are superior and knows better than you is actually quite limiting to our development.

It is often hard to recognize because we are full of conditioning that makes someone else is responsible, taking care of us, knows best, is in charge. Parents, teachers, priests, politicians, media.
We tend to glorify them when we like what we hear and give them general authority over us.
When something is delivered by someone who is 'successful' in their own right and they believe they are serving you for your greatest good. This is very inspiring and seductive. Which is all well meaning.

But what if they are wrong?

Many people assumed that karma's opinion was not welcome. Well the truth is, you are wrong, because I wanted to hear it. You may not like what I say. But it is the truth.
I don't agree with karma that 'Randy is a blight on society' but I was interested to hear that he felt humiliated and oppressed by him.
No one likes to feel 'malice' but it is a real feeling borne of oppressive behaviour.

Is randy oppressing another sensitive more humble side to himself when he insists he knows whats best all the time?
I like to see vision and openness in people.
But does it have to take death to bring us to that?

I prefer universal sincerity over ' personal happiness'. Once we all learn to be sincere and can speak our whole truth without fear of being slammed down, we may then start to find solutions to our global issues. The world can only then become a much more tolerant and harmonious place...... which would actually make me, personally, very happy!

Posted by: pippa at October 29, 2007 6:11 AM

I guess the real argument here -- is it reasonable to tell an asshole he is an asshole if he is dying?
Even if it's Saddam Hussein.
I think not.
Pouring a can of soda on the back sit of a new car tells me enough about a man for me not to like him.
Video and lecture is an obvious act of self-advertising. Randy himself said he is embarrassed about it, and that's exactly why. If he did it for the kids, it should've been just for the kids.
I also agree with what westvaco said on October 26, 2007 6:44 PM
For those sissies who were overly moved by this video I suggest taking a look at youtube clips of our boys and girls dying in Iraq. You'll find something real to cry about.

Posted by: vasche at October 29, 2007 10:28 AM

Some lessons from Randy Pausch’s last lecture that especially moved me:

1. Brick walls are there for a reason: they let us prove how badly we want things.
2. Experience is what you get when you didn’t get what you wanted.
3. Never lose the child-like wonder.
4. If we do something which is pioneering, we will get arrows in the back. But at the end of the day, a whole lot of people will have a whole lot of fun.
5. Be good at something; it makes you valuable.
6. If you live your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself, and the dreams will come to you.

Posted by: Sara Gold at October 29, 2007 2:36 PM

Did not Randy Pausch say tell the truth? Did not Karma Adjuster tell the truth? Do you know if he did or did not? If you severely criticized Karma Adjuster, then you really got nothing of importance from Prof. Pausch's last lecture.

Posted by: Doug39a at October 30, 2007 6:36 PM

>> I would think that Mr. Pausch has more important things to concern himself with at this point, than to worry about whether he rubbed one person the wrong way. If, in the past, he has offended anyone for any reason, I'm certain that the matters, if any, have long since been resolved.<<

Dont be so sure of that Happy Heart! I never knew the guy personally but a lot of professors have that quality of being very arrogant and insensitive. Its not my place to judge the character of someone I dont know but Karma Adjuster I really Do sympathize with you-but did you know this guy personally or did you simply know someone who was a grad student of his or something like that?
If I presume the former than I think you should talk with him about this before its too late. When a person is dying, the right thing to do is to try to make peace with those that they rubbed the wrong way and that they hurt.
&vasche-I agree with what you said but cut the pro-war bullshit propaganda! It aint got NOTHIN' to do with Randy Pausch.

Posted by: Anton at November 4, 2007 10:59 PM

Sorry to get political but Bush has done inifinitely worse at the hands of ALL of us(by not stopping it, yes) and he will never be this insightful. I agree that if you are just going to trash talk him shut the 'ell up. I haven't done as much as he and if I were to be fortunate to be in such a position to make such a speech I am sure there are jerks in MY life who would remember every jerky thing I had done as well. Thanks RP. Your lecture changed the course of my life...even if only slightly now. I feel a deeper impact. And to the nay sayers...do something about it or shuttie! The man is dying quite quickly for f's sake. Choose perspective. EVERY smart person gets arrogant.

Posted by: . at November 7, 2007 3:26 AM

I have read, with a great deal of interest, as a former teacher in Europe, now retired, all the comments posted. I have been made aware of R.P.'s special situation by my son, who selected
this 'special event' as a subject in his toastmaster speech to other club members. He was that impressed.

And so should we be. It takes an extraordinary man, at this young age, to face probably life's end, with his 'enthusiasm', whether true or not totaly true

Posted by: Nicolas at November 18, 2007 2:00 PM

Karma Adjustor brought real life to the story of this man and for that I thank him. We all have experience both with people who have learned from us and others who react negatively ...for a long list of reasons that are part of the nature of each person. If I can stop taking it personally, I can just experience compassion and curiosity. As a hospice volunteer with cancer patients, I recognize many facets in Randy's words and in his wordless expressions, facets that my mind is ready to label as positive or negative. But what I judge "good" and "bad" are just different sides of the process and are in all of us. I learn from everyone and hopefully become wiser and more accepting with every year.

Posted by: dvj at November 19, 2007 10:26 AM

We live in a nation of mindless, benumbed positivitism whereby if one doesn't express an idea that is completely positive, one's sentiments are dismissed.

While it is certainly tragic that Randy Pausch has a terminal illness at a young age, and he shouldn't have to face a brick wall at this point in his life, I, too, find his grandstanding in his last months of life off-putting.

But we all love feel-good stories with lots of emotion, and his is the ultimate one.

Karma Adjuster's experience is as valid as those who give Professor Pausch a thumbs up. Why is it that only positive things are allowed to be said? And why would it be inappropriate, even now, when Professor Pausch is dying, that he not be held accountable for the harm he has caused others? It's like excusing a child who did something unkind because he's a child.

Would it not be better if we accepted Randy Pausch for who he is -- that is -- a complex human being who, in fact, helped and harmed others?

People are complex. No one is all bad and all good, and, I strongly suspect, Randy Pausch fits into that category as well. Dying people are no less accountable for the good and harm they have caused others than anyone else. In fact, if one is dying, one is MORE accountable. Let's get the issues resolved as soon as possible - no?

There have been two posts here that have attested to this man's insensitivity to women, to students of both sexes, and to the feelings of others. I would think sweeping this stuff under the rug would be the worst possible thing to do. Rather, it is the perfect occasion, given the gravity of Prof. Pausch's situation, for him to make right what was wrong. Perhaps if he could remove himself from the spotlight, cameras and audiences long enough to meet one-on-one with those whom he has hurt, he would discover real peace. But then, no one would know about this -- it wouldn't be recorded by the cameras, would it?

Who are we to judge, you say? If someone else experienced pain at this man's hand, why WOULDN'T we hold him accountable? Are we a nation of infants who can never be held accountable for what we say and do? Never be corrected?

I beg to differ. We are all responsible for what we say and do (in this case, said and did) to others, whether we are dying or not.

Karma Adjuster experienced this man first-hand, and so did the second student. Isn't it interesting that the only two people on these postings who actually knew and worked with Randy Pausch posted far less hysterical, worshipping posts but more measured, realistic ones about this man? Although they express it differently, they essentially are saying Pausch is a multi-dimensional man, capable of teaching well, inspiring others and also hurting others. In other words, he's human.

Why is it our society has such trouble with the concept of each person assuming responsibility for himself? Current circumstances notwithstanding, Randy Pausch has a compelling reason to resolve these issues with these two people as soon as possible, and they have a responsibility to listen to him with an open mind and heart.

Denying Pausch's responsibility because we all want a participate in a touchy-feely story is the real void here. Resolution is only possible when the offender takes responsibility. If Randy Pausch apologized with sincerity to these two former students, I am certain their anger would, in part, dissipate.

Karma Adjuster in essence is saying this man is not a saint -- he was very capable of and in fact, DID inflict harm -- and I'm hurting. One cannot repress harm caused by others. And I would say to Karma Adjuster, confront Randy Pausch this very second so that both you and he can resolve this before it's too late. It's wonderful opportunity for you both and is far more important than Pausch's last-ditch grab for the limelight.

Terminal cancer does not excuse terminal offenders. These two former students were courageous.

I love some of what Randy Pausch says in his lecture. Indeed, he does share some life lessons. But his personal responsibility to others is more important than evangelizing on TV in the final months of his life. Way more important. An apology and a dialogue needs to open up -- right now.


Posted by: Toby at November 20, 2007 12:39 PM

Some of you make this sound like he's hitting the dinner circuit with his "stump speech."

He conducted a last lecture for a small group of people (400) at CMU; mostly current/former students, collegues, and friends. His message grew a life of its own and he ended up on Oprah.

How is this self-serving or some sort of advertisement?

Posted by: Paul at November 23, 2007 4:14 PM

How is Randy Pausch's speech self-serving? Go to his web page and read it's contents. The entire page resonates "Randy Pausch" and even overshadows his family. Randy has a power point document on his web site. Read it and look closely at all of the slides. On one slide you will see his memo pad which he had personally designed with his own photo on it. I seriously doubt that anyone could possibly love Randy Pausch more than he loves himself.

Someone in these postings said that Randy says "I only have a few months to live" several times in his speech. After listening to his speech I agree that he does say that way too many times for it to seem like anything other than a self-serving effort to me.

I also can not help but be a little curious as to how much money has been donated to him from viewers and readers as a result of his final speech. Not to the cancer cure foundation he mentions on his web page but to him personally. Another thing I agree with is that he will not pass away like he says he will in three to six months.

Students who personally knew Randy have described him as arrogant and extremely self-centered and from what I have seen of Randy they are correct in their assessment of him.

Posted by: Roger at November 24, 2007 12:00 PM

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Stop talking, stop whining, live your lives and stop GOSSIPING! Geez! Don't you people have anything better to talk about than all of this? I think we would ALL be better off (including me!) if we got off the computer and started living our lives and helping other people instead of spending all this time trying to analyze whether a dying man did or did not live a good life. How would you like it if it were YOU people were analyzing, whether good or bad???

Posted by: Kinda cynical at November 25, 2007 10:09 PM

I have seen the light. I am confident that after reading the clearly well thought-out and well structured poetry from November 25, 2007 10:09 PM above I know that I am a far wiser man than I was before.

Realizing the error of my ways makes me want to apologize to Randy Pausch. Randy, I'm sorry for saying that you were arrogant for placing your own photo on your memo pad. I was unaware that everyone else on the planet had done the same thing except me, which means that I am actually the abnormal one.

I'm also sorry for saying that you repeat "I'm dying" to much. In fact, according to the average life expectancy for U.S. male citizens I now know that I have less than forty-five years left to walk the face of the earth. I intend to use this knowledge and follow your shining example and start letting people know about my ultimate passing.

As person who only has forty-five years left I vow to go back and watch the Opra episode again and this time I WILL JOIN THE BOO-HOOing instead of simply saying BOOOOO which is what I originally did. As a man who only has forty-five years left, I don't mean I'll do a little boo-hooing. As a man who only has forty-five years left, I mean I'm going to roll around on the floor and scream and holler and cry out "Why..... WHY.....WHYYYYYYY".

Unfortunately, my final comment (as a man who only has forty-five years left) is something that I can not apologize for (as much as I would like to now that I have been shown the light). As a man who only has forty-five years left, I can not apologize for saying that I do not believe that you (Randy Pausch) will pass away in six months - I can't apologize for that because I know that I'm right.

In conclusion, as a man who only has forty-five years left I believe I will pass on Kinda cynicals great suggestion of not posting to this blog again. I'm late joining this blog but I will make more postings because 6 months after the date that Randy Pausch gave his final speech, when it becomes obvious to everyone with a functioning brain cell that he is still alive and attending concerts of the Police or some other nonsense, you can be absolutely certain that I'm going to post "Wow, there's a big surprise".

Of course at that time I will be posting it as a man who will have roughly forty-five years left. I don't want everyone crying tonight because I only have forty-five years left - Be strong.

Posted by: Roger at November 26, 2007 10:51 PM

I just came across this blog, and would like to enter some thoughts about what is being said.

- I was surprised by the negative comments, but glad to see them. That allows for discussion. Randy is passionate and has strong beliefs. I think it’s normal that some do not agree.
- No need to accept ‘everything’ Randy writes. Take a few of the things that work for you. Time management…great concept, I refuse to implement it.
- So you take a few (and there are many) of his great ideas. From most people able to change one of two ways in which you spend your day, you are doing quite well. Personal change is difficult. For me, the persistence, the notion that you need clear goals, the notion that getting to those goals requires focus, the ‘experience is what you get when you don’t get what you want’, are just a few. Actually the most important one is ‘you can’t change the cards you are dealt, only how you play them’, which to me says stop whining and complaining, and go do something good for yourself and for others. It also says whining is a waste of time, and for all of us, there is too little time.
- Where i get a little annoyed is with the notion that Randy isn’t about to die. Three months or thirteen months 85% of people with this type of pancreatic cancer aren’t around in five years. And the notion of feeling sorry because you only have 45 years to live. That is one you didn’t understand. And actually, i think that is the central point. Randy is saying 45 months or 45 years, you need to purposely go about making the most of them every day.
- Finally the notion that Randy is sensationalizing his experience. On that one, ‘there but the grace of g-d you and I’. And gone through the treatments, the pain, the chemo, and still having the resiliency to not ‘quit’, for me, that is inspiring.
- Regarding fame, I think Randy taped this for his children who are too young to remember some of what their Dad stood for. The rest was ‘viral marketing’; many found inspiration in his message, and asked him to explain and to elaborate.

All of this becomes very personal. It’s hard to be as passionate and purpose driven as Randy is without having a few disagree. One of the bloggers said that they had had enough of Randy. OK. But the evidence suggests that person is probably in the minority. That graduate students have come to the university to carry on the work, speaks for itself.

If nothing else, i believe ‘you see what you get’. For me, Randy is an inspiration and a hero. If under similar circumstance i show 10% of the grace he has shown, i will consider that a victory. And if i achieve 30% of the goals (which i have now written down) i will consider the remainder my life well lived.

And isn’t that really the gift? Randy has made me want to be a better person, a better father, a better son, a better scientist (put your own vocation in), and a person who gives more than I receive.

Not only that, he has given me a formula, a framework to achieve that. Not so bad for a sixty minute lecture.

Posted by: norman rich at November 28, 2007 8:09 AM

I read a report today that Randy is going to be paid nearly $7 million dollars for a book deal on his final lecture.

I think you misunderstand the reason that I strongly disagree with Randy's message. It is not because of the message itself. The message itself is exceptional. The issue I have is with the way he delivers the message. I have noticed that most people love his final lecture and a small percentage say that something stinks about the message because it clearly serves a purpose. The words "I'm dying" are so powerful that they do not need to be repeated. So, if someone repeats those words several times over the course of a speech then to me it is only going to come across as serving a purpose for him. To me, that is shameful and pathetic. When I watch the Opra video and see an audience full of women crying over a man they don't know simply because he is a masterful public speaker it makes it seem even more pathetic because it also seems manipulative.

I'm glad that you feel changed or better because of his speech. I personally feel that it was plastic.

Regarding him dying - A common thing that I've noticed that his supporters do is they repeat his very words about dying over and over. I do not believe that he will be gone 6 months from the date of his speech. I believe he will be around to collect every penny of the $7M. If you think he will then I have no additional comments other than 6 mos from the date of his speech we will see if I am wrong.

Regarding me dying in 45 years you may have misunderstood that it was an attempt at sarcasm on my part because no one should feel sorry for me having a terminal condition (called aging) and no one should feel sorry for Randy Pausch. He has managed to set himself up quite nicely. I for one would love a $7M book deal just because I keep repeating that I'm dying.


Posted by: Roger at November 28, 2007 7:18 PM

Would I like to get a $7M book deal? Would I like to meet the Police? Would I like to do any of the special things Randy is getting to do? Absolutely!! Would I trade my life before reaching my fiftieth birthday to get those things? Never in a million years.

Roger, I truly hope that you are right and that Dr. Pausch is still alive after 6 months. I hope that he gets as much time as possible with his wife and children. And I do hope that he lives long enough to write that book and get the money that comes with it. He deserves it because he will ultimately pay a heavy price for it. Dr. Pausch will most likely die soon, even if he does get more than the 3 to 6 months he stated so frequently.

It seems to me that there are two reactions to Dr. Pausch: 1) he is near sainthood; or 2) he is a phony. In MY personal experiences, I've found that in most things in life, the truth is somewhere in the middle. He probably has been arrogant. He’s a teacher and he’s at the top of his field. We teachers do adore the hero-worship that comes with the job. It’s one of the reasons we put up with all the other crap that also comes with the job. And unfortunately, being at the top of your field tends to give you a pass on arrogance. Dr. Pausch, himself, admitted he has been arrogant in the past. It’s very difficult to overcome personality flaws like that. But I have a gut feeling that he has earnestly tried to work on it.

Even if he has done some awful things in his past (and who hasn’t?), perhaps he has “seen the light.” I have an uncle that was a complete jerk for the first 50 years of his life. Then he had to have emergency quadruple-bypass surgery. Since then, he has been a completely different person. He is now a joy to be with and I love him very much. I think facing his mortality led him to reveal a side of himself that none of us (except his wife) ever saw. Dr. Pausch said in his lecture, “…wait long enough
and people will surprise and impress you.” It was certainly true in my uncle’s case. And maybe Dr. Pausch was talking about himself a little bit there. We’ll probably never know.

How you see this lecture largely depends on your own life experiences. Right now, I find it inspiring. Had I seen it four years ago when I was very bitter about circumstances in my life, I may have written it off as being naïve and overly optimistic. Even now, when he kept talking about the wall and it being a way to prove how much you want something, I got twinges of bitterness and cynicism. My personal wall was so high that I could have spent the rest of my life trying to climb it and still never reach the top. Ultimately I decided to go in a different direction. It certainly wasn’t because I didn’t want the prize enough. It was to protect myself from ending up a bitter old woman. But ultimately, there was a lot more in the speech that I COULD relate to.

I’m grateful that Dr. Pausch gave this lecture, regardless of why he gave it. I draw inspiration from it, as do many other people. And I’m sure his children will treasure it in the future, no matter how much longer he lives.

Posted by: Athena at December 9, 2007 9:48 PM

Randy Pausch will not receive $7M from the book deal. The deal was struck with the author.

Posted by: Mary at December 11, 2007 9:39 AM

Thanks for clarifying - actually I think I read that Dr. Pausch's estate and the author will split the proceeds from the book.

Posted by: Athena at December 11, 2007 11:08 AM

You can tell if someone is capable of evaluating something objectively by their ability to mention both the positive and the negative. Even I have made positive comments about Randy Pausch (articulate effective speaker) but his supporters have him under such an enormous "halo effect" that in their eyes he can do no wrong.

Athena,
You say that you hope that I'm right about Randy living longer than 6 mos so that he can spend time with his family. Don't worry. He will live longer than 6 mos but it is unlikely that he will spend much of that time with his family if his current trend continues.

On Sep 4, 2007 Randy said that he was moving with his family to VA to create memories for his children. However, what he actually did is the following:
1. Spend significant time with anyone willing to listen to his story
2. Spend time with the Pittsburgh Steelers
3. Go on a "kidless vacation" to see Sting backstage
4. Started working on his book
5. Go diving off the Cayman islands with his buddies
6. Get a speaking part in the next Star Trek movie

Sounds like he's really spending a lot of time with the kids doesn't it?

A persons credibility can easily be determined by evaluating what they do vs what they say they are going to do. Randy Pausch is a man with no credibility. All that anyone would have to do to form an opinion about Randy Pausch's credibilty is go to his web site and then see how closely he comes to doing the things that he says he will do. A hint: He's not doing so good right now but he's back from the Caymans so maybe he will change (although I seriously doubt it).

On bitterness: It is interesting that you mention that Athena. I remember back in the good ol' days when people posted similar comments about Karma Adjuster. Let's see if I understand this - If anyone makes a negative comment about Randy Pausch then that can only occur because the person must be bitter or have a miserable life. I have a family that I cherish. I have a very good job and I'm successful at what I do. If I had terminal cancer I personally would say damn the interviews, Caymans, Steelers, and Star Trek. I would truly spend every precious moment with my family. You stated that you are an educator but it is narrow statements about bitterness which make me think ???. The professors that I respect the most (and learned the most from) while working on my undergraduate and graduate degrees were the ones who looked hollistically at issues. Maybe that is because I work (and was educated) in a world (math and sciences) where the discovery of truth is vital to your success. This is a skill that Randy Pausch's supporters (yourself included) clearly do not possess. The prevailing mantra for them is "His words sound good and make me feel good so I believe everything he says". Ergo halo effect. I actually feel sorry for Randy's supporters because they seem extremely naive to me and I feel that the few posters who see through him are capable of looking beyond the BS.

Some questions that Randy Pausch's supporters never seem to ask:
1. Why did he make his statement on Sep 4 about spending time with his family but then do such a poor job of actually doing that?
2. Why did Randy repeatedly state on Oprah that he "will be gone in a few months" when he knows that no licensed MD ever told him that he would be dead by March 18, 2008? Randy is an intelligent person. He understood the effect it would have to say "I will be gone in a few months" and that is why he repeated those words.
3. And the best for last - Who is Sarah Gold? Our good friend Norman Rich above states that the entire Randy Pausch story grew virally. Norman may like to believe that, and I'm quite certain that Randy wants everyone to believe that but I can not help but be curious by the postings by "Sarah Gold" (not just in this blog - all over the web).

Norman also stated his feelings about "giving more than you receive". Perhaps this is something he practices. Since it does not take advanced statistical analysis to figure out that truly giving more than you receive necessarily creates a net deficit then anyone who actually does this would be poor. But please don't suggest that this is something that Randy practices. Because to do so is insulting. Randy has always taken more than he gives. His new book deal will be an exponential continuation of that.

Regarding sainthood - Let's go ahead and take that off the table. Randy Pausch is absolutely not a Saint. Anyone who believes he is, is simply too lazy to research the man himself. He is deceptive, manipulative and shamefully profiting off of the sympathy and emotions of others.

Posted by: Roger at December 11, 2007 7:27 PM

Randy's actions over the past couple of months remind me of the Tim McGraw song, "Live like you were dying". He has become famous, and has been given many opportunities that he would not have had in a normal lifetime, but who cares?? Are you affected in some way by what he is able to do because people think he is inspiring?
I was one of the 400 people able to go to his lecture. He could not believe that the room was actually filled, and he was very humbled that people had been in line for hours to make sure that they were let in. He had no idea that his talk would be so popular. And he was genuine in telling us that he didn't give the lecture for us- but for his kids.

Posted by: student at December 20, 2007 11:20 PM

re: Randy Pausch being alive in six months ...
Research pancreatic cancer. It is quickly terminal. There are NO survival rates and generally pancreatic cancer victims die within 12 - 18 months of diagnosis.
He was first diagnosed in September of 2006. For him to be told in August of 2007 that he only has a few months to live lines up with medical data about pancreatic cancer.
My Father died in November 2004, 14 months after his diagnosis of pancreatic cancer and many of those months were full of debilitating treatments. I am sure Randy Pausch has suffered the same. My father was 71 when he died . . . he was granted many more years.
My prayers are with Randy Pausch and his family.

Posted by: Cynthia at December 31, 2007 11:00 AM

I just read some of the comments on this page. I am very angry, I am angry that an apparent jealous scumbag named Karma Adjuster is allowed to stay around on this earth. What Karma claimed professor Pausch had done sounds so trivial comparing to what Karma had shown of himself.

Posted by: marie at January 1, 2008 10:23 AM

Greetings,
Several people have commented with disapproval on the many times Randy mentioned dying in his Last Lecture. I did not take offense because I know how strong denial is in confronting the unacceptable and the inevitable end of life. Denial can permit one to continue on as if nothing has changed and no consequences result from behaviors and realities. Denial serves a useful purpose as a shock absorber in response to painful reality, but locks up process and progress in accepting that which can not be changed. Denial is very difficult to surrender. Alcoholism is called a disease of denial. If denial is surrendered then one is left with the decision of how to meet life on life's terms-- and how to keep on meeting it day by day. How can one stay conscious, free of denial? Own the reality, name it and accept it; live with it in the companionship of others who choose one day at a time to live, fully alive to the present.
I believe Randy is combating denial with the same tool that recovering alcoholics use every time they introduce themselves in meetings: "My name is Bill W and I am an alcoholic." To those who can bear it, "My name is Randy and I am dying." calls forth a response, "hello Randy, welcome to the fellowship of those who pray, "God, give us grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things which should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other."

Posted by: Steven Crowson at January 1, 2008 11:34 AM

We are all dying...and this man is actually lucky enough to have an actual time frame to live out the rest of his dreams before he goes.

Unlike my sister who went to a hospital fo a sore stomach and was gone in less than 12 hours with no real warning.

We are ALL going to die...isn't that reason enough to start trying to be more positive and enlightened with all the moments of living we have...

I have a brother I don't really like...he has a brain tumor. May not be around to long. I don't forgive who he was in the past, but I see no reason to ruin my life being negative over what happened in the past.

I wish peace and positivity for all. Let the man do what he will with his life...and do you and your life.

His family is in my prayers tonight...

Posted by: SC at January 1, 2008 11:00 PM

Roger, you are certainly entitled to your opinions, as is everyone else. I find it unsettling that you will claim "victory" if Randy is fortunate enough to live beyond mid March 2008. You somehow believe that your opinions will be validated and everyone else's will be proved wrong. I think you need to find something more productive to focus on.

Posted by: Mary at January 5, 2008 12:14 PM

This is phil again, the second student to comment above. I was googling for Randy because I wanted to read the latest on how he was doing, and I was surpised to see this in the first page of results. I've read all of the new posts, and i'm amazed at the amount of vitriol being exchanged.

Randy has his flaws, as we all do. But as far as I can tell, phoniness isn't one of them. If anything, it's the exact opposite; I suspect he stresses "I'm dying" numerous times through the speech not because he wants our sympathy, but because it's the cold hard truth and he takes comfort and strength in absolutes.

During my first semester at the ETC, Randy's outspokenness and directness did upset a fair number of people. But he also took the chance towards the end of the class to talk to us about how he knew how arrogant he is, and how long he's worked to improve his attitude. My friends and I were impressed. Say what you will, but anyone who can stand up and talk frankly about his personal shortcomings when he owes nothing of the sort makes a strong positive impression on me. I consider myself extremely privileged to have had a chance to learn from him. I still am.

To Roger: if you think Randy is a phony who is milking his situation for a lucrative book deal, why bother writing so many lengthy replies full of bitterness and spite? Surely, Randy's neither the first nor the last fake. So unless you're still going after Milli Vanilli, I don't understand why you would exert so much effort trying to change our opinions of him. You won't change mine.

-PL-

Posted by: phil at January 5, 2008 9:20 PM

To those who would criticize out of resentment and anger I offer a scriptural truth from Ecclesiastes 7:21,22 which says in part : "...do not give your heart to all the words that people may speak, that you may not hear your own servant calling down evil upon you. For your own heart well knows even many times that you , even you, have called down evil upon others." To "Karma Adjuster" I can only discern that your chosen moniker indicates a resentful vengeful heart. Can you not move on with life with a grateful and forgiving spirit? I hope you can for the sake of those whom you desire to befriend. And to Roger, if what he is doing is keeping him alive longer, more power to him.

Posted by: waveman at January 5, 2008 9:42 PM

To Roger
Get a life. Stop caring so much about other people, grow up, move away from Mummy and start looking after yourself.

Posted by: moomoo at January 6, 2008 8:16 AM

Cynthia,
Randy was not told in Aug 07 that he would be dead in a few months. Making a statement of certainty like that is not what doctors do.

Randy's words on Oprah were his alone. No doctor ever told him "Mr. Pausch, it is certain that you will be dead in a few months" and yet Randy repeated those very words over and over. In fact I would never have posted to this blog if Randy's words had been "I may be gone in a few months" instead of "I will be gone in a few months". Repeating those words over and over told me that he had an ulterior agenda. Am I to believe that Randy completed the entire body of work necessary to earn a PhD but that he does not understand that those two sentences do not say the same thing? That perhaps it was a mistake on his part to substitute "will" for "may" or "might"? Randy chose his words purposefully even though he knew that they were not true. How do I know that he knew his words were not true? On Oct 19 Randy, himself, reported that the palliative treatment was working. A few days after reporting that the treatment was working he went on Oprah and repeated over and over "I will be gone in a few months". As far as I'm concerned, all of his embellishments and deception has made this the greatest BS story of 2007 and I am very confident that he will NOT be dead by the 1 year anniversary of his speech.

His speech would never have carried the same emotion and sympathy that it had if he said "I may be gone in a few months". Part of the power came from the finality and the fact that his children may be too young to remember him. Without those words there would not have been a fraction of the interest in his story and there certainly would never have been a $7M book deal. Randy Pausch is very intelligent and he understood the power that his words would have and that is why he repeated them so much in his speech and that is why he repeats them so much on his website.

To those who say that this entire story has grown virally I would say again that this story has only grown virally if the name of the virus is Randy Pausch. Randy knows better than anyone else on this planet about the true genesis of "Sarah Gold". I have never seen more blatant marketing.


Posted by: Roger at January 7, 2008 6:50 PM

Roger, the vulture is YOU. Randy had an intuition; that he was being stalked by someone who wished destruction upon him. He may have projected this onto a large bird he saw overhead at some point. Then maybe he rearranged the pictures he took of this bird to fit the narrrative that occurred to him. The underlying truth is there, however. It's just that Randy is being stalked on the Net, not in real life (well, I would hope that Roger is not peeking in his windows and such). Why don't you leave him alone now that you've had your little say? It's true that Randy is not perfect. I knew him as a passing acquaintance some years back and I can tell you that his advice never worked for me; I lost my job anyway. Is he somewhat geeky? Yes, just like most of us in Academia. Is there some degree of grandstanding and ego-boosting going on, along with a certain disengagement from those who are close to him? Yes, once again these are traits common to people who have been encouraged to focus very obsessively on one area and on their own perceptions of said area, in other words professors and other researchers/writers. But to go further and call him a liar and a hypocrite as you have just takes the cake. And what might be YOUR true motives . . . let me see: jealousy and envy over the millions he will make (for his kids, there's no disputing that) and the fame he has already achieved. These are much less flattering motives than Randy's very normal and understandable self-aggrandizement.

Posted by: Liz at January 10, 2008 2:54 AM

And I thought it was just cold because of it being winter! Some of you folks, in your heartlessness, and others, in your psychophantic gushing, are really astonishing.

Simple truth 1: Randy is merely painfully aware of his impending mortality. How long he has left is a matter of conjecture, but he is probably none too interested in conjecture because he probably just wants to try and do something USEFUL with however much time that is. Don't we all? Give him a break. I suspect that many of his detractors would sing a different tune if they were handed a life clock winding down as fast as his might be.

Simple truth 2: To Randy's former students who seem to find him evil. Hey, that's the way grad school goes. Try to get over it. It takes time, but few professors are the anti-christ any more than others are the saints we want to make them out to be. Sometimes our mentors teach us by counter-example. Try not to think you are entitled to anything more than being around the man while he was giving advancing his career goals his best shot, bacause that is ALL you get. No one held a gun to your head to make you go to CMU. That's the way it is. Diasgree? Fine. It's your right to do so. Just don't do it to YOUR students when the time comes, and thank Randy for teaching you that, even if you think the lesson was indirectly taught. Life is short enough and rarely fair. Don't waste it hauling around a lot of psychological baggage that prevents YOU from achieving your potential. Too many of us do, especially in academe.

Simple truth 3: The guy isn't perfect, and even being on Oprah won't make him so. He's done a bunch of really good things with a very publicly watched part of his life, maybe a bunch of less good things, maybe even a few selfish things in his time. Gee, that kind of makes him just like the rest of us in the only really important way.

Randy: if somehow you come across this, good luck. You got dealt a crappy hand, but sooner or later, everybody must play one with the same results. I pray that there's an after life where none of this junk matters, and if we meet there, the first beer is on my tab.

Posted by: George at January 11, 2008 2:51 PM

As difficult as it may be for some of you to comprehend my fascination is not with Randy Pausch. When Randy gave his first speech you will not find a posting from me anywhere on the net. Likewise after he gave his Oprah speech. However, regardless of how popular his speech was before Oprah it was incredibly more popular after he spoke on her show. My fascination is not with Randy - My fascination is with people like George, Liz, and almost everyone else in this blog. I could not believe that other human beings could watch the speech and not discern the acting, and pretense to his speech. What makes it even more fascinating is that even when information is offered to show he is phony and deceptive the majority seem to want to believe that he speaks with a genuine, inimitable voice. It is not in the realm of possibility that such gullible, naive, and at times, stupid people will not fascinate me.

Liz,
Your posting impresses me with your brilliance. Imagine how far you might have gone in life if you had actually completed the 7th grade. It is extremely improbable that Randy Pausch and I have ever stood in the same state at the same time. I am fairly confident that the 5% (or so) of people like me that heard his speech and were unimpressed are not jealous of him but rather think that the manipulation and acting is shameful.

I am from a family that has lost several members due to cancer. That also contributes to some of my criticism and makes me think that much of his speech is fake. I do not expect to change any of your minds - It is not why I post. As I said before those of you that never question his inconsistencies fascinate me. Perhaps I should have gone into the used car business instead of staying in school.

Posted by: Roger at January 16, 2008 7:47 PM

Wow ok new to this just saw the video this week but as someone in the healthcare profession pancreatic cnacer is a death sentance plain and simple maybe 3 months maybe a year maybe if your lucky like my uncle you make 18 moths or like my best friends father it takes you in 3 months-get over it... if you dont beleive he has it that is one thing but if he does and you think he is overreacting one can only hope you find out first hand one day what it is like to have it!

Posted by: realist at January 24, 2008 4:50 PM

Almost the whole world has now seen the Last Lecture or heard of Randy's story. And there will be people who don't feel the pull of the band wagon, and who know may know the person and not feel the same. That is Karma's, and Roger's opinions and they have a right to feel that way and to voice it. I think the point is, it's okay to disagree. It's okay to not "like" someone just because that person is dying, and to think they are fake. Fact: Randy wouldn't be receiving so much media if he wasn't terminal. But, that's irrelevant; whether Randy is a saint, or a SOB is irrelevant. The message is what is important. I'm grateful to Karma/Roger for stating they think Randy is an SOB. Because it shows that Randy is human and to know that he is just an every day guy means that the greatness he speaks of, that he urges others to reach for IS attainable no matter who or what you are, or what you have done. So thank you Karma and Roger for allowing me to see through the speaker and to really understand the lecture. Ironically, I'm certain that was Randy's goal all along. Karma truly is a funny thing.

Posted by: Bounce Student at January 26, 2008 9:35 AM

Realist (and others),
I do appreciate the statistics that some of you provide regarding mortality rates for pancreatic cancer patients. Let me give you a clue - I am very familiar with them but I do appreciate the additional insight and wisdom that you have offered to the subject. Randy has always had factors in play that while he perhaps should not present himself as a best case scenario (which means you could potentially live more than 10 years) he should have at least presented himself as someone who may not be the worst case scenario (only a few months to live). And yet he has always presented himself as a worst case scenario. And you wonder why I'm critical.
I'm not as insensitive as some of you may think. Even though I had strong suspicions of Randy's speech because of his word selection, I still wanted to believe in the story. However, the more I checked his website and other websites, the more I realized that I have never seen a person more vain or full of themself than Randy Pausch. He said that he was going home to spend time with his family but instead has been on the non-stop Randy Pausch Tour. He says that his oncologist told him that there was no danger with him leaving the country to go scuba diving while on gemcitabine and tarceva. He uses his cancer story to talk his way out of a speeding ticket and last, but not least, he intentionally changes the order of the vulture photos to make it look like the bird was following him. And you don't think he exaggerates? Maybe you went to the same school Liz went to - Clearly, some higher education going on there.
Inspite of all of my findings about Randy I have always given him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to believing he has pancreatic cancer. I believe that even thought he continually offers himself as one of the world greatest case studies in the rejection of the null hypothesis. Additionally, I will say that he makes it very tough to believe his story when he makes ridiculous statements about advice from his physician (going scuba diving risk free). I do believe that Randy has cancer (for now) but I have always believed that he has misrepresented the true state of his visceral health. And I believe the "clock" that he is counting down from has significantly more time on than what he announces. I do not believe that he actually thought he would be dead in a few months when he kept repeating those words.

My biggest criticism is not of Randy. It is of those of you who try to make him into something better than he is. Apparently Randy has no compunction at all with standing before a crowd and exaggerating a story so that there is not a dry eye in the audience. Maybe some of you geniuses think that the reason for the book deal is because of his section on the "head fake" or some of his other pearls of wisdom. I for one, will always believe that it only occurred because of the power that he manipulated into his speech. Remove the tears and there is no book deal.
I said before that I would make some predictions. Whether you want them or not, here they are:

1. I predict that over the next year Randy will have found other ways to collect income from his story. I do not know what form that will come in - Maybe a made for tv deal or paid speaking engagements, or something else but I believe it will happen.
2. Randy will continue to keep his name in the spotlight (tv, etc)
3. And last - He will NOT be dead as of the 1 year anniversary of his speech. You know - the one where he kept repeating that he only had a few months to live.

Posted by: Roger at January 27, 2008 7:36 PM

I must say I felt a bit uneasy watching the lecture, too. There was the strong rhetorical pull of an immensely youthful and vital-looking man with death hanging over him, of course, but shots of the audience also showed unease among listeners -- I think we just find death a terrible hard fact to deal with, and there was this man who did not deny (and, as some here have pointed out), kept insisting, that his was imminent. Whether or not this is REALLY the case, and just how imnminent it is, I find too macabre to go into, and also beside the point.

What I find plausible is that the guy feels responsible for the people he leaves behind, and perhaps he just said to himself, "Well, if this is how it's going to be, I might as well make the most out of it, and make sure that my kids won't have to worry where the money for the education will be coming from." And I'd interpret the slide of his newly bought house in that way, too.

That said, I find it important for people to have the right to tell others that the televised Randy is different from the Randy they knew. Few academics are saints, and sometimes I think that, if you want to make it in the academic world, you've got to be ruthless, and you've certainly got to have an arrogance that many may find less than healthy. That in itself is a sad thing, I think, and it's good to have people who remind us that someone as glowingly successful as Professor Pausch had to walk across a few people to get there.

Posted by: Carla at January 28, 2008 12:04 AM

This amazing thread is an interesting study of human nature.
A man publicy stated he is dying. He encouraged others to live and pursue their goals before it was too late. That was his message. I think.
He's not the first one to say that, nor will he be the last.
He was also a polished and poised speaker. I, for one, could tell that he had spoken in front of folks many times. That didn't detract from his message.
Or did it?
Could it be that he spoke too well? That he was, in fact, a liar? After all, he'd been somewhat less than perfect in the past and therefore somewhat less than perfect in the future, what little he had left? Excuse me, maybe he has made this all up and has lots and lots of time left!
And so the arguments go, back and forth and in and out and all about the messenger.
Interestingly enough the message seems to have gotten mislaid along the way. This has happened throughout history also.
So, I'd like to just say -- is there TRUTH to his message? Which is to Live. To enjoy life while you can. Pursue your dreams. Enjoy what you have while you have it. An active life is more fulfilling than a passive one. Don't let life pass you by. Carpe Diem! Seize the day!

I heard all this in this man's lecture. I listened and was reminded and I sent it on to my kids with that in mind -- please remember! Not the messenger, but the message.

I'm glad he reminded us.

Posted by: Ginger at January 28, 2008 9:30 AM

Wow! Randy Pausch's lecture has affected me so deeply. It is not because I feel sorry for him. The message he conveys is so powerful.

So what if he has to remind us he's dying over and over again. So what if some people think he's done this for the glory. So what if he was not a likeable professor. So what if he's getting paid millions for a book deal. So what!!!!!!! These people who are harping on these things have missed the point of his lecture. That's too bad. Their opinions have been made and nothing will change there minds because their minds have been closed to the possibility. Again, that's too bad for them because I think Randy Pausch's message is so powerful. It's ashame that was missed.

Posted by: Bina at January 28, 2008 9:50 AM

I was student of Randy's and I feel I should stand up for him. He was tough, intolerant of mediocrity and a little anal retentative. Yet he was just a normal guy. All this bitching is so unnecessary. Everyone has offended people throughout their life, said or done things we regret. We all move past them. If we were to sit down with everyone we know I am sure between them all we would have lots of things that irritated them. What is it with people whenever anyone has success of some sort they feel the need to tear into them. Can't have average Joe getting attention, making lots of money, meeting influential or famous people while I have non of that. No one I don't get on with is allowed to have more success than me.

Randy's last lecture was great. And if people are inspired by that then great. More power to him. And as with any terminal illness and end date is not definate, you hope to beat the timeline given by the doctors. Read up on his type of cancer, people sometimes die sooner and some last longer than expected. If you can not show compassion for another human being than you are a very sad person.

Posted by: FireFly at January 31, 2008 11:35 AM

I am in Australia and just saw Randy's story today on the Oprah show. I too have 3 young children and feel sad knowing that these children and Randy's wife may be going to lose this wonderful man. However, I wonder what his faith is and whether he has tried prayer and putting his illness and possible healing in God's hands? I am not a churchgoer and nor do I preach to others, but I noted another correspondent to this site mentioned that Oprah (who herself tells of her faith on many occasions on her show) did not ask him of his faith or religious beliefs. I guess there are many scientists who have difficulty believing in God, maybe Randy is one of them, or perhaps not. Regardless, I will hold him in my prayers and wouldn't it be the most wonderful miracle if he too prayed for a healing and was healed to the disbelief of all his doctors. Now that would be a victory for God to show the world and how blessed would Randy and his family be to have his health restored.

As for Karma Adjuster - your Karma will also be adjusted, so think carefully if you wish to air further dirty laundry in the future. More energy to the good things in life would be a good start. I will pray for you too! With any luck you have already been healed of your bitterness just by reading some of the comments generated back to you on this forum.

Posted by: Setta at February 4, 2008 10:52 PM

Most miserable speech I have EVER witnessed. EVER.
Why is it the most miserable speech for me? Let me explain. There is a certain humility involved in death/dying. Death is NOT a badge to be worn. Death is not something to do push-ups over. Death and dying is a time to reflect on our lives. Reflect on our past. Did Randy mention God? Any God? He seemed to be quite proud of his accomplishments. HE ACCOMPLISHED. ONLY HIM. All by himself. WoW! The message I received from watching this video - Do what you want - Screw everyone and everything to get what you want - and when you have what you want ----WANT MORE! Is that really so bad? No. Now go back and read the last two sentences again. 'Is that really so bad?' I say YES!

Posted by: Bhwana at February 6, 2008 1:07 PM

is Randy still living
i hope he is
please give me his medical condition
i have been praying so hard for him
thank you

Posted by: nida malmstrom at February 9, 2008 1:06 PM

A couple of things:
He didn't say anything that hasn't been said before, he appeared on Oprah who has a record of promoting upstanding people ...cough... Jame Frey...cough.. Tom Cruise...cough... and I agree that it would be unlikely that a Doctor would say that "you have a couple of months to live", especially when he is in the physical health he demonstrated.
This typical (for an Oprah audience) overwhelming response of uncritical, unquestioning support sickens me - this is the type of thinking that ushers in dictators, this is devotion that relies on massive denial.
You are angry at me because I didn't respond the same way as you and many others did, you claim that I am missing something because I was not overwhelmed by it as you were. You need to take a look in the mirror and question your level of tolerance.
Your husband

Posted by: elilleel at February 9, 2008 1:09 PM

I just read the update on Randy's health. Apparently there was some growth in the tumors, so that means the palliative kemo is not working anymore. I believe he's trying other treatments, but I'm not sure how much that will help.

It saddens me when any person has to struggle with such a destructive disease. One can only hope the families of these fighters find strength to get through these difficult times. As a mother of three very kids, I can't imagine losing my husband and having the kids not know their father. Randy's family are in my thoughts.

Posted by: Bina at February 12, 2008 9:28 AM

I was told by my doctor I had 4-6 weeks to live. That was 21 years ago.... herbs, vitamins, faith, and 5 nasty chemo treatments before I refused another drop-it's the chemo that kills. Poisons injected to kill cancer? Don't do it.
Chemo kills both the body AND the immune system.

Feed your immune system and you will kill the cancer yourself.

An unhealthy mind will create an unhealthy body. Change your thinking, and your change your health. Randy, who according to people who knew him, had some unhealthy habits... time will tell what his destiny will be...

Posted by: siouxee at February 13, 2008 5:23 PM

I just saw the video from Oprah's show with Randy re-giving his lecture. That then prompted me to find out more and I stumbled across this site. I have been sitting here reading what people have written.

Do we really live in such a world that we question and try to tear down anybody for any reason? I highly doubt that any person pointing their finger is a Saint. And in watching the lecture, at no point does he ever say he is either. Shame on everyone on this blog for criticizing anyone else. I’m sure that I am next for the round of tearing me down. But I could care less!! I think those of you who are criticizing him need to take a long look in the mirror!

I work with people on a daily basis, and I am sure that some of them I rub the wrong way, but does that mean they know who I truly am?? I think Not!!

I loved what was posted above: Posted by: FireFly at January 31, 2008 11:35 AM.
THEY ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT!!

Where have we gone and where are we going that we are so busy pointing our fingers at everyone else that we don’t point it where it should be…at ourselves!!!! Are we all so ignorant as a society that we can’t listen to what then man is trying to teach us??

Posted by: Scrappy at February 15, 2008 6:02 PM

Don't expect others to live their lives by your standards. Randy specifically said at the start of his lecture that he was not speaking about religion or family or a number of other things. He does not wear death like a badge, but does not hide behind it or feel sorry for himself. If you could find nothing inspirational about what he said maybe there was nothing there for you, but there definitely was for many others. Preachers preach the same thing every single day yet that doesn't seem to bother you bhwana, we all learn through repetition otherwise life lessons and school lessons would only have to be given once. I think that those who protest Randy's lecture the most actually are touched by it, but are too afraid to admit it, even to themselves. May we all find our own path, and hear the words that help us on our way.

Posted by: jd at February 16, 2008 9:50 AM

When you face the cancer verdict (Yes, I have and with God's and MD Anderson's help, have won) you suddenly realize that life is very important. The ones of you who are critical of this man are talking about the man before cancer. That man no longer exists and never will again. Cancer changes your outlook on life. None of us will leave this world without making mistakes. We are all human. He might be arrogant but because of that, he will fight to the bitter end. With cancer, if you are weak, you die! It takes a fighter to win!

My mother always said, if you can't say something good, say nothing! Good advice in this situation.

Posted by: Terry at February 16, 2008 9:53 AM

Dear Randy,

I have just listened to your last lecture on Opra. Thank you for sharing and instilling in me to continue to dream and let them happen - to live life - people are important - and to be.

To be knocking on Heavens door was the plight of my two good friends. Two very different experiences with the same ending.

I was taking about my friends dying and how each had chosen their pathwith my high school students the other day. I told them that at one point that we (friends) had said that we were not afraid to die. I said that I didn't know what I would do if I were told that I had 6 weeks to live. I said that I really didn't want that experience at this point in my life.

And, tonight I listened to your story. I will play it for my students during a class in the near future.

I thank you again for sharing your story with me and so many others who have listened and who have been a part of your life. You have given me courage to live now more. To wait for the one whom I feel is on the outs or periferal and i will see and experience their goodness.
May you, your wife and your children continue to celebrate your lives as individuals and as a family.

Blessings during these days.

Carole

Posted by: Carole at February 20, 2008 8:19 PM

This advice is typical New-Age (self) Oprah fashion and totally in direct opposition of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Hope he humbles himself, recognizes and gets convicted of his human sin, and then repents so that God can elect him and send him the Holy Spirit. Mr. Pausch, have you ever lied, (even once) stolen, (regardless of value....test answer, paper clip, etc.) used the Lord's name in vain (Geesh), looked with lust (that's call adultery), etc. If not, you'd be the first since Jesus. Our Holy God requires perfection to enter his kingdom; therefore, if you stand before him today, will you be innocent or guilty? Repent today and place your trust in Jesus. Read your Bible and obey. Then and only then will you have salvation. You will see that God wlll do a work in your heart that the sin you once loved, you know hate and the righteous you once avoided and denied, you now desire. This new relationship with sin will testify to the world you are a Christian.

Posted by: witnesser at February 24, 2008 9:08 PM

Excuse me, Witnesser,

Are you serious? Are you able to have a normal conversation with normal people without becoming a real judgemental pain in the rear? I've run into people like you a lot and all I have to say is talk like that doesn't bring people to Christ, it makes them run away...fast! Show people the true love in your heart and if that love is because of your relationship with Christ, then it will send a more powerful message. The garbage you spew now only perpetuates the stereotype of the judgemental born-again Christian. Maybe YOU should read your bible and obey. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't there only ONE who can judge? So if that's the case, back off because the job is taken!

I'm so happy Dr. Pausch has shared his message of living out your dreams with us. I wish more people could adopt that positive outlook on living.

Posted by: Bina at February 25, 2008 4:29 PM

I have seen Randy's video last year (the original Last Lecture), so I was surprised by him appearing after that in a few more "Last Lectures" with the same content.

I think it is good that he is promoting the importance of the quality of life. As a life-insurance advisor for many years, I have been advocating this living life to the fullest approach, even when you are down with major illnesses.

For those of you who are touched by Randy's speech, I would advise you to increase and add to your insurance coverage so that you can have more money and time to spend with your loved ones, achieve your childhood dreams and do the things that you have always wanted to do. Just like Randy. The difference is that not everyone can do a lecture about living life fully and cut a 7 million book deal.

I have been showing Randy's video to my clients and thanks to Randy's excellent presentation skills, many of my clients were moved to do more with their coverage so that they have the money to do the things they have always wanted to do.

Cheers!

Posted by: Doug at February 26, 2008 1:44 AM

Hi all, so I saw the video (the Oprah version) and I was doing some research on Randy and came across this site. I feel compelled to write, as this blog really bothers me. I do believe in discussion, and I think that some of the comments are great, some not so great. Here is my little two cents on the whole thing...I preface this by saying that I am not educated, and I am not a great debater, I'm just a little, regular person making my way through life. So my question to all of you, is, why can't a good thing JUST be a good thing? Why does it have to be analyzed to the umpteenth power, and then people attacked for their opinions? I researched and came here and because Randy's speech moved me. I think his speech has touched and moved a lot of people. I don't care about who he is as a human being. I don't know him. I don't even really care if it is real or not, and I am certainly not going to badmouth Karma Adjuster for his/her feelings, nor am I going to criticize anyone else on this blog. But really, how many of us know Randy, and again, WHAT DOES IT MATTER? Aren't we just missing a beautiful thing? The truth is, he struck a core feeling in a lot of people, and really he could be Genghis Khan, and it would not matter. What matters is, he did a good thing, and makes people think about their own lives. So, I guess you can all attack me, now, as you are all more eloquent and smarter than me (and I, believe it or not, am saying this without one iota of sarcasm).

I just really cannot wrap my mind around, why can't a good thing JUST be a good thing.

Thanx for listening to me.

Posted by: MaryAnne at February 27, 2008 10:38 PM

What I fail to understand after hearing this man speak and after reading enough of the comments to this blog, is how can I commend a person for resigning to "Sorry, you are dying, good bye". Sure he put his time in at Micky D's, handed over his health to the cancer industrial complex where, by the way, if you haven't ever been there you should make a vacaion stop out of it, it is like another planet within Houston. Even have a McDonald's in the lobby...isn't that special?
Why are we so quick to doubt our bodies when we are faced with something like cancer? Why can't we have enough confidence in ourselves and our own knowledge of our bodies abilities to heal itself if it is given the tools it needs to do so?
NO I am not some whacko Tom Cruis-i-an!!! I am a normal human being who knows that the human body was created to heal itself but it needs the proper nutrition (tools) to do it with. We can't get that from the food we eat or even from the tons of vitamins we force down our throats every day...you are lucky if even 30% of those stay in your body!!
Disease is caused from deficiencies in our food, deficiencies in our vitamins and minerals. Our food hasn't been giving it to us since Pre-1930's..look it up..Senate Doc. 264, Google it, look it up, educate yourself on what your body can do if you give it a chance! Liquid Minerals and Vitamins! That is what the body needs to feed the deficiencies that lead to disease...disease comes and the body can't fight it off because it doesn't have a strong enough immune system because it isn't getting the simple vitamins and minerals it needs!
PEOPLE WAKE UP!!! How much money is filtered through cancer research every year? Who do you think gets richer? The "cancer fightin' doctors who get paid billions of dollars for "research" thgrough huge funding and government grants or the people who make liquid vitamin and mineral tonics? What incentive to the miracle men at Micky D's have to use liquid vitamins and minerals to eradicate cancer? NONE!!!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE PLEASE! We can live healthy lives into our 100's feeling great, no pain, enjoying quality of life, it is possible.
And finally, the fact that this guy has gotten so much media coverage to spew this type of message that veils the TRUE message he is sending, "I believe anything the doctors tell me" honestly, makes me ill.
Is everyone in this country sheep? We need to open our minds and educate ourselves, stop believing every pharmaceutical ad you see on television and turn on an alternative mindset.

Posted by: Stephanie at February 28, 2008 12:10 AM

I would have to agree with 'witnesser'.

Randy, without Jesus you have nothing. There is only one way to heaven and that is to repent of your sins and accept forgiveness thru Jesus Christ. Jesus shed his blood for you and me so that we may have everlasting life. think about it.....eternity is a long time. It is now the time to go 'humbly' before God and get things right.

John 14:6 says this: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

this is the only legacy you should be concerned about leaving your family. Otherwise it is hopeless.

Without God, the whole video is just 'fluff'.

Posted by: Z concerned 4 U at February 28, 2008 12:50 PM

God is love. No opposition to the gospel, total agreement. Love god, love your neighbor, very simple. No sin and redemption fear based propaganda. That is the unenlightened speaking. Wake up and see that love and only love heals all.

Posted by: Sara at February 28, 2008 10:33 PM

It's a long road towards self-actualization and it seems that Dr. Pausch's time has been cut short. I know that if I were to post an end of life speech that resonated with a multitude of listeners, I would also be open to the criticism of those who have known me and have had less than a positive experience...I know that I am a work in progress and I hope I have changed somewhat as the years go by- I have worked on myself and my character defects for years and I am sure there would be detractors popping up all over the place to remind me of every error in judgement and every slip in my spiritual journey. I think, for the people in Dr. Pausch's life who have had less than a perfect understanding of what makes up his entire character, it may be useful to learn that what may appear as overt hypocrisy could actually be a living apology. After all, being a survivor of cancer myself, I know it's no picnic and many things in my life changed as a result- usually for the better. Maybe Randy is deriving some comfort from exposing something so personal- maybe he is exaggerating when he says the presentation is only for his kids...I don't know and I honestly don't care. His message is important and it's great that it has reached a massive audience. The only truth the man has is his own and I think it's resonating with a lot of people. So, I'm grateful that we have the technology to disseminate such a lesson-packed lecture...I for one, do not consider this particular class to be "the class I shouldn't have bothered taking". I hope the young people who have posted negatively understand that growth and change are ongoing. The man may not have enough time to evolve into the perfect person we'd all love to be...I think you'll find that even if you personally live to be 90 years old, you will know that you will not have had enough time either. It's entirely appropriate that he share the legacy of what it is he knows he's done well and to leave that to his children, since he cannot accomplish that throughout their lives. It's a bonus that he's let us into such a personal experience in his life- an act of courage, since we are all vulnerable in death.

Posted by: Kimberly at February 29, 2008 8:07 AM

I'm reluctant to say because of the Witnesser post, I am Christian.

Witnesser, please stop defacing Christ's faith by casting stones at others. I see no profanity, adultery or lying being professed by Randy Pausch. Accept his message for what it is. One of love, Christ's most important message. You do more damage than good with your judgemental attitude.

Our purpose as Christians is to provide a path for others to follow and I think Dr. Pausch has done that well. Seeking truth will lead you there.

Winesser don't be afraid of what you'll find if you dig deeply searching for the truth. His truth will prevail, and that may not be what someone wants or certainly is capable of understanding. Try reading C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity, or Francis Collins, Language of God. Let's help Christ not hinder.

I didn't want to see the last word in this post so maligning. A better video of his speech is here http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=ithct48cqw

Thank you for your courage Randy Pausch and may God Bless You. I have said a prayer for you and your family for continued strength.

Posted by: Trespassor at February 29, 2008 11:21 AM

First of all, I must say that the debates above have been fascinating, if not a little unsettling at times, to read through. This is not the standard flaming give and take so prevalent on the net these days; with few exceptions you are all obviously well-spoken, thoughtful and articulate individuals, albeit with widely or subtly disparate views on the phenomenon that is Randy Pausch. Well done, people. Allow me now to contribute my two cents.

For starters, I think we can safely discount the validity of Karma Adjuster's opinion on the matter (and I mention him by name only because he was the first naysayer in the group). I would encourage those of you who were driven to angst by his comments to consider one of the final statements in his post: "I for one will not be shedding a tear for his passing." This really tells you all you need to know about the man, for it is blind hate dressed up in thoughtful discourse. Perhaps you don't like an individual, or maybe you disagree with some or all of their viewpoints or methods, or facets of their demeanor. But to sum up your opinion with the final statement that their ultimate death will be a favorable outcome for you reveals the shallowness and lack of redeeming qualities in any opinion you may have. What an unfortunate choice of words, and how telling.

Karma also made mention of the fact that "I'm confidant (sic) that because of having to interact with this man, I'm a far more bitter and jaded individual." Here again, he lays witness to the content of his character by revealing the extent to which his outlook on life as a whole can be colored by a single individual. I'm reminded of coworkers in my past who have been reprimanded or criticized by their superiors, who can take nothing constructive from the feedback, and who could only react with shock and disgust that they were anything less than perfect in the performance of their duties. I suspect that Mr. Pausch at one time undermined the image that Karma had of himself, and in so doing laid the foundation for an ongoing bitterness that persists to this day.

The other theme that crops up here more than once is that of the book deal that Randy signed, reportedly worth several million dollars. I don't understand the problem that people have with this, but it seems to be the natural human response to those who are wealthy, or about to become wealthy. Oddly, it seems that the acquisition of financial security is something we detest in others, yet crave for ourselves, and it doesn't matter how noble or debase the method by which that wealth is acquired may be. We all hate millionaires, yet we all wish to be included in their ranks. If I was approached at any time with the offer to write a book, which enough people wanted to read that it would solve my financial problems for the rest of my life, why would I turn it down? Furthermore, if it could cement my family's financial security for decades to come, would I not be remiss in refusing to pursue such an offer? Who among you would do the same? So we can discount these naysayers as well, I submit.

Skipping over the section of this thread in which certain people parry back and forth on the photo of the vulture in Randy's blog (a debate so absurd it's embarrassing), we come to the matter of the disease itself, Mr. Paush's prognosis, and the speech he gave on it, for that seems to be the ultimate bone of contention herein. For those of you unfamiliar with pancreatic cancer, I can tell you this: it never takes prisoners, and it rarely grants an extended reprieve. If Randy has it, his death is only a matter of time, and not a lot of it. He knows this, the medical community knows this, and among those with any experience or knowledge of it, the argument is over, if indeed there ever was one. Be reminded that before he gave his last lecture, few people outside of CMU had ever heard of Randy Pausch. His lecture was a goodbye from a dying man in which he recounted the events of his life, praised the names and work of numerous people who helped him along the way and provided guidance and inspiration, and during which he admitted to traits like arrogance, ignorance and naivete which we discovered or had pointed out to him throughtout the course. There was a confidence in the presentation, but I sensed no presumption of sainthood whatsoever. Alas, he wasn't humble, and the masses hate that. If you're one of those masses, then I urge you to try this: accomplish in your life what Randy Pausch has, gain the respect and love of your peers and those closest to you that was so obviously evident during the course and aftermath of his lecture, and then try to say that you really have nothing of value to show for your life while trying to keep a straight face and expecting your audience to do the same.

I was affected by Randy Pausch's lecture, that much is obvious. But I have been just as affected by the discourse I have read here. I thank the ones who have only words of venom to offer, because it has shown me that there are aspects of the human experience worse even than death. And one of them is living a life so shrouded in cynicism and bitterness that it can only offer up a platitude of negatives on the occasion of a dying man's final days.

Posted by: Raymond G. at March 2, 2008 6:27 PM

Randy Pausch's "last lecture" sends a message that, although intended for his 3 children, strikes a chord with millions of people worldwide. Someone in this post criticized him for repeatedly mentioning how few months he has left to live. I believe Dr. Pausch does this to emphasize the situation that he is faced with, and how it has shaped his perspective of life. I believe he wants to share his "lecture" as a way of sharing the truths that might otherwise only become evident when facing a terminal illness. Really, life is short for all of us - whether we live to be 1 or 110. Randy Pausch wants us to spend our time wisely - and realize what is really important. I like that he emphasizes the importance of "people" and "apology." His is a great message in so many ways.

Posted by: Kim at March 2, 2008 6:56 PM

A medical perspective: A diagnosis of pancreatic cancer is always rapidly terminal (i.e. less than 2 years left to live, depending on how early the diagnosis). Some have doubted Randy Pausch's diagnosis because of how "healthy" and "strong" he appeared during his presentations. That is precisely that point he is trying to make. He wants to show that - no matter how healthy you might feel right now - death might not be long off. Many types of cancer do not affect the person until the VERY end - and hence that is why they are "silent killers." Often, the chemotherapy and other treatments to prolong life actually cause more side-effects than the cancer itself. That is why some people choose to forego any treatment that could possible prolong their life - the "quality" versus "quantity" issue. Randy Pausch was diagnosed early in his disease. This has allowed him more time than some others with pancreatic cancer. However - his death is inevitably imminent. Shame on ANYONE who is actually counting the months until he dies - instead of realizing the things he is managing to accomplish with the short time he has left. I am glad that he is finding the time & opportunity to do some things for himself before he dies (travel, Star Trek, scuba diving, book deal, etc.). He is trying to create a fuller life with the shorter timeline he has been given. I know his wife & children will be glad that he got to do these things before he died. And I'm sure that he is spending plenty of quality time with his friends & family also. He is trying to set an example for his children, as only a father can. Try not to get bogged down by the specifics of HOW he lives his final months.

Posted by: Kim at March 2, 2008 7:24 PM

Reading all these post, both the Pros and the Cons, prove one thing, there will always be differences of opinions, after watching his last speech on videos, the one thing that struck me the most, was at the very end, when he said he did this Last Lecteuer for 3 people, and they were his kids, well I have two daughters 7, and 8, I love them so dearly, they are my life, along with my beautiful wife, I put my wife and kids on pedestals, in my heart, therefore, I can assure you, my family will not need some video, when I am gone, to remember me by, or to have something to look up their Dad/ Husband by, they will already have that in their hearts, just by actions. Trust Me on this one, before you blast me, it is your actions, and how you treat people, that is how you will be remembered. I do everything with my kids, from playing games, dolls, basketball, or whatever on a daily basis, I sit down and listen on how their day went at school, I do this everyday, and they feel like they want to sit and talk with me.........Bottom line, you should not have to leave some kind of memorial, just so your kids will have something to be proud of you, just do something everyday with your kids and you will be remembered I promise.........................I hope this makes sense, I am not good with words, so chances are, this will be blasted, but it is from the heart. Don't get me wrong, it is sad to have a terminal sickness, especially for the kids, I feel for them the most................................

Posted by: Concerned at March 4, 2008 1:14 PM

I saw Randy on Oprah a few hours ago (in South Africa, we are a bit behind!) and my heart goes out to him and his family. My own father died of colon cancer (metastasized to the liver) 2 years ago, and I wish I had seen this before he died. To Karma Adjuster I would like to say, no-one is perfect and in fact Randy admits on Oprah that his one regret in life was his lack of tact. I believe he is trying to make amends for this. I too was disappointed that Oprah made no reference to God or the afterlife.

Posted by: Alison at March 5, 2008 2:42 PM

Well in South Africa we only saw Oprah yesterday, the 5th of March 2008. Randy you are an amazing human being. I immediately went on to the internet to see whether I could get an update on you and was pleasantly surprised to hear that you are still alive.

Mr Karma, whatever nasty things you said about Randy - may God grant you the wisdom to shut your negative trap about Randy and rather work on your negative self. If you watched the Oprah show Randy said something to the effect that he knows that he isn't/wasn't the most tactful guy around and that he may have offended people in the past (something like this) so Mr Karma get a life and realize that life is far to short to be malicious.

Randy I know that one day when your three kiddies are old enough to watch your lecture and understand everything that you said in it they are going to be soooooooooo proud of their dad.

God bless

Karen (South Africa)

Posted by: Karen Buttner at March 6, 2008 5:05 AM

Thank you to Raymond G. for taking the time to write that great post. Some of you people are so ridiculous and you should be ashamed of yourselves. First of all- not only does the guy have a right to go and do whatever interests him and doesn't have to spend every waking second physically attached to any one person, but some of the examples given here about how he's not spending time with his family are inaccurate anyway!! He went to see the Police with his wife!

As for the stupid comments about the Turkey Vulture-- first of all you say they are scared of people-- well, that may be in some cases but what is the point of that comment when the photo shows where it was in relation to Randy--he didn't claim it landed on his head. Furthermore there are numerous huge Turkey Vultures at a park near where I live and I can assure you they don't go flying off the minute you get near them. As a matter of fact once there was one in the middle of the street and I drove right by it within a few feet and it sat there looking right at me. You made it sound like he posted some big series of photos when it's just two and yes, they may be out of order but who cares!! I don't post all my photos in chronological order every time. You're right-- it's quite obvious the top photo is the bird flying away, I don't think Randy would think anyone would believe otherwise.

In this day and age when so many people have MySpace or their own personal web sites it's funny how someone will be atatcked for talking about themselves on his own site. Obviously that is what his site is about- him! If you want a site about you make one, if you don't then don't. But you needn't attack whoever else does.

And as for the fact that some of you though he said it was his 'Last Lecture' but then you were "surprised" to see him do it again-- well- the series at the college is CALLED Last Lecture-- he didn't make it up-- and most of the professors that give that lecture aren't dying, so presumably they give other lectures at later dates. If you were listening, the point of the series is IF hypothetically you were dying, what would you say. In this case it just happened that the professor really may die soon. And he has given the same lecture again because he has been invited to, because people were interested. Seemed to me he mentioned a lot of other people's names and told lots of vignettes about other people throughout his talk, even though he very well could have spoken only of himself since the point of the talk is what he would want to say. So why don't you all find something more constructive to do with yourselves than talk crap about people for no reason?? And if you are gonna talk crap, make sure you know what it is you're talking about and don't say stupid things that make no sense.

Posted by: Medusa at March 6, 2008 4:13 PM

I am obviously among the minority here, but I just watched this Oprah "performance" and have to say that I found the lecture simplistic and self-serving. If indeed he intended it for his 3 children, why didn't he address them and not talk about himself, his acheivements, his dying? If I were leaving a message for my children and grandchildren, I certainly wouldn't repeat over and over and over that I was dying. I received my graduate degree when I was 52 years old, and have been to enough lectures with good looking, arrogant, self-serving professors to recognize one when I hear him. His message is trite and boring. So he's dying...aren't we all? Obstacles? Overcome them. DUH. He is feeding his ego with all the attention and as others have said, he is exploiting his illness to gain fame that somehow eluded him in his academic life. I do feel for him, and for his family, but enough already. Like everything else we Americans do, we've blown this all out of proportion and made a hero out of an egomaniac. Want to see a hero? Visit your local hospice and sit with those dying with grace.

Posted by: lee at March 10, 2008 5:09 PM

I too read these posts with fascination. I was overwhelmed by Randys message and immediately passed it on to friends and family alike. I wish him well. Perhaps he can right his wrongs and make the Karma crab feel better about the slights he might have sent his way. As for me, it was a great clip, I agree that often the Oprah audience is like a pack of sheep swallowing whatever she slings at them, but I was moved by his words. I also am always amazed at human nature, and the ghouls and crackpots that take the time to post. The insurance salesman who increases his income...the herbs and vitamins folk who believe Mr. Pausch can be cured with a good diet at this point. This blog is an amazing look at human nature. For better or worse.....

Posted by: Priscilla at March 10, 2008 8:31 PM

My comment is more of a question... can a person change from being and Eeyore into a Tigger? and if so... HOW?

Posted by: Ren at March 11, 2008 9:39 AM

I have to agree with the minority here. This is advertisement for Randy Pausch and nothing more. Something about the whole thing does not ring true. I'm willing to bet he "beats the odds" and survives this awful cancer by the power of positive thinking. And of course, that'll be his next book. I guess time will tell. According to his original projections he's currently living on borrowed time. However, if what he says makes people act more positively, even for a short time, I guess some good has come of it. He will, no doubt, get rich with his book and video (why are viewing the video meant soley for his children?) and we will move on to the next tear jerking sob story for a quick fix of gratitude that so many seem to thrive on. Personally, I give more weight to the testimony of those that worked with him or in some way crossed paths with him. They seem to all share the same sentiments. He is not the same man he would have us believe. PS I'd bet a years salary that he never dumped a can of soda in the back seat of a hard earned, source of pride he claims his first car was. HUGE red flag to his credibility to me.

Posted by: chris at March 12, 2008 9:59 PM

Thank you Randy! For focusing on life and not death! For being an inspiration for positive thinking and making us sit up, listen and become AWARE! I have no need to read all this negativity written in these posts. NO one has lived a perfect life where they have done NO wrong! I choose to accept the gift you have offered. I hope that your path you have chosen will give you a longer life. May you and your family be blessed. I only wish goodness to come to you.

Posted by: Cheryl at March 17, 2008 10:29 PM

Just remember one does not have to be a nice guy to leave a legacy. Nice people rarely make history, strong ones do. It's about great spirit and courage in overpowering circumstances, and even the most mean-spirited of those trying to put Randy down are awed by the power of his words.

Posted by: wbn at March 19, 2008 6:58 PM

I wish you the best in the time you have, and I hope for a miracle for you.
Tracy

Posted by: Tracy Carpenter at March 19, 2008 9:45 PM

Chris - yes, he did dump the soda...I was there...I'm his sister. There is so much I want to write and say....I've known Randy longer than anyone short of our mom....and yet...to respond is to give creditability to some of the horrible and nasty comments so freely posted here. What he has said in all of the venues is (pardon the pun) dead on *accurate*. The state of his health is exactly as he has stated it each and every time. Just a few days before he gave the "Last Lecture" at CMU, I was spending the weekend with Randy and his family...and he shared with me that this lecture was to be something being done for his children....his little children who may well be too young to remember all of the times that their dad was with them and played with them...all of the things he would have wanted to share with them about things that happened to him, things he learned himself and through other people, and most especially, how to lead your life. My father always taught us that "you are only as good as your word"...and Randy is as good as his word.

Posted by: Tammy at March 20, 2008 8:55 PM

Tammy- I am so sorry you had to read some of the negative comments that have been posted on here. Hopefully you will be able to filter through them and see how many lives have been touched in a positive way by your brother's willingness to share his story. Your brother had no way of knowing that his message would take touch hearts all over the world.

During this same time last year my friend, Laurie Bartram McCauley was dealing with pancreatic cancer. Like your brother... it came on out of nowhere. At Christmas time she looked beautiful in her family photo and by summer time she was gone. My friend was a former actress and when googling her name I found that her obituary (which she wrote herself) was written in different languages all over the world.

Like you I read good things and some not so good things that were very hurtful but at the same time I was so surprised by how wide spread the news of her death was. It was even listed in many of the "Friday the 13th" which she starred in. Who would have thought that the movie she was so embarrassed about being a part of would still be such a popular movie today? And the amazing thing is... she touched more people in her death than I will ever be able to touch in my lifetime.

I wrote a story about her life called, "The Girl Behind The Movie". You can read it on my myspace page at www.myspace.com/mycalico cat . I wrote an email to your brother sharing Laurie's story with him. Laurie left behind a husband and 5 children. They also live in Virginia and I know that my friend Greg would be more than happy to offer his strength, hope, and encouragement to your brother and his family during this time.

I shared this story with him last night and he watched the video today. He found it very surreal considering that his wife was dealing with the very same thing last year at this same time. My email address is jrossteach@aol.com. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as you go through this difficult time.

Jenny Ross
Cincinnati, Ohio

Posted by: Jenny at March 21, 2008 12:15 AM

I just watched Randy's time management video, and I have to say I have a mixed reaction. Obviously he is a not just smart but a beautiful person. Most people are, at some level. At the same time I groan at what I perceive as "professors' disease". He's been lording it over students, who can't talk back or don't know what to think, for so long that he assumes this is his rightful place in the universe. When someone tries to publicize an idea that is outside of the current river of research, no matter how well they defend it, they often are blocked by such academics who use "argument by arrogance".

Posted by: Mike at April 9, 2008 5:15 PM

I think Randy is a GREAT example of what the human spirit can achieve if we STAY positive. The issue is it is SO hard, esp. in the VERY negetive world in which we live. Randy seems to have achieved that and in this sense, his illness and passing WILL serve a purpose.

As for Karma Adjuster, he, like YOU OTHERS, have a RIGHT to give his opinion. Karma is simply stating his -- and it may very well be true -- however untimely it may SEEM for those that want to praise Randy. We ought to realize that Randy is HUMAN and therefore has flaws as well as positive traits. I can understand Karma's post, having been subjected to a lot of abuse myself. Hopefully, Karma can forgive, and NOT hold grudges, and focus more on the positive that Randy has offered and allow space for healing. If not, that's ok too, he will learn, as I and ALL OF US will, in time. I do not see that Karma attacked Randy, but only gave his opinion and facts as he sees them. For all we know, they could be true -- and maybe Randy's illness was a WONDERFUL opportunity to take a look at his ways and behavior and mend them -- which it seems like he did and thus the WONDERFUL example we have in Randy.

As for faith, Oprah was not obligated to "ask" what his faith is -- and Randy was SMART ENOUGH to respect that we all have different beliefs, and not get into this conversation. For those that are NOT Christian, there is Buddah, Allah, and in my case, being Pagan, the Goddess. To say that you feel "even sorrier" for Randy if he doesn't believe in God, is pathetic! You are judging someone based on your limited religious beliefs! This is worse than an honest criticizm from Karma!

At any rate, not to put the spotlight on Karma, but, I don't sense hate, just bitterness -- and we ALL have that about something/someONE!

Hopefully we can all heal from our bitterness/pain and hurt (yes, me too!). And, Randy can definitely help in the healing process.

One thing I wonder is if he looked into alternative healing -- I for one strongly believe in this and have met many who have recovered from cancer w/these methods. However, again, the choice is Randy's.

Blessed be....and may we all heal in our own time.

Posted by: O. Acosta at April 9, 2008 11:19 PM

C. S. Lewis summed up what many of us have wondered and what Randy has bore witness to:

"Death is Stronger than Life
but Love is Stronger than Death"

Godspeed My Friend

Posted by: bme at April 9, 2008 11:46 PM

I too saw the special with D Sawyer and Randy. It was nice to see how well he is adjusting to dying. He moved right past the denial stage and to total acceptance. Of course he is doing alot of therapies so maybe he is prolonging the dying process? Lots of people have cancer and are dying from it, not just Randy. Not everyone can be so accepting and happy about it all. Randy's experience is his own and others have their own ways of dealing with death and dying that are just as real to them and as important. I don't think we should hold Randy up as the standard that dying people should now have. That's what I find unfortunate about this whole thing.

Posted by: Jamie at April 10, 2008 7:00 AM

Mr. Pausch, what about God? What about His glory?

My prayers are with you and your beautiful family. You have a wonderful message and it really touched me, but don't you believe in God and if so, why hide it?

Posted by: Angela at April 10, 2008 10:21 AM

I am writing this on April 8, 2008 over seven months after the Oprah show. I have a simple question. Is Mr. Pausch still alive and how is he doing. At the time he said he has three months to live. --- Perry

Posted by: Perry at April 10, 2008 4:59 PM

For those who've shared their honest opinions, thank you. No judgement forthcoming from me.

I will simply say that Dr. Pausch's speech was inspirational to me on a number of levels & I am grateful that he has shared it with all of us.

Thank you, Dr. Randy Pausch. Thank you, Jai Pausch. I will keep all of you in my thoughts & prayers.

Posted by: Jules at April 11, 2008 4:04 PM

May God bless you and your family, Mr. Pausch. Don't give up and know that God is the one in control. All the negativism is irrelevant and your intentions are true. Please don't be so arrogant though as to predict your own death - God only knows that. He made us and He is the only one who knows when we are finished on this earth. I'm sure many people won't like this comment, that's fine. But, it is the truth. Please spend less time giving speeches about you are dying and spend more time trusting in God for a miracle - and spending time with your family - they are beautiful and need you now. We are all dying - I'm so sorry for your condition and the toll it's taking on you and your family and you all will be in my prayers.

I pray for a miracle for you - it can happen. Just have faith!

Angela

Posted by: Angela at April 11, 2008 11:50 PM

I find it ironic that Randy espouses truthfulness, and yet he hides the truth of his illness from his children.

I think this decision is robbing his children of crucial time to prepare and process the situation.

It's just not fair to blindside a young kid with a sudden passing.

Posted by: Elizabeth at April 13, 2008 10:24 PM

I too was a student of Randy Pausch's back at the University of Virginia 20 years ago. I felt that he had a positive impact on my life back then. I was an extremely introverted student who didn't really want any attention from my professors, but he went out of his way to make an effort to advise me on the courses I was taking and the direction I was heading academically.

So, my personal experience with him was very positive, and I found the lecture interesting and some points definitely resonated with me - like the brick wall analogy.

I can also completely understand why people would be turned off by his arrogance and apparent self-promotion, and I support their right to state their opinion, especially people who know him personally. It seems that people and/or this crazy media frenzy want to turn him into a saint, which I'm sure he himself would not be comfortable with.

I didn't know him well, but based on my limited personal knowledge of him, I suspect that he is not motivated by selling himself or by manipulating people for money. I think he really believes that he is helping people be their best, and he obviously is helping people based on the reaction to the lecture. I would be more comfortable, though, if people weren't idolizing him and viciously attacking anyone who dared to offer a different opinion!

Posted by: PW at April 15, 2008 12:25 AM

Personally, I think Dr. Pausch accepted the book deal to provide for his family and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. The amount of money people get paid is totally out of whack anyway (public school teachers get less than $40K, while professional athletes make $40 million), so why shouldn’t a dying college professor be able to make his family financially secure, maybe inspire some people to change their lives for the better and use his illness as a bully pulpit for cancer research? What’s so wrong with that?

From the NY Times:

“Although Dr. Pausch let Diane Sawyer prepare a one-hour special for ABC-TV about his talk and cancer battle that will be broadcast on Wednesday evening, he has turned down movie offers and even declined an approach from a documentary filmmaker. “It was time I didn’t have,” he said.

Dr. Pausch said that his wife persuaded him to write the book, but that he was worried it would take too much time away from the children. Because he rode his bike every day to keep up his strength, he spoke with his co-writer, Mr. Zaslow, by phone on 53 one-hour bike rides.”

While Randy's talk did touch me, I can’t say that I agree with everything he said, and I also knew that there would be people that would say "eh". Let's face it. "Seinfeld" doesn't make everyone laugh, "Bambi" doesn't make everyone cry, and not everyone got nightmares from "The Exorcist". I don’t think that’s really the point. The fact that this video of a dying college professor speaking to 400 people has gone viral may say something about him, but more so, it says something about us.

Thoreau said, “Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.”

Most people like, even need, to have heroes. We need them so much that sometimes we make some pretty weird choices about who we look up to. I don’t think that Randy Pausch intended to be a hero to anyone, except maybe his his kids. I doubt that he's the one that slapped the video up on YouTube. If he ends up being a hero to hundreds, or thousands, or even millions, that’s okay. We could do a lot worse.

Posted by: Paula at April 15, 2008 7:36 PM

Why all the negativity?

Randy's last lecture is very inspiring. I can't believe there are some people here going, "Oh, he's still alive..." - shouldn't we be glad if he gets to live longer than what the doctor's originally expected.
Another person basically said that Randy's illness was a sham and he'll be cured, so he can write his second book on the power of positive thinking. Are people really this negative.

As far as former students go, everyone has a right to their own opinions. I go to a small school and there have been teachers that I loved and teacher's that get on my nerves, but if the teacher's that got on my nerves were diagnosed
with a terminal illness, I don't know, maybe, I'd let my bad feelings go and have some compassion for them and their family.

I'm sorry that Randy's sister had to read some of these uncalled for comments on this board.

Posted by: Carol at April 19, 2008 10:50 PM

Ok..Karma Adjuster had a "hands on" experience with Randy Pausch and is entitled to his opinion. But didn't Mr. Pausch say that be patient give people enough time and they will show you their good side..noone is all bad or evil.. I truly believe that.

I'm not excusing anyone's "bad" behavior on either side..Mr. Pausch's teaching methods or Karma's grudge holding.

Bottom line...noone's perfect..not to get religious, but another great teacher said.."He who is without sin, cast the first stone"...

At least Randy is choosing the better option to leave behind...self-reflection, being positive, helping other's, not complaining..doing your best..I could go on..

Bless him and his contribution to humanity and the planet.

Peace,

Lisa

Posted by: Lisa at April 21, 2008 12:28 PM

I have to disagree with you, Elizabeth. I don't think it would be a smart choice telling the kids too soon. Kids can't wrap their brains around the concept of time as we adults can. So if you tell a child their parent is very sick and will die in six months, they're going to be terrified from that moment until the parent eventually dies. So if the sick parent appears to be healthy and is functioning "normally", then I don't believe you should inflict that kind of terror until the very end. I believe Randy and Jai Pausch said they planned to wait until he was in bed and obviously sick before they told the kids. Then and only then can the children see what is actually happening to their Dad. So until that happens, they're continuing to create happy memories as a family. Their kids are joyful and as a parent myself, that is the best sight. The pain will come, but why inflict it any sooner than you have to?

Posted by: Bina at April 22, 2008 9:03 AM

LEAVE "KARMA" ALONE
HE'S ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION OF THE MAN. IF ANYONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO COMMENT ITS SOMEONE WHO KNEW HIM FIRSTHAND. ITS GREAT THAT HE HAD THIS GREAT EPPIFANY NOW THAT HES DYING, BUT WHAT IF HE WAS ROTTEN TO HIS STUDENTS. HE'S DYING -LOTS OF PEOPLE DIE AND CHANGE HOW THEY TREAT PEOPLE TO LEAVE A BETTER LEGACY-REAL CHARACTER IS HOW YOU LIVE WHEN NO-ONES WATCHING AND DAYS AREN'T NUMBERED.HE SEEMS ANGRY WITH GOD. HE SAID HIS FATHER WAS THE MOST CHRISTIAN MAN HE EVER KNEW YET HE GAVE NO MENTION OF GOD IN HIS LAST TESTAMENT FOR HIS CHILDREN.(OR ANY OF THE TELEVISED INTERVIEWS) IT SEEMS HE WAS BLESSED WITH SUCH INTELLIGENCE HE COULDN'T ACCEPT THAT GOD-NOT "KARMA" IS IN CONTROL.
LIFE'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE MEANINGLESS WITHOUT GOD IN YOUR LIFE. THAT IS ONE LESSON I FEAR RANDY PASCH MAY REALIZE TOO LATE.

Posted by: MARCY at April 25, 2008 1:57 PM

I think a $6 million deal from Disney would have tempted most dying men with young children. So lets cut him a break. Most folks who win lotteries end up bankcrupt financially and unfortunately probably morally as well. Remember the poor kids have to live with this tasteless legacy and will spend their lives trying hard to avoid it. I feel so bad for Randy because the cancer is such a terrible break, but my heart goes out to his poor family whose memories of him have been so heapened by the big redneck house in Chesapeake as some kind of trophy..

Posted by: lila at April 25, 2008 9:16 PM

Correction: please not "repeaned" s/h read "cheapened" -- OOPS!!

I think a $6 million deal from Disney would have tempted most dying men with young children. So lets cut him a break. Most middle-class folks who win lotteries end up bankcrupt financially and unfortunately probably morally as well. Remember the poor kids have to live with this tasteless legacy and will spend their lives trying hard to avoid it. I feel so bad for Randy because the cancer is such a terrible break, but my heart goes out to his poor family whose memories of him have been so cheapened by the big redneck house in Chesapeake as some kind of trophy..

Posted by: yo at April 25, 2008 9:24 PM

I think a $6 million deal from Disney would have tempted most dying men with young children. So lets cut him a break. Most middle-class folks who win lotteries end up bankcrupt financially and unfortunately probably morally as well. Remember the poor kids have to live with this tasteless legacy and will spend their lives trying hard to avoid it. I feel so bad for Randy because the cancer is such a terrible break, but my heart goes out to his poor family whose memories of him have been so heapened by the big redneck house in Chesapeake as some kind of trophy..

Posted by: mom9504 at April 25, 2008 9:36 PM

I was struck by him saying that things don't matter and pouring a can of soda over the back seat of the sports car to prove it.

But if things don't matter, why did he buy a sports car in the first place?

Perhaps to demonstrate his superiority in saying, I can afford to buy it and afford to wreck it, while others live below the poverty line...?

Please help me understand this apparent insensitivity.

Posted by: bazko at April 28, 2008 5:33 AM

Well, Bina, since Randy is always going on about how little time he has left, I don't think it's "too soon" to tell his children the truth.

I never suggested, however, giving his kids a specific time frame. I just think that if he suddenly goes from "healthy" to "obviously sick" to dead, then his kids will come to fear that anyone they love, no matter how strong and vital, can be taken away, without warning.

Maintaining a facade is not constructive in these situations. Honesty is not "terror." Honesty helps us come to terms with the reality of human existence.

Posted by: Elizabeth at April 29, 2008 11:01 PM

Bazko, I don't think he was being arrogant about buying an expensive car and then messing it up. I beleive the point he was trying to make to his niece, nephew, and sister was not to make a big deal out of the fact "Uncle Randy has a new car and don't mess it up!" He said it wasn't a big deal if the kids messed up the car and to drive that point home, he spilled the soda just to show everyone not to worry so much. I believe he's just that kind of person. It's just stuff, so why make a big deal over it. Apparently, his actions that day made quite an impact on his niece and nephew. From the Diane Sawyer interview, they said they were shocked by his actions, but it was cool.

So why the need to make a big deal out of this? Why do you think he's snubbing his nose at impoverished people? That's ridiculous! Talk about reading WAY too much into something. It is what it is!!

Posted by: Bina at April 30, 2008 10:55 AM

Hi Elizabeth, I understand your point about being honest and the reality of the human existance. There's no question about whether telling the kids is the right thing to do. I think we're disagreeing about "when" to tell them. Since his kids are so young, 6, 4, & 2, they can't grasp the concept as well as say a ten year old can. Randy has the so-called luxury of knowing he has a very short time left to live, so he can try to prepare as best as possible. From my research on pancreatic cancer, I don't believe you suddenly drop dead. I'm sure a person inflicted with this disease begins to lose the ability to function normally until they're bedridden and eventually die. From my understanding, both Randy and his wife feel when he's bedridden then and only then will it be the right time to explain to the kids what is happening.

I know what you're saying about the kids being afraid of losing someone regardless of how strong and vital they are. I'm afraid that will happen regardless of then they're told they're father is dying. I'm sure they'll be afraid for quite sometime. I feel for Mrs. Pausch because it is going to be so hard.

With all the treatment he's undergoing, he's buying some time, but it's not a cure. The final outcome will be the same. He and his wife have the right to talk to their children about this when they feel it is right. By not saying something to them doesn't mean they're being dishonest. They're being honest loving parents who are dealing with a horrific reality.

Posted by: Bina at May 2, 2008 1:00 PM

"I was struck by him saying that things don't matter and pouring a can of soda over the back seat of the sports car to prove it.

But if things don't matter, why did he buy a sports car in the first place?

Perhaps to demonstrate his superiority in saying, I can afford to buy it and afford to wreck it, while others live below the poverty line...?

Please help me understand this apparent insensitivity."

Bazko, you've got to be kidding. College professors don't take vows of poverty. If he wants to have a convertible, so be it. He enjoys it and he wanted his neice and nephew to enjoy it too. Geez!


Posted by: Paula at May 6, 2008 8:08 PM

some really cool "did ya notice" Randy Pausch stuff:

This story has a little bit of everything in it. Did ya notice the Disney connection to Randy's story? Let's see, Hyperion publishes the book and ABC just happens to do a piece on Randy Pausch at the same time the book was released; both companies are owned by Disney. That is cool.

Did ya notice that Randy repeated over and over "I will be gone in a few months" in his speech (which was essential for all of those tears) but that was 8 months ago and he is still healthy and has even picked up $7M along the way. That is so cool.

Did ya notice that Randy is now saying that his medical team has assured him that he has a 100% chance of dying before the end of this year. Putting aside for a moment the fact that if his physicians are telling him that he will die by a certain date is unprofessional, but they have been wrong so many times before that I don't believe I would bet the barn on their prediction abilities just yet. But if they are wrong AGAIN (I'm certain they will be) that would be very cool because I for one want Randy Pausch to live many, many more years so that he can continue to inspire the masses of intellectually challenged Americans through his apocryphal story.

Randy, even as more and more people begin to discover what a phony you are DON'T GIVE UP. At this point it has become a great source of amusement to to me to discover how many people there are on this earth that are incapable of seeing what you have done. Please give us more vulture photos that have been purposefully swapped and more health updates that contradict a previous health update FOR THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME. It's great stuff!

Posted by: de Selby at May 6, 2008 9:44 PM

I am trying desperately to contact Randy Pausch. I know that he has tried everything directed to him by the doctors, but does he know about the HEALING REVIVAL going on in Lakeland, Florida. It is online everynight. He really should be given an option to go there himself to receive healing. He deserves this one last opportunity, for his sake and for the sake of his family who love him dearly. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONTACT HIM TO PASS ON THIS INFORMATION.
THE REVIVAL CAN BE SEEN ON GODTV.COM AND ALSO AT:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/great-florida-healing-revival

HE CAN CHECK OUT THE SITE WHERE THE REVIVAL STARTED AT "IGNITED CHURCH" WEBSITE:
http://www.ignitedchurch.com/

The revival has moved out of the church into a venue that holds up to 9000 people and it is packed full every night. Check it out for yourself.
Sincerely,
June

Posted by: June at May 7, 2008 4:55 PM

I am deeply saddened that I haven't heard him mention ANYTHING about Jesus Christ--our only hope for eternal life.....

Posted by: Lisa Milarch at May 9, 2008 10:51 PM

What a great speaker, and my heart goes out to him and his beautiful family.
If I could ever ask Randy one question, it would be this....
Got Jesus?
I sure hope so! I'd love to see him on the other side......

Posted by: Lisa Milarch at May 11, 2008 8:28 PM

What's a big redneck house? Chesapeake is not redneck country and is a great family oriented community.
I think Randy and his wife are very wise to move near her family. The kids now have good memories of their Dad in their new house and rather than being without support in Pittsburgh or having to leave the home that had all the memories of dad.

Posted by: Lynn at May 17, 2008 11:03 PM

Why are people attacking Randy Pausch on this message board? Does it make them feel superior in some twisted way? If you didn't get the point of his lecture or if you just don't like the guy, then move on with your own life and stop spreading such hate. There is a way to disagree with someone without making ignorant, hate filled statements. This message board is an anonymous and faceless way of communicating your thoughts, so please think about what you say before typing.

Posted by: Bina at May 20, 2008 5:20 PM

I agree with you Bina. What a waste of time. All I can say is walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you presume to know a person's experience. I don't know if I would handle dying and leaving my children behind with such candor and class.

Posted by: Lisa at May 21, 2008 2:39 AM

Bina,
A small percentage of the people in this country know that Randy's story is apocryphal. If you choose to be inspired by someone who has profited from lying about dying from pancreatic cancer then that is your right. I am not inspired by Randy's story; I am offended by it so you do not speak for me Bina. I have never been a part of the mindless-go-along-with-the-herd crowd. Please continue to be inspired by Randy's lies of "I'll be gone in a few months" even as he cashed in for $7M almost immediately and his speech is rapidly approaching the one year anniversary. Please continue to tell yourself that you really believe that Randy Pausch honestly believed that he would be dead in "a few months" when he kept repeating those words in his speech. As for me, I am glad that we have the 5%, or so, of people who have heard his speech and responded by saying it sounds exactly like a sales pitch or that it is phony. If everyone in this country blindly believed Randy's speech in spite of all the evidence that shows that at least some of Randy's words were intentional lies, then I would think that is pretty sad for this country. Lets see: We are battling terrorism, trying to improve the economy, improve the standard of living for our citizens, etc, etc. The problem is that improving each of those things requires intelligence and we have clearly demonstrated that we are a nation that is so unintelligent (95% of us anyway) that we can not even see that Randy Pausch is not dying and that he has profited from his intentional lies. It is disgraceful. I am not in the habit of admiring disgraceful things Bina.

Bina, you have a right to admire Randy Pausch in spite of his numerous lies; I have a right to find his story offensive and I assure you I do. But I have great news Bina: you will be able to listen to all of Randy's lies that you love so much for many years to come. I guarantee you he will still be alive more than 5 years from today.


Posted by: de Selby at May 21, 2008 6:51 PM

I would just like to know if any of you who claim that Randy's story is bogus are willing to come back and apologize, or at least admit you were wrong, the day after he dies. You may be right in your assessments, but I'll bet a year's salary not one of you will have the gonads to step up when and if the time comes.

Posted by: Raymond G. at May 23, 2008 10:01 PM

I am confident that lying, and profiting from lying, about dying from pancreatic cancer would be considered by most people to be a mistake. The relevant words from Randy's speech were "admit when you have made a mistake and always tell the truth".

Randy, your words are waiting for you to follow them.

Posted by: Jack Merridew at May 24, 2008 12:38 PM

Raymond G.,
Are you always so capricious with statements about your money? You would lose that year's salary if Randy were to actually die of pancreatic cancer. Now I will make a bet: I'll bet you wouldn't pay. Raymond I'll bet my prediction is closer to truth than yours is.
Throughout all of my life cancer has always been there; it is what kills my family more than anything else. I know exactly how devastating adenocarcinoma is; if I thought for a minute that Randy were actually dying from it then I would never say the things I am saying. If Randy actually dies from it (which I seriously doubt) then I will apologize. I am confident that he will not die of pancreatic cancer though. I am confident that Randy has exploited his story for profit and that he has not done this alone; Disney has helped him all the way with the "viral growth" of this story.
To see the lies in this story does not require that one score a 45 on the MCAT or even go to medical school. All that is required is that the observer of the story possess some common sense. Unfortunately this country seems to be almost out of common sense.
How does that saying go Raymond? "If it seems to good to be true then it probably is." The most cogent evidence of Randy's fraud has been provided by Randy himself. Randy Pausch is NOT dying; even better news is that Randy NEVER was dying.

Posted by: de Selby at May 25, 2008 3:01 PM

de Selby,

Bravo! Thank you for proving my point that just because this is an anonymous, faceless way of communicating, people like you think it's acceptable to be hateful and rude. I can almost hear you thumping your chest! Feeling good about yourself now, de Selby? Good, now I'll sleep better knowing that.

I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself. It's know-it-alls like you who think YOU speak the truth and the rest are idiots. Go ahead and have your own opinion, but don't you call anyone who disagrees with you "unintelligent." As a matter of fact, you sound very unintelligent when you make those hate filled comments. There is a proper way of having a conversation and disagreeing without being a jerk, de Selby.

I'm not going to get into whether Randy is lying or dying with you. It would be pointless, since you don't seem to have the ability to have a mature debate without resorting to name-calling. So that being said, have a nice day, de Selby.

Posted by: Bina at May 27, 2008 1:05 PM

Bina,
There is nothing hateful about the few of us that know that Randy is a fraud objecting to his fraud. And calling Randy a fraud is not name calling Bina. It is an accurate description of Randy. You wonder why I use words like "unintelligent" to describe his supporters but then many of his supporters use words out of context just like you do. Bina, I could care less what your opinion is of the Randy Pausch story; I know it is fraud and I object to this fraud. Randy could have chosen to lie about an infinite number of other things and I would never have posted a single objection. Randy chose to lie about this and I am one of the few who chooses to object to it. To me it is disturbing that someone would care so much about fame and fortune that they would tell this lie. It is disgraceful. Randy Pausch is NOT dying. I think that when I write those words you think that I'm saying "I THINK he's not dying". Let me assure you that I am not saying that. I am telling you that HE IS NOT DYING and that he never was dying. He intentionally lied during his first speech and also his reprise on Oprah. This is fraud. Regardless of what you want this story to be Bina, it is nothing more than that.

It is so ironic that at its core his speech was really about character and yet he has exhibited so little character himself by lying, and profiting from lying about an illness that he never had.

Posted by: de Selby at May 27, 2008 9:26 PM

de Selby...

Now that you've got all that off your chest, and turned this discussion personal in the process, perhaps you could itemize the holes in Randy's story that have led you to your conclusions. I see a lot of rhetoric in your comments, but not one word to back up why you believe them to be so. Please share them with us, as I'm sure others here besides myself would be interested to hear them.

On a side note, the "year's salary" remark is a figure of speech. Are we really going to distract ourselves with semantics on so important a discussion?

Posted by: Raymond G. at May 28, 2008 1:04 AM

Randy was obsessed his whole life with fulfilling dreams and in creating VIRTUAL reality. He needs to wake up know true reality that he is a hair away from the judgment seat. It appears he has neither a belief in, noe a fear of God. He needs to do as the witnesser said. Repent and believe in Jesus. On a final note: CS Lewis was an apostate who is in Hell. I hope Randy finnds The Truth which is Jesus Christ!!

Posted by: bob at May 30, 2008 5:16 AM

de Selby,

I appreciate the time you took to detail why you believe what you believe. There has been a lot of histrionic debate back and forth on this page, with very little substance and a whole lot of emotion. It's good to see some informed opinion for a change, and I must say I underestimated the thought you have devoted to this issue. I can understand completely what has led you to your conclusions. Thanks for laying it out.

That said, I remain unconvinced, and I suppose if a year from now we are still talking about Mr. Pausch in the present tense, I'll have to scrape up a year's salary from somewhere. Time will tell.

For all the things you list as red flags, I can list others that speak to my own version of common sense. If this has all been staged, then he has duped a lot of people, including virtually all the faculty at Carnegie Mellon, up to and including the Dean himself. He has thrown away a career he has spent a lifetime building, in exchange for a quick buck. And he has perpetrated a fraud so distasteful and repugnant, I find it hard to believe possible.

We can, of course, go back and forth all day on this. I've had my say, and I'll let it go at that. For now we will agree to disagree, and see what happens. It should be interesting.

Cheers.

Posted by: Raymond G. at June 2, 2008 4:52 PM

de Selby, What are the Sara Gold postings?
What do you mean he reversed his health update?

Posted by: bob at June 2, 2008 5:27 PM

Raymond G.,
Did you notice what you did? There are several things that have happened in this story that have not been normal and you dismiss them as normal. That's fine. Like I said in my last posting, I believe that only a small percentage of this country can actually see what Randy has done. By the way, your posting says to me that you really believe that Randy thought he would "be dead in a few months" when he kept repeating those words during his speech. I guess that just makes me the greatest predictor since Nostradamus. I feel sorry for all of the people that look at this story and can not see how predictable it is and what the true purpose of this story was - Money. Years from now when some of you finally "get it" you still want really "get it". At that point you will know that Randy was lying but you will still think the Randy Pausch story was only about Randy Pausch. The Randy Pausch story is as much about this country as it is Randy Pausch. If you are an observant person then you will notice that our country is changing; I suspect that the Randy Pausch supporters probably haven't noticed the change. Instead of raising the bar for integrity we have been lowering the bar for years: Abir Hamza, Enron, Waterboarding, etc. The Randy Pausch story is one more example of how lost this country currently is. Randy Pausch is not dying. Convincing you (or anyone else) of that fact doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is for you to know that I knew from his first speech that he wasn't dying. The wool he has pulled over most of this nations eyes, he has not pulled over mine. Usually the majority opinion is correct; I promise you this is an exeption because the minority have this one right.

Bob,
Randy has gone on and on about how this story experienced a magical "viral growth". People like me (who are a general pain in the ass when they suspect lies) dig and dig and dig until their suspicions are either confirmed or disproved. In my digging I found postings from a "Sara Gold" all over the web. You want to know something really cool? She has posted here too. The funny thing about her postings is that they always say exactly the same thing and smell a lot like marketing.
The fact that you are asking about the reversed health update tells me you either do not visit Randy's webpage or you don't pay close attention to what he writes. Randy reported himself as healthy on a date and then later changed that to "creeping growth" for the SAME PERIOD OF TIME. Now, our good friend Raymond G. will tell you that there is nothing even remotely suspicious about that. To me it stinks just like this whole story stinks.

Randy Pausch is not dying. He is not dying today; he is not dying tomorrow; he is not dying next week; he is not dying next month; he is not dying 10 years from now. The reason he is not dying is because he does not have, and NEVER had, a terminal condition.

Posted by: de Selby at June 2, 2008 7:10 PM

Even with all of de Selby's points outlining why he believes Randy Pausch is lying, I too remain unconvinced. I have to agree with Raymond's reply that this would be a fraud so repugnant that it is hard to believe. Why would Disney, Hyperion, and ABC conspire with Randy to dupe the world? For money? Still not buying it. Sounds like an X-Files episode.

As far as not caring about my opinion on the Randy Pausch story, de Selby. Sure you care. If you didn't, then why would you initiate a post directly to me repeating my name over and over? Whatever. I found it amusing.


Posted by: Bina at June 3, 2008 12:03 AM

de Selby, I made a concerted effort to keep the tone of our discussion polite in my last post, because I respect your opinion even while I do not agree with it. It's unfortunate you couldn't have responded in kind, rather than breathlessly regurgitating how there is only one possible take on this whole subject, and how you have sole ownership of the absolute truth. The way you express your opinion to and about others whose viewpoints differ from yours seems to me to speak to a different issue, although I have no idea what that might be.

In any case, your efforts to sway the populace would probably be better served elsewhere, since the rest of us here are apparently too damned stupid to grasp the genius of your insight.

The stage is yours for the last word on this. This whole exercise has devolved into an exercise in rudeness and negativity, and I have a bus to catch.

Posted by: Raymond G. at June 3, 2008 12:45 PM

Oh my....!?

I really don't understand the logic behind your deduction and conclusions.

I think the man was successful enough on his own merit without having to LIE about dying. I truly believe you are a negative and very jaded person to even want to believe that and go to such lengths to try and prove it.

Posted by: Lisa at June 3, 2008 1:51 PM

Randy was a professor in academia and to make it in that world involves a process that culls out the true Christian or even one who knows evolution is false. People like Randy learn early on that to get ahead in that largely, left wing, socialist, anti-godly arena, one must learn to deny the truth and simply regurgitate back to teachers (propagandists) what they want to hear. If you tell the truth on an exam, you may get a poor grade. If you regurgitate the lie (Darwinism, socialism. psychology, etc) then you'll get ahead. To progress in education and climb the ladder in education is to be brainwashed. People like Randy learned long ago that matters pertaining to God weren't good for his career. Randy cares more about fulfilling dreams than truth. Too bad. It's true that to succeed in American education and increasingly in any field, that one must sell their soul and conform. Unfortunately, truth is out and PC is in.

Posted by: bob at June 4, 2008 2:17 PM

Raymond G. and Bina,
I have great news for both of you: This will be my last posting to this blog. A combination of becoming bored with repeating the same thing over and over and the realization that my IQ is dropping everytime I read the mindless dribble that most of you post has caused me to lose interest.

Just a couple of comments as I exit:

Raymond,
You and Bina wonder why I question the intelligence of those who believe Randy but your posting serves as an excellent example why. Even after I specifically stated that swaying the opinions of others wast not my goal you indicate that you think it is.

Ze, since Raymond was the first to say "too damned stupid..." I should be allowed to respond to that. Raymond, you are right; I do think that most of you are "too damned stupid" (just repeating your words) to see what Randy has done. See Raymond, there is hope after all because even people as different as you and I can find something to agree on. And, I have news for you - I am not the only person in this country that knows Randy is lying.

Bina,
Thanks for the "X-files" comment. It tells me something about you; again, all that digging.

I guess the only thing that all 3 of us agree on is that regardless of whether the two of you believe Randy is lying or not, you both believe that it would be disgraceful for someone to profit from lying about dying from an illness that devastates those that are truly afflicted with it. If we agree on nothing else, I respect that fact that we at least agree on that.

I have said since my first viewing of Randy Pausch's video that he is not dying. I say that even louder today because back then I only thought I was right; today I know I am. Randy Pausch is NOT dying. I guarantee you he won't be dead 10 years from now because he has NEVER been diagnosed with anything more serious than nonmalignant cystic or endocrine neoplasm and he has PURPOSEFULLY chosen to call that "terminal pancreatic cancer".

In the words of the venerable Jack Merridew:

Randy, your words are waiting for you to follow them.

Posted by: de Selby at June 4, 2008 8:01 PM

Now that de Selby has promised to let the issue rest, at least on this forum, I would encourage the rest of you to continue the discussion without further response to his diatribes. In doing a little looking I have discovered that de Selby has been a very busy little boy. What he seems to like to do is visit every website he can where there is discussion on Randy Pausch, tell everyone what fools they are, and sit back and watch the ensuing carnage. In so doing, he turns the topic from Randy to himself. You will probably see a similar pattern on other forums he visits that deal with different topics - anyone who has a different opinion is by default an idiot, be it Randy Pausch or anything else. People like de Selby are called "flamers". They live for the notoriety that being a jackass brings and half the time, they don't even believe what they say. They're attention-seekers and they just want the reaction. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

My apologies to the rest of you for having to witness this, the hijacking of a valid discussion by an argument between a buffoon and an individual who should have known better than to take the bait.

Posted by: Raymond G. at June 8, 2008 5:22 PM

de Selby,

Now I finally understand why you post the ridiculous comments that you do. Apparently, you must have spent way too much time on this and probably other message boards which has caused your IQ to significantly drop. How can I fault you for your mindless ramblings when I now know the reasons behind them? I hope this break from the message board will boost those points back up to the genius level you so desperately want everyone to believe you are!

If you say Randy Pausch does not have nor has he ever had terminal pancreatic cancer, then prove it. Don't expect intelligent people to follow your words and conclusions based on just your opinion. Are his doctors a bunch of frauds? If so, where is the proof? Just because you change your opinion from "I believe he's lying" to "I know he's lying" isn't good enough to convert intelligent people's minds.

Posted by: Bina at June 9, 2008 11:28 AM

Hi. I was wondering if Randy had ever heard of Abraham-Hicks? Or has he read any of the SETH material. There are so many un-imaginable ways to heal ones self. I, for one, have little or no faith what-so-ever in doctors of any so-called "specialization". We carry with us the ability to heal our own bodies with our minds. Please, if anyone reads this, try desparately to present this information to Randy. There is more truth and understanding in the conscious acts of creation and that energy flows where attention goes. I believe in Randys strength and I applaud his wonderful courage.

Posted by: Ken at June 10, 2008 4:52 PM

Well, "Dr." de Selby - there's always at least one conspiracy theorist out there (as well as a few asshats). I guess you think that moon landing took place with the help of a Disney studio as well, eh? You're almost comical now. Do you think Randy subjected himself to a ridiculous Whipple proceedure simply to validate and to frame-up this "big lie" - or is that now the medically-adopted course of treatment for "non-malignant cystic or endocrine neoplasm?" Because, if so - I would think that his malpractice suit against the doctors who misdiagnosed him and cut-out a fairly good percentage of his guts would pay him off rather handsomely, where he could ultimately save himself the embarrassment of being disgraced in the eyes of his children as a "fraud." I'll tell you what - if lightning strikes you in the head today, I'll consider your death real - not staged, OK? You'll go out an honest to God hero - and not as a fraud. Now I'll cross my fingers, turn on the Weather Channel, and look for ominous clouds.

Posted by: SMMFC at June 11, 2008 9:02 AM

Good point, Raymond G. There seems to be a place for the antagonist in both theatre and "real life". Let's just say de Selby's antics are a good example of "life imitating art." My apologies to the rest of the board for being "hungry" enough to respond. That said, I do feel quite dirty now - knowing that de Selby's narcissistic condition likely has him naked, breathing very heavy, and perspiring all over his chair as he takes in these various responses to his posts. I feel so violated! How could I have been so foolish to willingly participate in the fueling of his warped sexual fantasy??? I'm sorry, I must go shower now.

Posted by: SMMFC at June 11, 2008 1:41 PM

SMMFC,

You made good comments regarding Randy, but I won't let your remark slide regarding the moon landing. I know that Apollo never put anyone on the moon. There are many valid conspiracies.

Posted by: bob at June 11, 2008 7:17 PM

That's fine, Bob. I'd expect nothing less from a man who knows "the truth."

Posted by: SMMFC at June 15, 2008 11:16 AM

SMMFC,

I don't know "the truth" as you put it. I only know the truth that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon.

Posted by: bob at June 18, 2008 3:37 AM

I'm in the United Kingdom and came across this by chance while looking at a reputable Cancer help website looking for information that might be of help to my husband who is currently trying to decide what action to take following a recurrence of bowel cancer. Believe me doctors do sometimes give bad news and say that they cannot offer a cure.

I can't honestly believe that Randy Pausch does not have pancreatic cancer and has made this whole thing up as a scam to get a book deal etc and frankly, it's insulting to all the other people out here who are currently faceing huge challenges in their own lives to even suggest such a thing.

I can't be bothered to work my way back through all these posts and address every issue but I think it might be worth pointing out that Professor Pausch is an academic and in that capacity was invited by his university to give a lecture. This, very appositely, was called "The Last Lecture. It might be reasonable to suppose that he would not have chosen to speak publicly about his condition but in the circumstances when asked to consider what he could say to an audience of students he chose to share with them his feelings about his situation.

To be confronted by your mortality at a reasonably young age is not a pleasant prospect and I for one wish Randy Pausch and his family all the very best of luck in the days ahead of them.

Posted by: Alison at June 18, 2008 12:35 PM

Wow! Some of you are a cruel bunch. We should be happy that Randy is living longer than his original diagnosis. I don't believe for a second (and I have common sense, thank you) that he and Disney are purposely lying. Let his wife, kids, and family have this time with him. What would you do if you were Randy Pausch? Let the guy be.

Posted by: Carol at June 20, 2008 9:09 AM

Ok, I thought of something that may quiet the naysayers regarding Randy's condition. On his webpage with his day to day updates there is a picture of all the medications he takes on a daily basis for his "condition" (I believe him). He is explaining the design of Target Pharmacy's bottles and how they make the world a better place. The rubber ring in one color indicates that ONE person is prescribed that medication to avoid mixup in a household of others taking prescriptions. Anyone worth their salt would research his meds before coming to a conclusion that he's lying...I don't know..just a suggestion.

Posted by: Lisa at June 25, 2008 1:44 PM

I pray that Randy knows Jesus, and has a personal relationship with Him! Randy is a GREAT guy, and I hope to one day meet him in heaven! As smart as he is, I haven't heard him talk much about Jesus through all of this, and Jesus can make all the difference in the world!
I may be wrong, and if so, I hope that I don't offend anybody. I just feel that if you are gonna give a last lecture about life, Jesus should be on top of the list.

Posted by: lisa milarch at June 26, 2008 5:16 PM

With each passing day that Randy is alive, I don't begin to doubt his story; I celebrate the miracle of life. I hope he beats this disease. I don't understand how some of you who make such cruel heartless comments can look at yourselves in the mirror. It speaks to the type of person they are. I for one am happy Randy has fought this so hard. It doesn't mean he's lying. It means his family has him for one more day.

Unfortunately, his recent tumor count has increased to 1400. That is a big jump in his count six weeks ago. I recall one of his previous blogs saying that when this is all over, his count will be around 5000. Randy and Family, you're in my thoughts. Keep getting stronger and fighting!

Posted by: Bina at June 29, 2008 11:11 AM

Lisa,

Randy's comments are those of a man who doesn't believe in God. Of course, God may quicken him if He wants. The chances of Randy getting to Heaven aren't good. "Randy is a great guy?" Remember that in God's eyes we are all worthless sinners. Hopefully, he can repent and believe in Jesus.

Posted by: bob at June 30, 2008 2:55 AM

Bob,

You are right--wish I would have worded that differently.

Thanks...

A fellow "worthless-sinner"- THAT HAS BEEN SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD!--

Lisa


Posted by: Lisa at July 1, 2008 12:31 AM

God has a special list of 10 things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these things he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time.

... But he loves you.

Let's keep our religious beliefs out of this conversation, why don't we?

Posted by: Raymond G. at July 1, 2008 10:11 PM

Raymond,

I won't let your remarks slide. God is Holy and so He can't allow sinners in His Heaven. Fortunately, God loves us more than you know in sending His Son to die for us on the cross. There is hope for you, Raymond, through faith in Jesus Christ and in His blood which washes away your sins.

Posted by: bob at July 3, 2008 4:00 PM

I'm sorry, I disagree. I think we should not leave religious beliefs out of the conversation. This might be Randy's only chance to hear the TRUTH. We are talking about a dying man here.......and where he will spend his eternity.

ps.........we've all broken the 10 commandments. That is why Jesus had to die on the cross for our sins so we can live with Him forever in Heaven.

Posted by: Michelle at July 3, 2008 7:54 PM

Thanks Raymond....

I agree. One should not presume to know another's spiritual health. If what he says is what is in his heart, mind and soul, then I think he will be ok once he has left this earthly plane.

Posted by: Lisa G at July 9, 2008 10:13 AM

Hello, This is my fist time visiting this site. I am looking to see if anyone knows how Randy is doing?
This man has been a wonderful example for me personally. I have a sibling who has Renal Cell Carcinaoma.. She too, can not be cured and 46 year old.
I am curious how, if put in the same sistuation if any of you with the negitive press that you are giving him would handle his situation with such Grace and dignity! Quite frankly its discusting! Until you walk a mile in someone shoes.......
" Judge And you shall be Judge"
This man has had the fight of his life, knowing that he only has a short period on this earth left. I commend his bravery, and taking a negitive and putting into a positve. There is no book on how to handle or deal with death& dying at such a young age and to know there will be volumes of life experinces that he will miss. His children, Wife,Siblings, Etc.
My sister's life has only just begun @ 46 and it is very painful for a family to watch and to have no control.
I saw Randy on Oprah last year, it was the most emotional, raw, breath taking episodes I had ever seen. I felt like I wanted to share it with everyone I knew. Not knowing this would hit so close to home a year later.
Please keed faith out of this..... He has done more Good...... Then Harm!
God is ALL Loving.....
God Bless Randy and his Family....

Annie


Posted by: Annie at July 13, 2008 12:37 PM

Annie,
Tell your sibling to learn the gospel message that Jesus saves.

Posted by: bob at July 17, 2008 3:26 AM

I knew this would happen. Okay, here we go....

I have a 9 year old son. There are rules he has to live by, which we have set down, and which we think are fairly important. But I love him despite the many times he breaks those rules, because boys have instincts, and because my love is unconditional. In fact, unconditional is the only kind of love there is. I certainly couldn't imagine condemning him to a life of anguish for any host of transgressions he chooses to commit, for he is my flesh and my blood, and I love him so much I would die and suffer in his place rather than see any harm come to him.

The god you pray to will cast you into the flames for all eternity because you didn't repent for an act that an instinct guided you towards, or simply because you looked around, thought about it for a moment, and decided that despite your best intentions you just couldn't force yourself to believe what others have been telling you. And it's not just enough that you can't be accepted into heaven because of your sins, you have to burn in hell for all eternity for it. There is no third alternative, say, a place devoid of God and his worshippers but free of the endless torture that anyone who professes to love me would spare me, even if he couldn't allow me in his house. Nice little deity you have there.

But that wasn't even my point, anyway. Discussions on religion are bad ideas, and we can play verbal tennis all day with the guarantee that neither one of us will ever budge from their viewpoint. I won't go there with you. My point was simply that I get a little irritated by you religious types can't seem to complete a conversation without vociferously celebrating this deluded belief that you have a monopoly on the absolute truth.

So now that everyone knows everyone else's opinion on religion and God and the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus, how about we just give the whole thing a rest, and stick to the matter at hand?

For those of you who may have forgotten, I believe that was Randy Pausch.

Posted by: Raymond G. at July 17, 2008 5:20 PM

We are not judging him. And we don't get to go to Heaven just because we are 'nice' or 'kind' or say good things. If that was the case, Jesus would not have had to die on the cross for our sins.

The Bible says the only way to heaven is to believe in God. Believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and ask for forgiveness.

I do not know if Randy knows Christ. It is my prayer that he does........and then he will spend eternity in a much better place than this earth.

Blessings -
Michelle


Posted by: Michelle at July 17, 2008 7:13 PM

I just read the update on Randy's website and unfortunately it's not good news. The cancer has progressed and he's now too sick to post updates. A friend posted the update and mentioned he's now enrolled in hospice.

It breaks my heart for him and his family. I know he mentioned waiting to tell the children until the time when he was visibly ill. I assume that's either already happened or will happen soon. How do you tell your children you are going to die soon? Seeing that pain on your children's faces must be worse than the illness itself. I can only hope their family finds some comfort in knowing there are so many people in this world who are keeping them in their thoughts and prayers.

I wish Randy and his family peace and love. Their story has touched me and Randy's lessons will forever be a part of me and my life. Thank you for this gift.

Posted by: Bina at July 25, 2008 12:43 AM

According to Wikipedia, De Selby is the name of a fictitious philosopher and scientist invented by Irish author Flann O'Brien and later by by American author R.A. Wilson. This character was the most brilliant of lights, cast into the darkness of the world to rid it of humanity through the perfection of a doomsday machine. On the bright side, he was responsible for many brilliant and useful theories such as the myth of night, which is actually black air, later modified into black light, which is heavier than light and travels faster than light. De Selby also stressed that death was a myth, possibly a symptom of breathing black air.

Looks like he's back!

Posted by: Ambystoma at July 25, 2008 8:57 AM

Posted by: Ken at July 25, 2008 10:19 AM

Shame on all those who said Randy Pausch ws "making it all up".

Posted by: Alison at July 25, 2008 11:59 AM

Looks like de Selby was wrong----7/25/08

Posted by: bob at July 25, 2008 4:45 PM

He has died. God Bless him.

Posted by: fan at July 25, 2008 6:29 PM

The problem with the internet is that smart people and stupid people have equal airtime. Stupid people will continue talking and debating long after smart people let it go so stupid people tend to be heard because they yell louder and longer.

You should be ashamed. Randy is dead so I guess he has proved to you morons and know-it-alls that he was in fact telling the truth. Now what. You will come up with some other shit like, it wasn't from cancer now.

The internet is a wonderful, powerful tool when used in the right manner but can be hurtful...even deadly when in the wrong hands....Just like a 4-inch spike heel....

Get a life...

Posted by: NOYB at July 25, 2008 6:54 PM

Very sad to have the world lose such a man. I guess he wasn't deceiving anyone.

Posted by: Judy at July 25, 2008 7:01 PM

Very sad to have the world lose such a man. I guess he wasn't deceiving anyone.

Posted by: Judy at July 25, 2008 7:01 PM

RIP, Randy. You will be missed.

Regards to your family and friends during this time.

Posted by: Carol at July 26, 2008 8:32 AM

I would like to post an apology to this blog.
When I heard on the news yesterday that Professor Pausch died I was not just shocked; I was floored. Before hearing that he had passed away my brain simply could not believe that he was actually dying. So many people told me that he was dying and that his story was true but I just could not believe it. Most of my life cancer has been in my family. None of my family members with a terminal diagnosis looked like Professor Pausch did when he gave his last lecture. Because of the way he looked, and the book deal that followed his speech, I felt certain that his story was another example of someone exploiting something for money. Because of the pain that cancer has caused in my family it disturbed me to think that his story was not real and that he got a book deal out of it. And if any other blogger disagreed with my comments, I would say that they were stupid for not being able to see what I thought I could see. I now realize that I am the most cynical, bitter, and stupid person that I know. Professor Randy Pausch was a far better man and a better human being than I will ever be.
I deserve any of things that people may now decide to post about me. I will not object to any of it because I assure you that right now I’m saying a lot of those same things to myself. In my stupid mind I was 100% certain that Professor Pausch would not die for many years. That shows how stupid I am. I am a very stupid person. The news of his death yesterday has me literally feeling physically ill. Before his death I felt so certain that I was right about the things I previously wrote but I now know that everything I have written about Professor Pausch was wrong and I am sorry for writing those things.

Posted by: de Selby at July 26, 2008 10:16 AM

de Selby and some of the other hateful (& loony) conspiracy theorists here ought to feel ashamed and contrite for writing such cynical idiocies on this board about Randy - now that he has died.

Shame on you....and G-d bless Randy and all the good people of this great bog world.

Derek Wong - graduate student

Posted by: derek wong at July 27, 2008 12:46 PM

By now I am sure you have all read the news. Randy died July the 25th at his home in Virginia. During the last months of his lifetime he was able to enjoy many wonderful moments with his family, touch the hearts of millions of people around the world, and raise awareness of the horrors of pancreatic cancer and encourage congress to increase the funding in hopes to find a cure for this dreadful disease. He didn't have to do any of this. He could have just sat back and died in silence but he used his last days in a productive way. I applaud his courage. I grieve for his family. Rest in peace Randy Pausch. I will continue to keep your family in my prayers.

Jenny Ross

Posted by: jrossteach at July 27, 2008 1:22 PM

All,

The man is gone. Really. He had pancreatic cancer. Really. He did NOT live to see the anniversary of his speech. Really.

Now, the people who have gutters for mouths like de selby and Roger and others, I would like them all to come here and eat their shoes. I would listen to their opinion any day. I respect both sides of the coin. But the thing I could not tolerate is their wilful and vicious slander of a normal human being, who was Dr. Randy Pausch.

I do not know if anyone will come and read this blog. But still I want it registered here that those unwarranted remarks and predictions above were indeed proved wrong.

If those people have an iota of humanity left in them, they will come over here and apologize to Randy, may be not for the negativity that they tried to spread (some of the points might indeed be true, and I seriously don't care. I am not here to prove that Randy was the personification of the perfect man), but surely for the venom that they so gleefully spit over these pages.

Dr. Randy Pausch - Your speech did make an impact to me. It was showmanship personified (as Dr. Andy Van Dam himself pointed out. We do not need superbrainers like de selby and Roger to point that out). But the speech works. Hell, I am satisfied with just the head fake that the nicely drafted lecture gave me after listening to it. And it was supposed to be a lecture for god's sake! Not his confession booth.

RIP Randy. You will be missed. Sorely.

- Shankar.

Posted by: Shankar at July 27, 2008 2:22 PM

Hey, buy my book dedicated to Randy. He was a good friend of mine and he'd want you to keep doing great things!

Posted by: Herb Gilliland at July 28, 2008 1:37 AM

Original post by Happy Heart October 24, 2007

Quote posted by Anton November 4, 2007

>> I would think that Mr. Pausch has more important things to concern himself with at this point, than to worry about whether he rubbed one person the wrong way. If, in the past, he has offended anyone for any reason, I'm certain that the matters, if any, have long since been resolved.> Anton

You're right, it's no one's place or right to judge another person, as I addressed in my original post as well.

Not that any of this matters at this point, as I just heard yesterday that Proffessor Randy Pausch passed away on July 25, 2008 from pancriatic cancer. So, it's a moot point now. I just felt the need to clarify, so that my comments wouldn't be taken out of context.

As for Randy Pausch, may he rest in peace, knowing that he had a positive effect in the lives of many of the people that he came in contact with over his lifetime. & may his legacy forever live on.

Posted by: Happy Heart at July 29, 2008 4:51 PM

Raymond,

You don't believe the bible is the word of God. Too bad. Our deity died a torturous death to pay for your sins. If you don't believe, then you will die in your sins. What you fail to understand is that you have been blinded by Satan.

Randy Pausch died in his sins because he was a member of a Unitarian Universalist church which denies the deity of Christ.

Posted by: bob at July 30, 2008 6:30 PM

It was very heartening to see de selby come and comment here on the sad demise of Dr. Pausch. Humanity prevails.

Posted by: Shankar at August 1, 2008 12:47 AM

Rest in peace Randy. God Bless you and may your family have the strength and courage that you displayed while here and continue your legacy of making this world a better place.

Posted by: Lisa at August 4, 2008 12:53 PM

Bob

Oh nevermind....you can't argue politics and religion...I'm sitting here trying to put into words why so many of religions dogmas just make no common sense...but I'll just say I'm at peace within and I don't believe the Bible is the literal word of God.

Posted by: Lisa at August 5, 2008 12:06 PM

oh bob...the arrogance. And the cold, cold way in which you choose to express your faith. A man dies, a good man, a scholar, an activist, an inspiration to millions, and all you can flippantly say is, too bad he died in sin and will burn in hell. Signed: bob. How devoid of holiness and caring your few whimsical words reveal you to be.

I just love the way you address not one word of anything I said, but rather just regurgitate the same old things you've been saying for years. Died for your sins, blinded by Satan, blah blah. Actually, there was no blah blah, because there was nothing more to your argument than that. Forgive me if I remain unswayed despite the craftsmanship of your response.

What you fail to recognize is that all beliefs to which man subscribes are subject to opinion. Even God. Even your God. What you and your kind see as a matter of absolute truth, many others see as a matter of conjecture, based on reason, personality, experience and myriad other factors. You would deny me my beliefs based on these things, if you could. You would throw a book in front of me and say: "Here, believe this. Or else." If I were to ask why, you would reply simply: "Because it is so."

Well, bob, I'm sorry but that ain't enough for me. Nor is it enough for about 4 billion other people alive on the planet today. But you wouldn't care about that, since I suppose they're all condemned to hell also. You see, I understand and accept that not everyone has the same belief system I do. But I don't tell them they need to attune their attitudes to mine. Tell me again which one of us has been blinded?

Believe what you want - I won't stand in your path. But don't sit there and tell me what I should and shouldn't believe. You're not that smart, your cause is not that just, and you don't have the right or the invitation to tell me what I believe is wrong because you believe something different.

Posted by: Raymond G. at August 6, 2008 5:16 PM

Now on to the topic at hand, the legacy of Randy Pausch. Since he left us, I've been reflecting on his lessons. I find myself quoting him to others and I've certainly started looking at the relationships in my life differently. I try to appreciate the simple things that I usually took for granted. I want to enjoy my family more and live in the moment with them. My three children are growing up so fast, so I want to make sure my eyes are wide open so I don't miss a thing. I will be visiting my father, who I haven't seen for 14 years, in the next week. He is certainly one of my most challenging brick walls, but I haven't given up and now we have a chance for a real relationship.

There are so many more things that I see clearer and want to do with my life. I want to bring this energy to my husband and children and to everyone I know. "What A Wonderful World" it would be if everyone could adopt this positive energy. One man, Randy Pausch, has inspired millions of people to live a better life. If every one of those people could inspire just one more person just think of ripple effect.

So my question to you...how has Randy's message inspired you? What has changed in your life because of one man's last lecture?

I'm really looking forward to hearing from everyone.

Posted by: Bina at August 6, 2008 11:59 PM

Hi Raymond.......I see where you are coming from. We are all entitled to believe what we want. I would invite you to research it further before you say we are wrong.

The only way your eyes can be opened is if you look and search for the answers. You will find out about God someday -- and you will find that He did indeed die for your sins. I just hope you don't find out too late.

So, I encourage you in whatever you do, to seek out the Truth. I would hate to see someone as nice as yourself end up in Hell because you were decieved. I only tell you this because I care. I know that it may seem that we are narrow minded......but that is because we are. We choose not to believe what the 4 billion people are saying, and believe what God says.

It is not us that are telling you to 'believe this'......it is God telling you. No one can force you to believe anything. That choice will be up to you. God gave you the free will to choose Him. You can deny God if you wish. (I have to say it still amazes me that people would want to deny Christ.....It is hard for me to understand that)

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only son, that whoever believes in Him shall not die, but have everlasting life.

Blessings........Michelle

Posted by: Michelle at August 9, 2008 5:37 PM

Hi Raymond,

I appreciate your message and believe religion is not a part of this message board. Unfortunately, the folks who continue to bring it up and attempt to hammer their rhetoric and Bible quote down our throats don't understand your point. It's frustrating both on this message board as well as in "real life." We're always going to run into people who refuse to hear what we say unless it agrees with their opinions. I have a couple of family members who suffer from this type of "deafness", and there doesn't seem to be any way to talk to them about it. So we choose not to talk about it in order to keep the peace. I don't know if that's the best answer or not, but for now, it works.

I'd like to also adopt that view here and just not discuss religion. Don't worry about who's going to Hell and who's been saved. This is a personal thing for all of us. If what you believe brings you peace in your life, then no one has the right to harrass you and tell you you're going to hell.

Like Randy said, do the right thing and the karma will take care of the rest.

Posted by: Bina at August 13, 2008 10:52 AM

Randy Pausch deserves better than to have a discussion dedicated to his memory hijacked by the likes of me with my rants on theology. So, Michelle, I will say this to you, and then let the matter rest.

You are, in my eyes, the true representation of all that is good in human nature, and in whatever faith you choose to believe. Bless you for your kind words, and for the love you hold in your heart for strangers like myself, even those who disagree with you.

I apologize if it seemed as though I was telling you you were wrong. That goes against the entire spirit of what I was trying to say. My point was that, simply, we all have our beliefs. Some of us may be right, some of us may be wrong, or perhaps, just perhaps, all of us might be wrong in varying degrees. I would never presume to tell you what you should or shouldn't believe, and I would never presume to possess sole ownership of the absolute truth. It concerns me somewhat that the side which you represent is so seldom capable of considering that same mindset.

You are so certain in your belief, and for that I applaud and respect you. I even love you for it, because I have seen into your heart through the words you have written, and you deserve love. But you need to understand that not everyone who disbelieves does so by choice. You state that I can deny God if I wish. But that's not the way it works; I don't wish to believe or disbelieve anything. My beliefs come from taking all the evidence and viewpoints presented to me, and from those I come to a conclusion based on my own common sense. Indeed, I know much more about the Bible and scriptures than you may realize - I've studied the topic for quite some time, and have discussed this issue with several believers, agnostics and atheists alike. Now, your common sense may be different from mine, and may so lead you to a different conclusion, but that doesn't make either of us any more right or wrong than the other. You couldn't possibly conceive of a reality that doesn't include God. I couldn't possibly conceive of a reality that does. I may be wrong. You may be wrong. I don't think I am, and you're sure you're not.

Sure, I could lie to myself, that would certainly be the safe route to take. But deep down that wouldn't make me a believer. I can't help the fact that I believe what I believe, or don't believe. For I haven't rejected Him; I have simply seen all sides of the equation, and can see no other rational conclusion.

Dear Michelle, thank you again for your kind words. The best I can do is strive to embrace the goodness of your soul, if not what it believes.

Raymond..

Posted by: Raymond G. at August 16, 2008 1:57 AM

Hi Raymond......I just want you to know that what you wrote really touched me. It was a blessing for me to read this morning.

I know that you don't believe in God, but I want you to know that I will pray for you. I'm glad that you haven't rejected Christ.....and that you've been searching for answers. I have another very close friend who also is having troubles believing in Christ. It is difficult for me, because I really want to help him see -- but he is really looking for more 'black and white' truth. I think if God was going to give us 'proof' then there would be no need for 'faith'.

Anyway, not to give you all that information, but it really was nice to read what you wrote. It also gave me insight to how my friend may be feeling.

I just want to say, don't give up yet. Maybe God is out there and He's going to show you. Sometimes God does things in His own time, and not ours.

Thank you so much again for your kind words. I will be praying for you these next few weeks..... And I am really happy to have met you here.


Posted by: Michelle at August 17, 2008 1:50 PM

I was in Randy's graduating class in computer science at Brown. I haven't seen him since 1982, and hadn't heard anything about him until just before the "last lecture". We exchanged a few emails since then, for which I'm grateful.

I won't eulogize him here (or insult him either), because there's nothing I could say that would add to that discussion, but I did want to say a couple of things about the comments posted here.

First, my hat is off to de Selby for his posted retraction and apology. Knowing what he faced in his own family makes his earlier attitude a bit more understandable; the addition of his genuine remorse makes it (to me, at least) forgivable. We all say wrong and stupid things sometimes (ok, some of us more than others...); what differentiates us is how quickly and sincerely we recognize and admit that and start to make amends. Given all that's been said above, maybe he and Randy (and... um... I) have that in common - we can act like jerks sometimes, and not live up to our own ideals, but we know that and try to make up for it as best we can.

Which brings me to Roger. Well, Roger was right in a literal sense. Randy was not dead six months after the lecture. He lasted ten. I should also note that Randy never actually said that he had six months to live, but that isn't really the issue here. The issue is that I see nothing here from Roger after January of this year. Has Roger forgotten about this blog and what he wrote here? Or does he remember, but lacks the humanity/maturity/cajones to stand up and be accountable as de Selby has done? Perhaps Roger has a good excuse, some sort of personal crisis that required his attention and rightly took priority over this little corner of blogspace; but it's been two months now, and he couldn't find the ten minutes it would take?

Or maybe Mr. "I have 45 years left" was actually gracious enough to die first.

Nah, that's too much to hope for.

Posted by: A classmate of Randy's at October 3, 2008 4:08 PM

No malice against the dead but this was an exercise in self promotion. everything from showing off how fit he was during the lecture doing push-ups, to the programs he started..it was all an exercise in "look at me and how amazing I am".. and it was not primarily for his kids it was primarily for everyone else to be taught how amazing he was and secondarily to show his children how amazing he was. Again nothing against the man and he undoubtedly contributed but the last lecture was just himself subtlety and with slight of hand making sure we know it and believe how great he was From this perspective at least the man was brilliant.

Posted by: tell it like it is at November 5, 2008 5:20 PM

Right, the lecture was pure, self-agrandizing braggadocio, and all the thousands of people who found it inspiring and learned important lessons from it are simply delusional. Thank you so much for pointing this out. I feel as if a burden has been lifted.

Yes, Randy was confident to the point of cockiness sometimes, but he also accomplished a lot, loved life, and more importantly, enjoyed helping others do the same. I didn't get "look how amazing I am" from the lecture as much as I got "look how amazing life can be, here's how I do it, you can do it too". A lecture embodying the former message wouldn't have been so popular (except possibly as ironic entertainment, a la William Hung) or so widely quoted, so clearly there was something else going on, something beyond "himself subtlety" as you put it.

I'm sure you've done a lot of great things in your own life and have much to offer in the way of advice. I therefore look forward to your own last lecture. (Really, I do. No malice.)


Posted by: A classmate of Randy's at November 13, 2008 9:07 AM

I agree that it was pure self promotion and showing off. There really is no other way to interpret it. It wasn't the push-ups or the offering stuffed animals as souvenirs to his own life but he really showed no class in singing his own praises like that. I really just feel bad for his kids to have to watch their dad even in his last year of life putting on a show for himself. Really really sad.

Posted by: CDub at November 19, 2008 9:40 PM

116 row a seat 20

Posted by: RearAxiorroke at May 27, 2011 12:48 PM

Varies

Posted by: acrornnab at July 28, 2012 2:27 AM

Pausch was an arrogant douchebag, Karma did him in!

Posted by: PAYBACK at September 2, 2012 1:37 AM

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