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Stephi_B 08-25-2009 06:57 PM

all of your letters :)

Frieda 08-27-2009 03:48 PM


probiotics-- good stuff, or bunch of BLABLABLA?


zero 08-27-2009 04:30 PM

i have no idea but i like when the lady's voice sings ♪mmm..danone♪ - she's been singing that same sing-logo ♪mmm.. danone♪ thing for years & years. surely it must be one of the must successful sing-logos in the whole wide world.

zero 08-27-2009 04:42 PM

ok i googled myself and they're not called sing-logos at all. no it's called sound sound branding - i am so susceptible to sound branding and welcome it!

brightpearl 08-27-2009 08:24 PM

There's some evidence linking the milk-loving ones to obesity
But don't despair...I think some of them will turn out to be good. Probably an individual thing. I'm taking a sort of nutrigenomics this semester and will let you know what I'm told.

MoJoRiSin 08-27-2009 09:02 PM

this is the silliest post EVER!
as far as i know kombucha tea has probiotics
once i used an ounce of the stuff from the store to
try to culture my own (grren&black sweetened) tea
+i added a single kefir grain for good measure
WELL ....i am not sure what it is that i have been
making all this time but it only takes 24 hours and it is
REALLY good and i am fairly certain it is good for me
whether it is kefir tea or kombucha i am
not sure of

xfox 08-28-2009 01:09 AM

fresh is good, in season.

lukkucairi 08-28-2009 03:18 AM

probiotics work

Frieda 08-28-2009 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by brightpearl (Post 414918)
There's some evidence linking the milk-loving ones to obesity
But don't despair...I think some of them will turn out to be good. Probably an individual thing. I'm taking a sort of nutrigenomics this semester and will let you know what I'm told.

i think i can see how that works-- if the bacteria make digestion more efficient and you don't change your eating patterns, you'll absorb more and might grow an ass, or a belly or something. or maybe even broccoli butt, like me.

anyway i'm trying to deflate my bloated belly-- for some weird reason "normal" yogurt with the regular cultures doesnt exist anymore, they always add cream or milk powder or a bifidus strain or other weird bacteria.

lukkucairi 08-28-2009 09:36 AM

I got really sick when I was looking after my mother in the IOM - my digestion got all out of whack from the month of weird food and the constant stress.

Yoghurt doesn't cut it for me. I fixed what ailed me with non-dairy kefir (coconut milk), some over-the-counter probiotic pills, kombucha, and the occasional glass of water with a bit of raw apple cider vinegar in it (the kind that's cloudy with the crud at the bottom - the clear stuff doesn't work).

I can't eat any grains except for rice and corn, and I can't eat refined sugar on anything like a regular basis or I'll bloat up like a blimp. Everyone's body is different and everyone's intestinal flora are different - you just have to play around with diet and probiotic formulas til you find what makes you feel good.

My sister-in-law swears by ThreeLac, but I haven't tried it.

Frieda 08-28-2009 10:20 AM

i've used yogurt once every 3 days for years, and it all went fine until a couple of weeks ago, a mysterious acute spell of coeliac disease turned up with bloating and itchy arms and all that, probably caused by some weird virus or maybe that overripe melon that i ate. i guess i'll never know.

just saw this on a dutch website-- i think i'm going to try it: healthy start kit from Natren, no other stuff, just the bacteria. and i guess i'll have to wait with the bifidus culture until the smaller intestinal issues clear up a bit, or else i'll fvck it up again!

brightpearl 08-28-2009 01:53 PM

They figured out a couple of years ago that there are often intracellular changes after an intestinal illness that may take some time to reverse themselves. Those lining cells are so delicate.
Lulu is right that there's no telling what will work for you...I'm glad you are trying trial and error.

The nice thing about probiotic treatments in terms of obesity risk is that they have little to no hope of changing your natural flora and fauna over the long haul. When you stop taking them, your body's preferred profile will return. So, if whatever you take does make your calorie extraction more efficient (your logic is correct :D ), it will stop when you stop taking it.

You might also look into prebiotics, which are substances that deliver support for the beasties rather than deliver the beasties themselves.

Your mentioning the species names made me laugh...most of those printed on yogurt containers and such are totally bogus nonscientific claptrap. They just don't want to tell you that they've put something with the species name faecalis in it, so they make up regularis or whatever.

Frieda 08-28-2009 02:18 PM

^oh are they? i don't eat anything from the dairy department except bulgarian yogurt and those are pretty obvious.. thankfully i read up before i buy :)

that reminds me of something weird i came across when i was reading-- some people consider e.coli a useful probiotic, i usually try to avoid it by cooking meat properly. i wonder what that's good for??

brightpearl 08-28-2009 03:24 PM

oh, now you've gone and brought up stuff I can't help going on about...
I'm moving the rest of the discussion to the bowel movement thread to avoid taking over the qotd


zero 08-28-2009 03:57 PM


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