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The Duke 06-03-2007 06:41 PM

Terror Plot at Kennedy Airport
 
This report must be a huge mistake; after all, John Edwards did say there is no terrorist threat: 4 Charged In Plot To Blow Up Jet Fuel At JFK.



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NEW YORK — According to NewsChannel4’s Jonathan Dienst, sources said federal investigators have made arrests in an alleged terror plot on Kennedy Airport.

Four people have been charged. One is in custody in New York.

Sources said the plot involved a plan to blow up a jet-fuel pipeline at JFK setting off a potential massive explosion.

Law enforcement officials said the plot may involve a former airport worker.

A press conference is scheduled for 1 p.m. this afternoon.
What are the odds that at least one of the alleged plotters is not a Presbyterian?


One of the alleged plotters, Abdul Kabir, is a former member of the parliament of Guyana, and was arrested in Trinidad.

And, the media are obsessively asking experts” whether the plotters were connected to Al Qaeda, and again, it appears they were not.

Let’s all just ignore that big green elephant in the middle of the living room, shall we?

More names: Russell Defreitas (aka Mohammed), Abdul Nur, Kareem Ibrihim and Abdul Kadir. , Whaddya Know ! Not one Presbyterian among them ....
There are connections to the radical Islamic group Jamaat al-Muslimeen. News reports about jihad in Trinidad relate to just some of the violent history of this group;
in 1990, they bombed police headquarters, stormed the Trinidad parliament, and took the prime minister and his cabinet hostage in an attempted coup that killed 24 people. And the plotters in that case were eventually pardoned.

More info:


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Sources said a cargo worker at JFK allegedly began to plot attacking the US last July or August. The cargo worker sought help in carrying out a plan and went to an FBI informant, who gathered information about the plot.

The cargo worker is a U.S. citizen with roots in Guyana. Sources said he be [sic] a former government official in Guyana.

Sources said counter-terrorism officials have been following the plot for a little less than one year.

Sources said the plot involved a plan to blow up a BuckEye jet-fuel pipeline at JFK setting off a potential massive explosion. BuckEye provides fuel to all three NYC-area airports.

Sources said the plot involved putting explosives inside the fuel pipeline but realized that “it was not technically feasible.”

A possible connection to wanted Al Qaeda operative Adnan Shukrijumah??:

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FBI agents feared but never confirmed the three men accused of plotting to attack John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York were linked to one of the most wanted al Qaeda leaders, Adnan Shukrijumah, known to have operated out of Guyana and Trinidad.

Officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com that they heard repeated references to “Adnan” during the extensive wiretaps conducted on the suspects’ telephone conversations, including calls to Guyana and Trinidad.

There is a $5 million reward for information on Shukrijumah, who officials consider extremely dangerous because of the years he spent living in the Miami area and his known ties to al Qaeda. Some of the 9/ll hijackers attended a south Florida mosque run by Shukrijumah’s now deceased father.

Here’s a copy of the complaint (PDF).

The Duke 06-04-2007 01:35 PM

Murtha Blames Iraq War for Kennedy Airport Plot
 
I wondered how the crazy kooks were going to spin the Kennedy Airport terror plot; first out of the crazy gate is John Murtha (M-Pennsylvania)*, who blames it on the Iraq war.

John Murtha hard at work for his constituency in the Halls of Congress

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GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, HOST: I want to get back to my first question, but let me pick up on something you said just there. You believe that these homegrown terrorist plots are being inspired by the U.S. work in Iraq right now?

JOHN MURTHA, CONGRESSMAN: Absolutely. George, they were inspired by them all over the world. Our presence in Iraq, our occupation in Iraq, gives these people the inspiration. Now, we didn’t have this problem before, they came from Afghanistan. But, now we even have it in the United States. So, I’m absolutely convinced that this is the kind of thing that inspires these people.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But we did have 9/11 before we went into Iraq.

MURTHA: Yeah, we had 9/11, but that came from Afghanistan. There was no, there was no al Qaeda in Iraq. We don’t even know how many al Qaeda are in Iraq right now. For instance, we think a couple of thousand. They’ll take care of al Qaeda. They’ll get rid of al Qaeda. Our presence is inspiring them to recruit people all over the world. This is the problem we have.
* Moonbat.

Brynn 06-05-2007 09:53 PM

The story did its intended work. We've all stopped thinking about Alberto Gonzales. It also conveniently appeared around the same time as the Democratic debates that boosted Hilary Clinton's poll numbers. If you take a look at the long-range patterns, one might be startled to notice (if one hasn't already) that these things always have a way of conveniently bursting upon the American consciousness just as something is going on that either reflects negatively against the Bush adminstration or positively on something going on across the aisle. Inevitably, the bomb scare in the New York subway, or the "chicken feed scare" or the botched attack on Fort Dix turns out to be based on intelligence that has been sitting around for days, weeks, or sometimes even years. I'm continually astonished at how the public continues to fall for it, as unsubtle as it is.
This time around, I knew as soon as I heard government-controlled Fox News anchors all parroting the same exact talking points that "these latest charges are incredibly specific and hard to dispute!" that once again, something smelled a lot like yet another government-invented crisis.

Don't take my word for it. Just last night, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann did a brilliant report about this very thing, and very meticulously tied eleven separate domestic terrorist "threats" and various alert elevations since 2003 to within days or sometimes even hours of negative press about the White House, or positive Democratic news events. I could see one or two events as coincidental, but not eleven.

This latest may or may not be the same thing. It's really hard to get excited, and I admit, I've hardly listened this time. Reading things here hasn't really filled me in much either, unfortunately. What worries me more is when Republican senators longingly say things like "What we really need is a big event like 9/11 to make people realize how dangerous these people are!" :eek:

The Duke 06-06-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brynn (Post 347237)
The story did its intended work. We've all stopped thinking about Alberto Gonzales. It also conveniently appeared around the same time as the Democratic debates that boosted Hilary Clinton's poll numbers. If you take a look at the long-range patterns, one might be startled to notice (if one hasn't already) that these things always have a way of conveniently bursting upon the American consciousness just as something is going on that either reflects negatively against the Bush adminstration or positively on something going on across the aisle. Inevitably, the bomb scare in the New York subway, or the "chicken feed scare" or the botched attack on Fort Dix turns out to be based on intelligence that has been sitting around for days, weeks, or sometimes even years. I'm continually astonished at how the public continues to fall for it, as unsubtle as it is.
This time around, I knew as soon as I heard government-controlled Fox News anchors all parroting the same exact talking points that "these latest charges are incredibly specific and hard to dispute!" that once again, something smelled a lot like yet another government-invented crisis.

Don't take my word for it. Just last night, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann did a brilliant report about this very thing, and very meticulously tied eleven separate domestic terrorist "threats" and various alert elevations since 2003 to within days or sometimes even hours of negative press about the White House, or positive Democratic news events. I could see one or two events as coincidental, but not eleven.

This latest may or may not be the same thing. It's really hard to get excited, and I admit, I've hardly listened this time. Reading things here hasn't really filled me in much either, unfortunately. What worries me more is when Republican senators longingly say things like "What we really need is a big event like 9/11 to make people realize how dangerous these people are!" :eek:


Well I beg to differ about the Gonazales deal , Why is everyone making such a fuss about some fired US Attorney's anyway ?

When Clinton took Office he cleaned His US Attorney house as well by firing all of them , and no one made a single peep about that .

Maybe the Dems should consider themselves lucky that if this Foiled Terror plot takes Americas attention away from anything , it will be the bad business of their crooked Louisiana Congressman William Jefferson who got caught red handed for Graft and corruption .
But I don't think so ...the JFK terrorists are awaiting indictment and trial now , and so is Jefferson as anyone could guess .

What doesn't suprise me is the fact that Nancy Pelosi is not busy drumming this guy out of office , and the MSM likes of CBS , MSNBC and other majors are quietly sweeping the whole thing under the rug as far as publications go.

No one is beating drums about this guys 16 counts of bribery , maybe he should change his name to Tom Delay , or Scooter Libby ....

Scooter Libby is an interesting model of political jusrisprudence , they sentenced him to 2 years for Lying , How long are they gonna jail Jefferson for stealing then ?


Fox News is government Controlled ? Did someone inform Rupert Murdock about this yet ? :)

The Duke 06-06-2007 01:50 PM

NYT Defends Itself for Burying The JFK Terror Plot Story
 
The New York Times admits that they made a decision to bury the JFK terror plot story; before all the details were even known, they judged that an international Islamic terrorist plot to attack one of America’s largest airports was “lame:”Reader Questions and Answers.





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Q. I live in California and was astounded yesterday to look at my print edition of The Times for the article on the J.F.K. bomb plot and to find it back on page A30!

What has happened with the news judgment of your colleagues? A terrorist plot that could have badly damaged the entire economy of the nation, including those of us who live in the Bay Area, and it’s relegated to the level of bridge club reports. You might wish to suggest to your editors that your readers do not live in a vacuum, that we do have alternative sources for news and they only make The Times look foolish with such ineptitude. No wonder your circulation and advertising are falling; your editors are turning a once-honored newspaper into a dinosaur in the electronic age.

— Richard Godfrey, San Francisco

Q. Could you offer some insights on how The Times decided to play the story about the alleged J.F.K. terror plot? It was noticeably different than the way the other leading national papers played it; your placement (Metro) and coverage have been more skeptical. I’m particularly curious about why it was not considered a national story, but rather, a local one. Thanks.

— Barbara, Manhattan

A. Here’s the basic thinking on the J.F.K. story: In the years since 9/11, there have been quite a few interrupted terrorist plots. It now seems possible to exercise some judgment about their gravity. Not all plots are the same. In this case, law enforcement officials said that J.F.K. was never in immediate danger. The plotters had yet to lay out plans. They had no financing. Nor did they have any explosives. It is with all that in mind, that the editors in charge this weekend did not put this story on the front page.

In truth, the decision was widely debated even within this newsroom. At the front page meeting this morning, we took an informal poll and a few editors thought the story should have been more prominently played. Some argued it should have been fronted, regardless of the lameness of the plot, simply because it was what everyone was talking about.

And Mr. Godfrey, as to dinosaur-ism: we had the story up on nytimes.com before 1 p.m. on Saturday. The official press conference on the subject had not even started.
Only the NYT would be so lame as to bury a story like this , but since we are looking around the Grey Lady;s graveyard of Journal publications , I now notice that coffin being layed in the ground with the Louisiana Congressman Jeffersons Corruption story in it ....

The New York Times is not about all the News thats fit to print , it's about hiding the Print from all the readers that could throw a fit if they found out what the news really is .

NYT Stock forecast indicator

Brynn 06-08-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 347317)

Fox News is government Controlled ? Did someone inform Rupert Murdock about this yet ? :)


with all due respect, you've got to be kidding:rolleyes:

Then again, I may have that backwards - maybe he's wagging the dog.

The Duke 06-09-2007 04:00 AM

Brynn
 
I guess I am lucky that I don't get Fox news here in Holland .

I have always been suspicious of the MSM anyway , they are not into informing the general public , but instead want to sell sensationalism and fiction in it's place ....thats called entertainment .

CBS and Dan Rather trying to sway an election by foisting falsified documents on the viewing public for example , or Fauxtography (Photoshopped Photos) that gets published by Reuters on the wires and touted as real is another .

I think Fox is a small part of a much larger problem that we all face concerning the unscrupulous purveyors of misinformation in the MSM.

Maybe thats why CBS and NBC stocks are hitting the cellar , and NYT , Boston Globe and WaPo are in big trouble with their shareholders .

Abe Lincoln said it best: "You can fool some of the People all of the time , all of the people some of the time , but you can't fool all of the people all of the time ":)

The Duke 06-09-2007 05:03 AM

JFK Terror Probe Widening
 
No doubt this is just another ploy by the Halliburton hegemony, to keep the sheeple in a state of mindless panic so they can be manipulated into launching wars for oil while ignoring the root causes of terrorism and oppressing innocent Muslims::rolleyes: Official says JFK terror probe widening.

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NEW YORK - The investigation into the thwarted plot to bomb John F. Kennedy International Airport is widening beyond the four men in custody, with more suspects sought outside the U.S. for their suspected roles, a law enforcement official said Friday.

The defendants identified last weekend were “just a piece of it,” the official told The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because of not being authorized to speak publicly. “We are definitely seeking more players. We are targeting others overseas.”

The official declined to provide details about the possible suspects, or in what countries they are being sought.
:cool:

Random Logic 06-09-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 347718)

I have always been suspicious of the MSM anyway , they are not into informing the general public , but instead want to sell sensationalism and fiction in it's place ....thats called entertainment .

As you should be, however it is not only the MSM of which you should be leary. Each media outlet has reasons for reporting the news as they do and "the public's right to know (the truth)" is at the very bottom of the list.

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I think Fox is a small part of a much larger problem that we all face concerning the unscrupulous purveyors of misinformation in the MSM.
Agreed. Fox is no worse than it's competition, whether they are better or not is up to one's personal view.

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Abe Lincoln said it best: "You can fool some of the People all of the time , all of the people some of the time , but you can't fool all of the people all of the time ":)
Wise words, however it is generally accepted that P. T. Barnum once said "There's a sucker born every minute."

The Duke 06-09-2007 06:02 PM

Random
 
Agreed ! PT's words are sheer understatement to the multitude of "Crash and Burners" who fall victim to Liberal Leftist conditioning :D



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Originally Posted by Random Logic (Post 347750)
As you should be, however it is not only the MSM of which you should be leary. Each media outlet has reasons for reporting the news as they do and "the public's right to know (the truth)" is at the very bottom of the list.



Agreed. Fox is no worse than it's competition, whether they are better or not is up to one's personal view.



Wise words, however it is generally accepted that P. T. Barnum once said "There's a sucker born every minute."


Random Logic 06-10-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 347803)
Agreed ! PT's words are sheer understatement to the multitude of "Crash and Burners" who fall victim to Liberal Leftist conditioning :D

I agree the words attributed to P.T. Barnum speaks volumes of the very nature of humans. Humans tend to believe as true whatever they are read or hear, as long as what they see or hear conforms with their limited knowledge.


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