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12"razormix 10-12-2007 03:30 PM

i wanted him to be HAPPY! :(

zero 10-12-2007 03:38 PM

you did make him happy.. in a manner of speaking. see! he's looking down at you now from hamsterland in the sky, smiling happily. despite his little crumpled spine and grotesquely bulging eyeballs.






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12"razormix 10-12-2007 03:41 PM

( i had 3 tonys in a row.. 2 more after tony no. 1! )

zero 10-12-2007 04:13 PM

great!


(nobody ask her how tony2 and tony3 met their maker)

12"razormix 10-12-2007 04:26 PM

tony no. 2 killed himself whilst trying to escape from his cage.

after tony no. 3 died ( a very wholesome natural death ), my parents bought a guinea pig for me.

i named it tony.

zero 10-12-2007 04:34 PM

quite right - tony's the best name for any kind of rodent - why change it?




guess what his name is - EXACTLY - it's tony

T.I.P. 10-12-2007 04:48 PM

^big nosed rodent, that one

zero 10-12-2007 04:50 PM

ok then "tony big-nose"

craig johnston 10-12-2007 04:50 PM

oooh, do you remember that thread where someone tortured their pet to death?

can the next question be about something other than pets please?

zero 10-12-2007 04:52 PM

no

craig johnston 10-12-2007 04:53 PM

why not?

T.I.P. 10-12-2007 04:54 PM

^ that would make a good question of the day

"why not ?"

T.I.P. 10-12-2007 04:57 PM

answer of the day:

--> because a toothless hag told me it was a bad idea

craig johnston 10-12-2007 05:02 PM

^^
don't talk about erzo like that!

:eek:

craig johnston 10-13-2007 07:37 AM

new question:

is your online personality a true reflection of your real self?

T.I.P. 10-13-2007 07:48 AM

how could it not be ?

eta:
What i mean to say by that is, even if you are playing a role and giving yourself an online "persona", the sock puppet that you hold out in front of everyone else is still a reflection of yourself. It's simply impossible to be the observer and the observed at the same time, so even when you think you are cleverly dissimulating your "true" personality, bits and pieces of it are seeping through.

madasacutsnake 10-13-2007 09:02 AM

I don't know. I defer to those who know me irl.

topcat 10-13-2007 11:22 AM

no mad is really meanier irl

Hyakujo's Fox 10-13-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madasacutsnake (Post 364853)
I don't know. I defer to those who know me irl.

I hope that avatar's not misleading.

Hyakujo's Fox 10-13-2007 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig johnston (Post 364848)
is your online personality a true reflection of your real self?

it's more a imperfect reflection of part of my illusory self, but I post in good faith.

trisherina 10-13-2007 11:52 AM

Irl snake is more girlish than she appears. I wish I had a better word but it's close.

In general, I agree with T.I.P. My observation is that people who (seemingly) try to hide or minimize aspects of themselves end up more transparent than they probably would ever want to know.

craig johnston 10-13-2007 12:57 PM

it's not a question of trying. i just am different to craig johnston.
let's face it, no one could be that chipper! i never consciously set
out to create an online personality, it just happened, and i was
wondering if others had had the same experience.

Frieda 10-13-2007 01:03 PM

well, of course there's stuff i won't talk about here (like work) and i don't go around using my real name.. but that's mostly because i don't want any next employers read about my hasselhoff fetish.

i do respond here like i would irl. i have no clue on how to pretend i'm someone else. i'm good at acting whenever there's a script and character description to follow, but freestyle sockpuppeting is not my thing.

maybe rob can enlighten you guys on how i am irl.. we met up a couple of years ago.

zero 10-13-2007 01:05 PM

when people meet me for the first time they'll often remark upon my great sense of humour, come-to-bed eyes and smouldering looks. then they'll say, for example: "omg zero - yours eyebrows!! you, zero, are very similar in appearance to academy award-winning puerto rican actor and film producer benicio del toro." yeh, admittedly i tend to play that side of me down when i'm online, so's to avoid a big fuss.

Frieda 10-13-2007 01:13 PM

so, am i the only one being myself here? :confused:

how does anyone "develop" an online personality, how does this work?

T.I.P. 10-13-2007 01:55 PM

No, and as i said i think most people here are also being themselves, whether consciously or not. If I felt compelled to change my personality to fit in here, i would probably think better of it and leave.

I'll add that online environments (like Second Life, for instance) can allow people to live in alternate realities and escape the drudgery of their everyday lives. They can be rich, beautiful and the life of the party online, when in reality they are rather ordinary. Those environments are fine as long as they remain a game - a place for testing real world things, like opening a business or whatever else you would need a testing ground for before taking it to the real world.

The danger is that some people become attached to their online persona, and try to escape the disappointments of real by living permanently in their fantasm. They stop trying to do cool stuff in real life because they can't control outcomes in real life the way they can online.

I guess that kind of escapism is possible, to some extent, on a bulletin board.

ok now my message is way too long. ack.

Anna 10-13-2007 02:12 PM

individual quotes not working for me and it's only my opinion.

Quote:

it's not a question of trying. i just am different to craig johnston. let's face it, no one could be that chipper! i never consciously set out to create an online personality, it just happened, and i was wondering if others had had the same experience
I'll never know the real you on line because I'm missing a big part of you, your physical presence. It's a fine line. Most people will say things on line they would never say irl to a stranger. Real life is far more intense and complex. Being online is like being a pleasant or an angry tourist, either way eventually you have to go home.

Quote:

well, of course there's stuff i won't talk about here (like work) and i don't go around using my real name..
smart and practical in today's world, a necessity unless it's your job or you're an independently wealthy eccentric. People have lost their positions because of their online personality.

Quote:

when people meet me for the first time they'll often remark upon my great sense of humour, come-to-bed eyes and smouldering looks. then they'll say, for example: "omg zero - yours eyebrows!! you, zero, are very similar in appearance to academy award-winning puerto rican actor and film producer benicio del toro." yeh, admittedly i tend to play that side of me down when i'm online, so's to avoid a big fuss.
I believe every word.


Quote:

so, am i the only one being myself here? how does anyone "develop" an online personality, how does this work?
Extreme online personalities are hit and run, but an average online personality will typically keep their personal information isolated. Regardless, you're always giving up a little bit of your privacy and perhaps a tiny piece of your soul because the internets never forgets and administration has your ip ;)

Anna 10-13-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.I.P. (Post 364873)
No, and as i said i think most people here are also being themselves, whether consciously or not. If I felt compelled to change my personality to fit in here, i would probably think better of it and leave.

but we act in different ways in different places, even in real life, no?

Quote:

I'll add that online environments (like Second Life, for instance) can allow people to live in alternate realities and escape the drudgery of their everyday lives. They can be rich, beautiful and the life of the party online, when in reality they are rather ordinary. Those environments are fine as long as they remain a game - a place for testing real world things, like opening a business or whatever else you would need a testing ground for before taking it to the real world.

The danger is that some people become attached to their online persona, and try to escape the disappointments of real by living permanently in their fantasm. They stop trying to do cool stuff in real life because they can't control outcomes in real life the way they can online.

I guess that kind of escapism is possible, to some extent, on a bulletin board.
If you have that bent in your personality you'll end up finding a way to escape disappointment regardless, if not online, drugs, drink or therapy.

Quote:

ok now my message is way too long. ack.
nah, on line social networking is a very compelling and modern topic, each year it's having a greater and greater impact on our lives. Most people in my day to day have never even heard of you tube. I am now a corrupting force of nature ;)

zero 10-13-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frieda
how does anyone "develop" an online personality, how does this work?


frieda it may be helpful to consider the case of xormiz's online arse:

xormiz has developed her online arse - it isnie a true reflection of her real arse.;)

T.I.P. 10-13-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anna (Post 364877)
I am now a corrupting force of nature ;)

you forgot exquisite

an "exquisite" corrupting force of nature ;)


Don't take it too seriously though, i probably wouldn't have had the guts to say that in real life :p

12"razormix 10-13-2007 03:13 PM

isn't this real life?? :(

12"razormix 10-13-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 364878)
isnie a true reflection of her real arse

is too! i resent that :mad:

zero 10-13-2007 03:29 PM

^must've been developing hers offline arse as well.








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auntie aubrey 10-13-2007 04:59 PM

i would say i'm very similar offline to how i am online with one exception that i think is fairly common. online i'm more aggressive. what i mean is, offline i'm far more likely to be conscious of how my words affect people and consider those consequences before opening my big fat mouth. i'm also more likely to consider how intimately i know someone before opening my big fat mouth. online i'm less likely to consider the consequences and since most interpersonal contact is not intimate, i don't usually consider how well i know someone before responding to something.

actually i don't know if aggressive is the right word, now that i think of it. i'm frank/blunt and say what's on my mind both on and offline. but offline i'm far more likely to weigh consequences and other external factors before doing so.

i also would say my reactions to things are more hyperbolic online just for the entertainment value. i'll overreact positively or negatively in an online capacity because i find emotional outbursts funny in a text-only environment. for example i don't really get "mad" about things offline, but i'll express "madness" online even if i am, in reality, not mad. this is particularly true with other strong emotions like outrage. i'll express it online, even though offline it's not something i would give much thought to. if that makes any sense.

it's like an exaggerated caricature version of personality.

but in general, you're getting pretty much the same auntie all ways 'round.

12"razormix 10-13-2007 05:04 PM

( in real life, i don't carry a bucket on my head )

zero 10-13-2007 05:45 PM

ok maybe not on your head, but i know for a fact that you do carry one

Frieda 10-13-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anna (Post 364874)
Being online is like being a pleasant or an angry tourist, either way eventually you have to go home.

i am home, i don't feel a tourist here.. or on any other bulletin board i frequent.. or when chatting to friends.. etc.. it's real life. we don't call it "real life", but it became real life, as soon as i made friends, discussed my daily stuff, etc.. and why shouldn't it be real life? :)

Odbe 10-13-2007 07:09 PM

I think I have an online persona, but it's not too different from my rl self, or at least I hope not. The biggest difference is that on a message board I can take a long time to type out my post, or even get to the end of a post, delete it and hit the back button. I end up saying more things I regret in real life. That said I still post things I regret.

Also, I don't think anyone can be exactly the same online or offline, because online you can't use body language and expressions. There are emoticons, but they have a very narrow range whereas actual expressions can be very subtle. Face-to-face you can get your message across, then read the other person's reaction and (even unconsciously) alter the way you express yourself until you think they are getting what you're saying. Online you have to do a lot of guesswork as you can't really tell the intended tone of a message, and indeed many flaming matches start because someone reads an angry tone into a calm message.

Anna 10-13-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frieda (Post 364895)
i am home, i don't feel a tourist here.. or on any other bulletin board i frequent.. or when chatting to friends.. etc.. it's real life. we don't call it "real life", but it became real life, as soon as i made friends, discussed my daily stuff, etc.. and why shouldn't it be real life? :)

Well technically real life is what ever is happening to you regardless of the place or platform. But I think the original term irl comes from that fact that there is no physical contact between the people communicating apart from electronic means; practical ideas or fantasy. When I click on my mouse, I am not able to touch your arm while expressing a point or when I type these words I am unable to look into your eyes and speak them. So the tactile audio/visual elements are missing. I'm not saying that strong connections and bonds can’t be formed on line, I recognize that some of the most beautiful and profound moments in historical relationships where through correspondence, but they are different from what society and psychology has regarded as traditional mind and body relationships. I can communicate with you instantly half way round the world in seconds and that's an amazing thing, but it is also limited to the realm of ideas, ebay and pay pal. Forming on line friends and community relationship is pioneering and a whole new science. I believe that for every technological advancement humanity makes something is also lost, but as a realist I also know there's little that can be done to stop change without effort.

brightpearl 10-13-2007 09:43 PM

It's possible that my online persona is a truer reflection of myself than my irl persona with people I don't know really, really well. I'm not sure. I guess both are incomplete.

Like Hfox, I post in good faith.


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