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December 5, 2007

take wood? we smash car

fairly disturbing footage from iraq ::


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Assholes didn't even save the wood.
Support our troops?

Posted by: Mike Webster at December 5, 2007 11:19 AM

Jesus, what idiots.

Posted by: Andrew at December 5, 2007 11:37 AM

this video was shot in mid 2003. it was shortly after the invasion. i first saw it in dec 2003 when i was being prepared to go to iraq. the army showed it to us as an example of what not to do. to show it with no context is disingenuous.

having served in iraq, i believe that we should not have gone; but we should stay until we've established civility and commerce. it's only fair and we can succeed.

Posted by: mikeray at December 5, 2007 11:59 AM

So, who wants to move to Canada with me?

Posted by: Caroline at December 5, 2007 12:56 PM

Wow. I'm sure glad the U.S Army Tank Division doesn't patrol my area. My neighbors and I like to take wood from housing developments and build our own personal structures (dog houses, sheds, etc.)

I guess I can just hope along with all my other fellow americans that that poor iraqi taxi driver gets to be on Extreme Taxi Makeover, or Pimp my tank-crushed ride.

expensive war equipment + unfortunate petty theives = Jobless taxi drivers.

Yikes

Posted by: Wood Thief at December 5, 2007 1:03 PM

War. Huh. What is it good for?

Say it again.

Posted by: jeano at December 5, 2007 6:47 PM

Does anyone know the overall context of the first video in this stupid Iraq crap YouTube series...?
http://blogaboutablogaboutablogabout.blogspot.com/2007/12/us-troops-in-iraq-shooting-dogs-and.html

Posted by: Akubi at December 5, 2007 11:48 PM


That is part of an episode of Frontline from Oct 2003 which you can watch online

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/

Posted by: Steve Rhodes at December 5, 2007 11:58 PM

Yeah, this was a really idiotic move, sort of typical of our troops when they first arrived in Iraq. too much of this stuff happened. Things have improved regarding our treatment of the Iraqis, but I'm sure they still remember incidents like this.

I wonder who came up with the idea that this was appropriate punishment? I'm thinking it's these guys that came up with the idea themselves. I'm pretty sure they caught a raft of *&#*@$ from their CO over it, too.

"Hearts and minds" indeed.

Posted by: sheldonc at December 6, 2007 1:33 AM


That is part of an episode of Frontline from Oct 2003 which you can watch online

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/

Posted by: Steve Rhodes at December 6, 2007 1:54 AM

Typing the first three words of the narrative into google and I found this: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/view/

Was effortless and took little imagination. Less time than playing video cop on the net. BTW, you can find this clip on at least 50 blogs or web sites, some that cheer the US soldiers on for putting these war torn Iraqis in their place. And it doesn't take a genius to realize regardless of the time line what these soldiers did was WRONG.

But mikeray, clue the public in, were these soldiers punished? Names, Dates, Dishonors: URL please?
Is there a standing policy you were presented with regarding this situation? IOW, to complain about the clip and provide no context is disingenuous. Can't even google that.

As for staying the course – if you are willing to pay at least 90% of your salary for the rest of your life or better yet, take the place of the next US soldier that dies in Iraq for this boondoggle of a quagmire then by all means stay the course, stay the course.

One more thing, ebay is littered with stolen property US solders took from Iraq, worth a lot more than some scarps of wood - If you want to be a complaint cop for internet justice there's a good place to start.

Posted by: nader at December 6, 2007 1:58 AM

I have been severely opposed to the war(s) since the moment that the planes hit the towers and before, but I concur with mikeray. If this is a video taken 3 years ago and used by the military to as educational content to avoid repeating this kind of incident, then it should be presented in the appropriate light.

Is there any way to confirm the origin of this video?

Posted by: ramsey at December 6, 2007 2:47 AM

mikeray, thanks for the thoughtful comments. These sort of things of course need to be stopped. Anyone know what happened to these soldiers? Court-martial?

Posted by: Grant Hutchins at December 6, 2007 3:05 AM

This is why you don't give little I.Q.s big toys.

Canada doesn't sound too bad, Caroline... socialized medical and not being associated with this shit... I'm almost in. I'm not sure about the 'ehs' and the flopping heads and fart jokes as is accurately portrayed on the documentary series 'South Park'. But the beer is great.

[I hate tough decisions]

Posted by: nickreyes at December 6, 2007 4:08 AM

To post this video as "news" seems a little duplicitous but hey, never a better time than the present to jump on the bash the troops bandwagon...

I think that history will remember the current Iraqi conflict very differently than those with political agendas like to think...

Posted by: Paul Benjamin at December 6, 2007 4:39 AM

There has been an increasingly large number of people on web sites claiming to shell out advice under the story that they were in the armed forced and in Iraq during or after the invasion.

I don't want to discredit those who actually were in Iraq, but there is no way all those people who claim to be actually are.

It is a statement that infers any questioning of what they say is some how unethical or immoral. What they say doesn't usually change my mind, I just have enough hesitation to just let them be wrong. And I feel that limits discussion and, frankly, leaves those who probably could use a new perspective without.

Posted by: Bob at December 6, 2007 8:21 AM

so thats why they hate americans...
how can one steal wood? who does one steal wood from?
'calling all cars, we got a call from mother nature, some bitches are stealing wood again. oh and bring tanks. over.'
assholes.

Posted by: yashinka at December 7, 2007 6:21 AM

Yashinka, that's got to be the most ludicrous argument I've heard in a very long time. Ultimately, everything we own was made from products of the earth, just processed to different degrees. So if I took all your stuff, by your logic that wouldn't be stealing. Got anything good?

Posted by: homagetogorto at December 10, 2007 7:00 PM

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