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The Duke 06-29-2007 07:25 PM

Car Bomb Plot in London - Threat Message Posted on Jihad Forum
 
Yet another terrorism plot by the Religion of Peace™ in Britain; the BBC’s best guess at this point is that it was planned by “international elements:” Police avert car bomb ‘carnage’.


British police officers secure the area near to Piccadilly Circus in London, where cops found a vehicle that contains a suspected bomb, June 29, 2007. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

You and I know that it certainly wasn't the Presbyterians , and it certainly wasn't the Jews as the UK's Muslim Public Affairs Commitee claims did it. ...Right ? You do think , don't you ?

Quote:

A car bomb planted in central London would have caused “carnage” if it had exploded, police sources have said.

A controlled explosion was carried out on the car, packed with 60 litres of petrol, gas cylinders and nails, in Haymarket, near Piccadilly Circus. An ambulance crew saw smoke coming from the green metallic Mercedes, near the Tiger Tiger nightclub at 0130 BST. Later part of London’s Park Lane was closed to traffic after reports of a suspicious vehicle. ...

Sources close to the investigation said that the Park Lane closure is linked to the discovery of a vehicle at an underground car park. It is also believed to be linked to the investigation into the Haymarket car bomb. At the moment it is not known if the vehicle at Park Lane contains a device.

“International elements” are believed to be involved with the Haymarket bomb, Whitehall sources told the BBC.
They (MSM) refuse to use the "I" word here .
Fact: Islamofacists planted these bombs , and my guess is you can expect many more of them in the near future...Hello World !

Of course the many Ostriches were sighted today
MSNBC did their best to ignore the plot: Terror Plot Foiled: MSNBC Ignores It.

Then there was no Spin:
Fox News reports that it may have been a failed suicide bomb; apparently the suspect took off running when it failed to detonate.

Then thee was Guestimation:
UK authorities say the two vehicles discovered so far were “linked.” And one was set to be remotely detonated with a cell phone trigger.

Then there was the Obvious
A second car is being examined in an underground car park; and apparently there was enough gasoline in the first car to completely fill its trunk.


Finally the Proof:
CBS News reports that a message was posted on a jihadi bulletin board hours before the car bomb was discovered: Was London Bomb Plot Heralded On Web?, Internet Forum Comment From Night Before: ‘London Shall Be Bombed’.

And let's not forget, there’s a Salman Rushdie connection.

Quote:

Hours before London explosives technicians dismantled a large car bomb in the heart of the British capital’s tourist-rich theater district, a message appeared on one of the most widely used jihadist Internet forums, saying: “Today I say: Rejoice, by Allah, London shall be bombed.”

CBS News found the posting, which went on for nearly 300 words, on the “al Hesbah” chat room. It was left by a person who goes by the name abu Osama al-Hazeen, who appears regularly on the forum.

Al Hesbah is frequently used by international Sunni militant groups, including al Qaeda and the Taliban, to post propaganda videos and messages in their fight against the West. ...

Al-Hazeen’s message begins: “In the name of God, the most compassionate, the most merciful. Is Britain Longing for al Qaeda’s bombings?”

Al-Hazeen decries the recent knighthood of controversial author Salman Rushdie as a blow felt by all British Muslims. “This ‘honoring’ came at a crucial time, a time when the whole nation is reeling from the crusaders attacks on all Muslim lands,” he said, in an apparent reference to the British role in Iraq.

“We say to Britain: The Emir of al Qaeda, Sheikh Osama, has once threatened you, and he carried out his threats. Today I say: Rejoice, by Allah, London shall be bombed,” the message reads.
The Adventure Begins ! :cool:

The Duke 06-29-2007 07:27 PM

MPACUK: Car Bomb May Have Been Planted by MEMRI
 
At the UK’s Muslim Public Affairs Committee web site, a commenter thinks this may be a “marketing stunt.”
By MEMRI. Or some other “Israeli front group.”


Quote:

Lets wait and see if this was:

1) organised by misguided non-believers chanting “Islam” and retaliating for the murderous foreign policies of Blair.

OR

2) was organised as a marketing stunt by SANE, MEMRI, or another unofficial branch of the IDF Intelligence section.

Whoever it was, it is very scary to think that the war is being brought to our streets just because Britain has taken part in the murders of millions of muslims abroad and ecouraged Israel to behave in the same criminal manner.

I maybe completely out of synch with the fanstasy world. I mean this may have absolutely nothing to do with foreign policy in somebody’s deluded world.
Wow. Insanity this deep is almost as scary as the car bomb.:rolleyes:

The Duke 06-29-2007 07:30 PM

Daily Ku Klux Kos Kids: London Bomb a 'Crock of Crap'
 
There’s nothing at all on the Daily Kos front page about the London car bomb plot, of course. It doesn’t advance the cause for them to discuss terrorism of any sort, unless they can “frame” it as Bush’s fault.
But in the diaries, the Kidz are already raving: Daily Kos: London Bomb—What a Crock of Crap!!


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You know what you call a vehicle with 50 gallons of gas? A Cadillac Escalade. The media meltdown over this incident is simply shameful. ...

Judging from the overreaction to this non-incident I think we can safely conclude that Osama Bin Laden will remain holed up in Pakistan and let the fear mongers at CNN, MSNBC, and FOX do the dirty business of scaring the sh*t out of people.
A commenter thoughtfully suggests that it’s a CIA plot:

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CIA op against Brown? (0 / 0)

This is so ridiculously over the top, and it’s suspicious that such a major “terrorism” event happened in the heart of London mere days after Blair was replaced by Brown. One wonders if this is a CIA operation to send a message to Brown not to “go soft” on the Cheney view of total war. Or maybe it’s not the CIA, but disgruntled Blair black baggers who are freelancing as a final “screw you” as they go out the door.

Considering the known things that have been happening in the world since Bush seized power, it’s hard not to view everything through the prism of phantasmagoric Hollywood-style secret plots. The only thing we’ve been missing are aliens and/or time travelers.

Are you shaking or biting the invisible hand?

by puppethead on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:37:32 AM PDT
And they don't call Kos the fever swamps for nothing you know !

:p

The Duke 06-29-2007 07:35 PM

Lord Taylor: Blair Failed, No Such Thing As Terrorism, RoP
 
Let People set off bombs in your country , but don't dare confront them and call them by their true name , because they will label you a racist ...Sounds Crazy Right ?

Well heres proof that Insanity is the core value of being politically correct...

British official Lord John Taylor was on Fox News today calling for more “dialog with the Muslim community.” He doesn’t like the word “terrorists.” Prefers calling them “criminals.”

And he blames it on extremist preachers, “brainwashing” young Muslims into this criminal behavior that has nothing to do with Islam, really.

Except for the fact that 100% of these brainwashing incidents occur in mosques on a daily basis ..hmmmm !

Amazing. And this is a so called “conservative” British politician.:rolleyes:

The Duke 06-29-2007 07:44 PM

UK Police Have 'Crystal Clear' Image of Islamic Terrorist, Another Car Bomb Found
 
ABC News is reporting that UK police have a clear picture of the man who drove that explosive-laden Mercedes in London today. And he looks a lot like a Muslim who was previously arrested in connection with another UK terror plot—but released.


I guess we can all rule out the IRA or the Mafia now. (To name two absurd theories floated by UK authorities trying to avoid the I word.)

Like I Said at the beginning ....it wasn't the Presbyterians !

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British police have a “crystal clear” picture of the man who drove the bomb-rigged silver Mercedes outside a London nightclub, and officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com he bears “a close resemblance” to a man arrested by police in connection with another bomb plot but released for lack of evidence.

Officials say the suspect had been taken into custody in connection with the case of al Qaeda operative Dhiren Barot, who was convicted of orchestrating a vehicle bomb plot involving targets in London, New York, Newark, N.J. and Washington, D.C.

Officials say a surveillance camera caught the suspect “staggering from the Mercedes” shortly after parking it outside the Tiger Tiger nightclub.

U.S. and British law enforcement officials tell ABC News it is increasingly clear Friday’s bomb plot in London involves multliple vehicles, and is described by a senior official as a “terror plot involving lslamic extremists.”

Sky News is reporting another car bomb has been found.



At a Scotland Yard press conference, it was announced that the second car bomb was packed with very similar materials as the first—a large amount of gasoline, a detonator, and a large quantity of nails.
:cool:

The Duke 06-30-2007 05:29 AM

CAIR: British Muslim Detained in Los Angeles
 
The Overinflated , Unindicted Hamas funding co-conspirators CAIR have “breaking news” on their web site; a Muslim citizen of Britain has been detained after arriving on a flight from London yesterday, and is being returned to Britain.

Quote:

(LOS ANGELES, CA, 6/29/07) - The Greater Los Angeles area chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-LA) has been informed that a Muslim citizen of the United Kingdom is being held following his arrival yesterday on a flight from London. CAIR-LA is investigating the reason for the man’s detention. The 57-year-old man is reportedly scheduled to be returned to Britain on a flight later today.
This guy didn't pass screening , the liberals will naturally say it's racial profiling, but I think the real reason they stopped him was "this guy was running from something BIG going down in London ! ":cool:

The Duke 06-30-2007 05:38 AM

MPACUK: Britain is to Blame for London Car Bombs
 
The UK’s Muslim Public Affairs Committee is getting out in front of today’s attempted mass murder attacks in London, and pushing their usual jihadi propaganda—it’s Britain’s foreign policy that’s to blame, and if they don’t change it to be more in line with the Islamic agenda, they can expect more: MPACUK - Foreign Office’s top official: Iraq war fuelling Muslim extremism.

Quote:

The Foreign Office’s top official warned Downing Street that the Iraq war was fuelling Muslim extremism in Britain a year before the 7 July bombings, The Observer can reveal.

Despite repeated denials by Number 10 that the war made Britain a target for terrorists, a letter from Michael Jay, the Foreign Office permanent under-secretary, to the cabinet secretary, Sir Andrew Turnbull - obtained by this newspaper - makes the connection clear.

The letter, dated 18 May 2004, says British foreign policy was a ‘recurring theme’ in the Muslim community, ‘especially in the context of the Middle East peace process and Iraq’.
And in case one post at their site doesn’t get the message across, there’s a second, featuring a graphic picture of a bloody baby: MPACUK - UK’s wars ‘leave EU at risk of terrorism’.


Oh ... and now they are sayin they’ve been receiving “death threats,” too: MPACUK - MPACUK Recieves Death Threats.

It's about time that the Muslim Terror supporters got a little of their own death threat bullcrap thrown back at them ....What goes around , comes around and Islam is no differnet here !

zenbabe 06-30-2007 03:00 PM

car bomb my ass. It was a car with gasoline and nails. Convenient timing, don't you think? A Benz no less, even if it had gone off, at most the windows might have been blown out and it would have just been a fire.

auntie aubrey 06-30-2007 09:14 PM

somehow i get the feeling that if everyone abandoned this forum the duke would still be here, talking to himself.

Hyakujo's Fox 06-30-2007 10:47 PM

He is simply using zefrank as a free host for a de-facto personal blog. I suppose it's the only way he'd get any readers.

The Duke 07-01-2007 06:16 AM

My My
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenbabe (Post 351400)
car bomb my ass. It was a car with gasoline and nails. Convenient timing, don't you think? A Benz no less, even if it had gone off, at most the windows might have been blown out and it would have just been a fire.


Oh so it was just a little bomb and wouldn't have killed anyone ?
Wow I'm glad to know that local zefrank experts are on top of this

But wait on there , We are at a loss for words aren't we ?

Your minimalization version is the same one being hollered out at places like Kos and other left wing fever dives .


If you , and them had bothered to delve deeper into the subject you would find that there were also liquid gas cannisters involved in both bombs , and of course they found a detonator that was wired to a cell phone .....since you seem to think that this was no problem ,, the next time you see one of these car bombs kindly hop in and drive it away to a location where that simple fire won't bother anyone , you'll be doing everyone a favor , I assure you ! :)

The Duke 07-01-2007 07:08 AM

Glasgow Airport Attack
 
While the loony Progressives at Daily Kos stick their fingers in their ears and shout 'La La La La - I Can't Hear You', They are completely ignoring the Glasgow attack—just like they did with the car bombs in London.

Well heres some video of the latest Glasgow attack just to refresh your memory that the ongoing terror threat is real , and to punctuate the fact that Islamonazis are now engaged in plotting attacks all over the western hemisphere , your city could be next .

:cool:

The Duke 07-01-2007 07:11 AM

Blackpool Airport Closed ??
 
Sky News is now reporting that Blackpool Airport (in northwest England) has been closed...

Reports are coming in that Royal Alexandria Hospital, where the burned terrorist was taken, is being evacuated...


This is, a picture of one of the terrorists being arrested:


Officials now are saying that Blackpool Airport has not been closed...

Unconfirmed: the hospital was evacuated because the burned suspect was found to be wearing some kind of vest ... reports that the vest was blown up in a controlled explosion...


Sky News has reported that schools just got out yesterday, and many children were at the Glasgow Airport with their families...


Britain has now raised its security level to Critical” — indicating that terrorist attacks are imminent.”

The Duke 07-01-2007 07:12 AM

Intelligence Warnings About Glasgow Attack?
 
The Blotter says US officials had warnings of an attack in Glasgow:

Quote:

U.S. law enforcement officials received intelligence reports two weeks ago warning of a possible terror attack in Glasgow against “airport infrastructure or aircraft,” a senior US law enforcement officials tells the Blotter on ABCNews.com.

The intelligence reports also warned that airports and aircraft in the Czech Republic could be the targets of al Qaeda-connected terrorists.

The warnings were kept secret for operational reasons, according to officials. In public, the White House and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff have continued to maintain they know of no specific or credible threats involving the United States, even though the intelligence reports specify US aircraft as possible targets.
:cool:

The Duke 07-01-2007 07:19 AM

Muslim Council of Britain: It Could Be the Buddhists
 
The Deputy Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain wants all Muslims to cooperate with police to bring these mysterious criminals to justice, and urges us not to jump to conclusions and create hypothetical problems.

After all,according to the MCB , the UK and Scotland terror attacks could have been committed by Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or just about anyone.

(Warning: the link above leads to Wahhabi propaganda site IslamOnline, and it also has that blasted Drive Cleaner virus/advertisement. Beware of clicking.)


Quote:

CAIRO — The Muslim umbrella group in Britain urged Saturday, June 30, all Britons, including Muslims, to fully cooperate with police in their massive manhunt for those behind a foiled double bomb attack in London.

“Those criminals must be brought to justice,” Deputy Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) Daud Abdullah told IslamOnline.net over the phone from London.

Abdullah said the best advice to community is to allow the process of law to take its due course. “Let’s avoid presumptions...Let’s wait and see; there is little we can say about that,” he added.

“Such incidents create tensions and suspicions,” he said when asked whether Muslim extremists might be behind the attacks. “Let’s not create a hypothetical problem...it can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.”
I hope they’re keeping a close eye on those sneaky Dutch Mennonites too, everyone knows how they are into all kinds of subversive terror acts , and even group sex !

lmao :D

The Duke 07-01-2007 07:36 AM

'The Guy Was in Flames and Seemed to Be Enjoying Himself'
 
After further inspection of the airwaves :

CNN says earlier reports that the burned Glasgow terrorist died of his injuries are incorrect; he’s alive but in critical condition.

Quote:

LONDON, England (CNN) — The United Kingdom raised its terrorism threat level to critical, the highest level possible, Saturday after a vehicle plowed into the terminal building at Scotland’s busiest airport and burst into flames. Authorities at the highest levels are assuming the fiery incident in Glasgow is directly linked to the discovery Friday of two explosives-laden cars in London.

One of two men who drove the car into the terminal’s main entrance was in critical condition at a hospital. It was erroneously reported earlier that he had died.

Police and witnesses in Glasgow described an SUV-style vehicle in flames being driven at full speed toward the building. Witness Jackie Kennedy told the BBC that a man got out of the car, went to the back and pulled out a can of fuel, which he poured on himself and ignited.

“The guy was in flames and seemed to be enjoying himself,” Kennedy said. ...

Jim Manson said he saw a car “with a couple of guys in it trying to push their way into the airport terminal building.”

The vehicle “suddenly caught fire” as one of the two — himself on fire — tried to open up the back of the car, Manson told British television. There was then a small explosion, and the front of the terminal appeared to catch fire.

“Everyone just ran,” Manson said. “We’re absolutely terrified, you can imagine. The first thing on all our minds was: Is there an accident? Is there a terrorist attack?”
Of course, in America these days we’re blessed with posturing morons who think the attack was incredibly funny: NO QUARTER: Glasgow’s Burning—Run For Your Lives.


Allahpundit says there may have been a third suspect who died in the Jeep.

But heres video of the live witness Jackie Kennedy , an interview with the woman who described one of the Glasgow terrorists as “enjoying the flames:”:cool:

The Duke 07-01-2007 06:26 PM

Latest News on UK Terror Plots
 
Five non-Buddhists have now been arrested in the UK in connection with the terror attacks of the past few days: British police arrest five after car bomb attacks.

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GLASGOW (Reuters) - British police arrested a fifth person on Sunday after a fuel-filled jeep was rammed into Scotland’s busiest airport in what police said was a terrorist attack linked to failed car bombings in London.

The arrests included a 26-year-old man and a 27-year-old woman seized on a major highway in northern England on Saturday night and another man, 26, who was detained in Liverpool, in the northwest of England, on Sunday.

Those arrests were in addition to two men, who witnesses described as Asians, who were taken into custody on Saturday immediately after they slammed a Jeep Cherokee into Glasgow airport and set the vehicle ablaze.
Then there is this image from the Daily Mail, showing the terrorist with most of his clothes burned off, trying to open the Jeep’s rear door:



Here are the gas canisters with which they tried to create a sort of homemade fuel-air explosion:



The attacker was apparently wearing a kaffiyeh terror badge.

Quote:

Our exclusive picture shows the attacker in a boiler suit and plastic bags over his feet instead of shoes - the typical uniform of a suicide bomber. His face was covered by a red and white scarf - similar to those worn in other terror attacks.
When Egyptian terrorist Hesham Mohamed Hadayet attacked the El Al terminal at Los Angeles Airport in July 2002, he was shot dead by an armed security guard.

But at the Glasgow Airport, all they had to stop this attack was CS gas; they eventually had to wrestle this human torch terrorist to the pavement.

auntie aubrey 07-02-2007 12:16 AM

i win.

The Duke 07-02-2007 12:26 PM

Good for You
 
thats a whole bag of peanuts .....:D

The Duke 07-02-2007 05:20 PM

British Islamic Association Leader Blames Salman Rushdie for Terror Attacks
 
Iran’s Alalam News interviews the head of the “Britain Islamic Association” who denies Muslims were involved in the terror attacks of the past few days, whines that they’re going to be unfairly targeted, then says that if Muslims did commit the attacks (nudge nudge, wink wink) Salman Rushdie is to blame: UK Muslims Facing More Threats. (Warning: the link goes to an Iranian site, and they often contain viruses or other malware.)

It’s the Islamic trifecta all over again —denial, whining, and veiled threats.

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LONDON, July 1—Head of Britain Islamic Association said here on Sunday that the situation of Muslims in Britain would be deteriorated in results of finding several bombs in two suspected cars which were to target the Glasgow airport.

In an exclusive interview with Alalam, Al-Sayyed Farjani said while Britain Muslims are strongly condemning the terrorist attacks, unfortunately there are always charges against the Muslims accusing them of involving in these attacks.

Referring to the vital role of Muslims in fighting against terrorism and extremism as well as encountering with violence against the innocent people in Britain, the official said while no group has claimed the responsibility of bombings yet; some extremist parties are trying to accuse the Muslims.

Farjani also strongly condemned the knighthood conferred on Salman Rushdie, adding this odious behavior could have be a main factor in preparing the ground for the youth to join terrorist groups.
:cool:

The Duke 07-02-2007 05:41 PM

Even More Jihad Doctors
 
First there was that fabulously rich old Dr. Ayman al Zawahiri ,...

Wow. It seems We now have three more handsomely rich doctors under suspicion for the terror attacks in the UK and Scotland.




Quote:

LONDON, England (CNN) — Investigators are focusing on at least three doctors believed to have played a role in the attempted terror attacks in London and Glasgow last week, sources said Monday.

Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla, 27, has been identified as one of the two men who rammed an explosives-laden SUV into a terminal at Glasgow’s airport on Saturday, one of the sources said.

British authorities believe those two men are the same ones who parked two car bombs in central London on Friday. The cars, packed with fuel and nails, could have killed hundreds if they had been set off.

In addition to Abdulla, police also arrested Dr. Mohammed Asha, a Jordanian-educated physician who moved to England two years ago, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.

Asha, 26, was picked up late Saturday on a motorway in the Cheshire area of northern England, a source said. Police say he was arrested with a 27-year-old woman, identified by Asha’s family as his wife. Asha’s house in Newcastle-on-Stratford has been searched since his arrest Saturday night. Neighbors there said that another doctor is also part of the probe.

Police have sealed off the home of the unnamed doctor and his wife, which is about two miles from Asha’s home in Newcastle-on-Stratford. Forensic teams are searching the house, where the doctor and his wife have lived for about a year, neighbors said. Police would not confirm any details about their search.
The latest from British TV:

Police patrol Glasgow Airport as Britain's terror alert remains at a critical level.
:cool:

The Duke 07-03-2007 01:54 AM

Five Jihad Doctors!
 

The total number of doctors involved in the UK terror attacks is now FIVE.


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Five doctors are now being held in connection with the recent attempted terror attacks - one is an Iraqi doctor who trained in Baghdad.

Sky sources named him as Iraqi Bilal Abdulla - he was left relatively unscathed in an attack on Glasgow airport, in which two men drove a flaming jeep into the airport terminal.

Two doctors were arrested in Paisley, Glasgow, another in Liverpool and one on the M6 on Saturday night.

Abdulla was pictured being led away from the explosion by police and worked at the Royal Alexandra Hospital near Glasgow. The other man detained at Glasgow airport had severe burns and remains in a critical condition at the Royal Alexandra.

So much for the Hypocratic oath ! :cool:

The Duke 07-03-2007 01:58 AM

British Terror Suspect Arrested in Australia
 
Got a silverfish in Brisbane.....

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BRISBANE, Australia (AP) - An Australian television network reports that a suspect wanted in the British terrorism plot has been arrested in the eastern city of Brisbane.
And again , he's a doctor, of course. Aussie doctor held over terror plot.

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A MAN arrested at Brisbane’s international airport overnight over the UK terror plots was a registrar at the Gold Coast Hospital in Southport.

Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said the 27-year-old man was arrested at Brisbane International airport yesterday. He did not have a return ticket.

The man, who Queensland Premier Peter Beattie said was not Australian-born, was arrested at the airport at 11pm (AEST) by a counter-terrorism team comprising Queensland police and Australian Federal Police officers after advice from UK authorities.

Mr Beattie said he understood the man had been attempting to leave Australia.

Brisbane Airport has confirmed that only one flight was delayed last night, a flight to Kuala Lumpur.
What are they teaching at Med College ? ...... Jihad ? :cool:

Stephi_B 07-03-2007 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351321)
Prefers calling them “criminals.”

Well, actually it would be the best approach to call them criminals!

Why shall they be any different from other criminals: serial killers/rapists, child porn rings, organised crime (weapons, drugs, girls, murder-for-hire)...

Why?? Cos they fancy to call themselves 'holy warriors', 'defenders of Islam' etc pp - I guess, it pleases them perfectly if those people ("infidels" and Muslims not liking their ideas) they WANT to scare / make paranoid use that vocabulary likewise - yeah and it creates kinda a "Jihadi Superstar" media hype thing, young men might dig even if the ideology behind is not 100% their thing. Ever thought about that?

And ever thought about how when people in the West start thinking about Bin Laden, suicide bombers, "global ummah conspiracy to take over the world" and whatnot, everytime they see a scarf-wearing lady at the bus stop or in the supermarket, these criminals indeed have halfways won their cause?

The Duke 07-03-2007 04:52 PM

Good Idea Stephie
 
And instead of calling Islam the Religion of Peace . we can call it "the religion of heinous criminals ...:rolleyes: ..you got my vote on this one for sure !


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And ever thought about how when people in the West start thinking about Bin Laden, suicide bombers, "global ummah conspiracy to take over the world" and whatnot, everytime they see a scarf-wearing lady at the bus stop or in the supermarket, these criminals indeed have halfways won their cause?
Why even blame that scarf wearing lady ?

I don't view it that way , I figure she has had enough already of being nothing more than owned like a camel .....I see hijab as an ancient mysoginistic form of oppression , (I guess I'm just a modern 21st century guy that way ...)
Nevertheless Stephie , I don't discount the real diabolical actions commited in the name of the same religion each time they occur, nor do I discount their words , or the words in their little black hearted book ....

:D

The Duke 07-03-2007 04:59 PM

UK Terror: More Arrests in Blackburn
 
How dumb would a British jihadi have to be to order a large shipment of gas canisters now? ’Gas Canister’ Pair Held In Terror Probe.

Blackburn ... hmm ... why does that ring a bell? Oh yes; in May they ran the following video clip about Blackburn:


click photo for video clip
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Two men have been arrested on suspicion of terror offences after they apparently tried to collect a delivery of large gas canisters at an industrial estate in Blackburn.

Lancashire Police say it is too early to say whether the arrests are connected to the attempted terror attacks in Glasgow and London. The pair, both believed to be Asian, are being held at a police station in Lancashire under the Terrorism Act 2000.

Officers swooped after the Calor gas canisters were taken to a unit on the Furthergate Industrial Estate in Birley Street.

Eyewitness Cameron Mason said: “A delivery man was waiting outside the unit to drop off around three or four large red gas canisters. Two Asian men arrived to collect them and just after they started speaking to the delivery man an unmarked police car turned up. Two policemen got out and spoke to the Asian and then a few minutes later a second unmarked police car arrived. About half an hour later the same delivery man came back and dropped off another four canisters.”


The number of doctors involved in the UK terror plots is now seven, and a eighth suspect is a lab technician. All have links with Britain’s National Health Service.

The Duke 07-03-2007 06:04 PM

PM Gordon Brown: "Don't Say Terrorists Are Muslims"
 
If you were hoping that British elites might be shocked into a state of awareness by the Islamic terror attacks, you’re going to be sorely disappointed.

New prime minister Gordon Brown thinks the best way to approach the subject is to crack down on speech and refuse to acknowledge reality: Brown: Don’t say terrorists are Muslims.


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Gordon Brown has banned ministers from using the word “Muslim” in connection with the terrorism crisis.

The Prime Minister has also instructed his team – including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase “war on terror” is to be dropped.

The shake-up is part of a fresh attempt to improve community relations and avoid offending Muslims, adopting a more “consensual” tone than existed under Tony Blair. ...

Mr Brown’s spokesman acknowledged yesterday that ministers had been given specific guidelines to avoid inflammatory language. “There is clearly a need to strike a consensual tone in relation to all communities across the UK,” the spokesman said. “It is important that the country remains united.”

He confirmed that the phrase “war on terror” – strongly associated with Mr Blair and US President George Bush – has been dropped.

Officials insist that no direct links with Muslim extremists have been publicly confirmed by police investigating the latest attempted terror attacks. Mr Brown himself did not refer to Muslims or Islam once in a BBC TV interview on Sunday.

Ms Smith also avoided any such reference in her statement to MPs yesterday.

She said: “Let us be clear – terrorists are criminals, whose victims come from all walks of life, communities and religions. Terrorists attack the values shared by all law-abiding citizens. As a Government, as communities, as individuals, we need to ensure that the message of the terrorists is rejected.”

Tory backbencher Philip Davies said: “I don’t know what purpose is served by this. I don’t think we need *****foot around when talking about terrorism.”

But former Tory homeland security spokesman Patrick Mercer said: “This is quite a smart idea. We know that the vast majority of Muslims are not involved in terrorism and we have to accept there are sensitivities about these matters.”
:cool:

The Duke 07-04-2007 04:24 AM

Jihads a Joke, so Heres One
 
Guest Commentary
By Khalid Ahmed, MD
Board Certified Gastroenterologist and former Jihad Associate, al Qaeda UK


Quote:

Ever have “one of those days?”
Sure, all of us go through the occasional rough patch, but I swear there are times when I think Allah must really have it in for me. I mean, I know the “Big Guy” is supposed to have a sense of humor, but do I always have to be the punchline?

Take for example this last week. A few mates and I had been planning a big martyrdom weekend for quite a while; it’s something we first began discussing a few years ago in medical school back in Amman. We were sitting around the dorm eating pizza, cramming for a big anatomy final, when Ali said “you know, after graduation, we should get together for something really big.” We talked about a fishing trip to Canada or something, but most of the guys thought that sounded pretty boring. Abdul suggested a golf weekend in Cancun, but the all-inclusives there can get pretty pricey in-season. Hassan (who’s really into motorcycles) suggested renting Harleys and going to Sturgis for the Biker Rally, but we heard that crowd can get pretty rowdy.

Anyhoo, Achmed finally says, “how about packing cars with explosives and killing hundreds of random infidels in a coordinated series of gigantic fireballs?” And we’re like, f*ckin’ A! Not only would we be it an awesome bonding experience (with plenty of Paradise poontang, LOL), we would be doing a valuable community service.
Okay, so we high-fived and made a solemn promise that we’d target two years after graduation for the big weekend Jihad prank blowout.

I know how it usually goes with these kinds of fraternity things; what with starting up a medical practice, honor killing obligations, and starting a family, it’s easy to lose touch with the old school buddies. But this thing — our thing — was serious, you know? Thanks to email we were able to keep in touch and keep the plan going. As luck would have it, we all won Achmedinijad scholarships to do our residencies in England for the National Health Service. We got our families together most every weekend for backyard cookouts and self-flagellation and TV football matches. Afterwards me and the other guys would slip out to the garage for cigars, and to pack shrapnel.

So okay, the big weekend arrives, and the guys come over to my place bright and early, everybody’s jazzed about rolling up some kufr carnage. All the propane tanks and propellant and nail cannisters are ready to go. I look at Ali and say, “okay mate, back up your car to the garage and I’ll start loading it up.” He gets this dumbstruck look on his face and says, “my car? I thought Hassan was going to do the martyrdom.” And then Hassan does a massive spit-take with his tea, and he’s like, “whoa dude, I rigged the cell phones, I didn’t agree to blow up. I thought Achmed was going to do the blowing up.”
Then Achmed’s like, “don’t look at me, pal, I thought I was just providing the spiritual guidance. Plus my car’s in the shop for transmission work.” From there it just descended into this big shouting match.
Holy frickin’ prophet, two years of planning this prank and now everybody wants to ***** out on the actual martyrdom.
Roflmao


:D :D :D

Stephi_B 07-04-2007 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351831)
And instead of calling Islam the Religion of Peace . we can call it "the religion of heinous criminals ...:rolleyes: ..you got my vote on this one for sure !




Why even blame that scarf wearing lady ?

I don't view it that way , I figure she has had enough already of being nothing more than owned like a camel .....I see hijab as an ancient mysoginistic form of oppression , (I guess I'm just a modern 21st century guy that way ...)
Nevertheless Stephie , I don't discount the real diabolical actions commited in the name of the same religion each time they occur, nor do I discount their words , or the words in their little black hearted book ....

:D

Mmh, you did not get my idea... :(
  • You react just the way these criminals want you too
  • Filing them among ordinary criminals would accomplish actually the contrary of discounting their actions or words
  • There are laws in all European countries that can hinder a woman to be 'owned like a camel' (btw, mind, until the late 1960s / early 1970s, W-Germany did not allow women to have a bank account or a job w.o. permission of their hubbies/dads... Islam/oriental culture has really no patent on machismo!) - they just have to be applied properly

The Duke 07-04-2007 09:27 AM

Stephie
 
Regardless of whatever reaction , these Islamonazis are not going to stop no matter what happens short of their total defeat .

This is something you will just have to learn the hard way I guess ...

May I suggest that instead of taking that luxury vacation to Greece or France this year , instead take up residence in a Kibbutz somewhere around the border of Gaza ,or the West Bank .

You will see and experience for yourself the resolve that these nuts have , and the origin of it coming from a black hearted book they use as an excuse to destroy others .

We don't need the Keystone Cops on this one , we need strength and conviction ...and to be able to ascertain a way to defeat the ideology of death .

The Jihadi doesn't see himself as a criminal , and I don't think it's plausible that we see him as a criminal either ..let's call the Jihadi exactly what he is , He is in fact the enemy to diversity among humankind and freedom of belief ,an enemy to free speech , and the pursuit of life liberty and happiness.

Squawk all you want but there is no getting around it , it's all written in black and white in their little evil book , all you have to do is open it and read it .

Or you can look HERE to Sam Harris who has listed all the verses that drive IslamoNazis to their acts

In Context to my argument :

Are we to say that All Germans are Criminals because of Nazism ?

NO of course not ..The German People were not the real criminals the Nazis were .

But did the German people negate their responsibility to speak out and act to curb the resolute evil coming from a third Reich they allowed to govern them ?

YES they Did !

see those parrallels yet ?

I have yet to see one Muslim , just one muslm jump up out of their chair and shout " Not In My Name , or In the Name of my religion "

They are scared , just like the third reich had the German public scared ...

But paint an innocent cartoon about, or say something wrong about Mohammed and just watch them all go on tilt together "

It's the same damn thing all over again , only this time the Germans aren't negating their responsibilities , the Muslims are !

There are no actual criminals here to deal with , just an ideology and a religion run amok !

Stephi_B 07-04-2007 12:30 PM

Mmh, I don't have the honour to get a personalised version of your standard lecture - you should know that I live only slightly above the poverty line and can neither afford luxury vacations nor have much time for any vacations at all, plus you should know that I know the Qu'ran quite well (misogynic, homophobe, revengeful monotheism from the desert at its finest just like Bible and Torah).

Am extremely short of time and increasingly bored by your 1D handling of the problematic, so just this:

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351897)
We don't need the Keystone Cops on this one , we need strength and conviction ...and to be able to ascertain a way to defeat the ideology of death .

So you are telling me that all actions of legislators, police, secret services, border patrols against terrorism and extremism worldwide are dilettante and ineffective? You suggest? More military actions? Did they decrease the problem in any way so far?? Mayhap even deportation of Muslims living in non-Muslim countries?

:confused:

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351897)
The Jihadi doesn't see himself as a criminal , and I don't think it's plausible that we see him as a criminal either ..let's call the Jihadi exactly what he is , He is in fact the enemy to diversity among humankind and freedom of belief ,an enemy to free speech , and the pursuit of life liberty and happiness.

(i.e. the ultimate evil...)

Hate speech and (attempted) murder - particularly in large-scale terrorist fashion - are crimes --> criminals and not some sort of mythical Übermenschen. Do a bit of reading on the Red Army Fraction and the hysteria back then in the 70s - which made them far bigger in the heads of people than they actually were. And both the phenomenon and hysteria in that case were on a far smaller scale than today.

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351897)
Squawk all you want but there is no getting around it , it's all written in black and white in their little evil book , all you have to do is open it and read it .

Nope, gonna leave you squawking alone now. Love this board cos it's more like a virtual living room and not a virtual battle field. A place to relax, have fun, be childish whatever. :)

You know, working for the "Keystone Cops" is one of the things that would interest me very much after I have my PhD... so I might still have do do with extremism, terrorism in depth and professionally. Your theses though a) offer nothing new to solve the problem, it's just hollering about "Islam this", "Muslims that" and b) just don't fit into a living room, now, do they? ;)

The Duke 07-04-2007 01:29 PM

Stephie
 
We'll talk again sometime after you have your PhD , A career , your own family with kids , Your Husband, and your favorite vacation orde, not to mention the many other things like your Grandkids , whom you will soon come to find threatened by the developing circumstances surrounding todays events .....

It's okay to clamour on about the Torah and the Bible , Heck let's even throw in the Bahavad Gida for extra measure , as you try to to compare their followeres to those who live by the Quran , I understand your rhetoric for what it is ....In your world it's just like those were really Bhuddists who were commiting terror acts in London , and not Muslims ...Dream On !

I'll accept it gladly , Today I am the Child thats quite fine and dandy by me , but in reality it is actually you by your own words who are not yet finished growing , either with your studies ..nor the fulfilment of any of your long term lifes goals .

And today you tell me you are Poor , Hardly I say !

You are not poor at all , even though you claim you are ....after all , How could someone so destitute , so poor and as an impoverished person ever pay for the study it takes to acquire that PhD .... Oops looks like you got a little bit caught out here Stephie

Your reasoning about your own life is not quite relevant you see ...

But your day of reasoning will come, they all do !

In the meantime you stick to messaging , but remember the entire world is my living room !
:D

The Duke 07-04-2007 01:44 PM

Al Queda Leader: 'Those Who Cure You Will Kill You'
 
The Islamofacists may be against modernity and innovation in most areas, but they’re very creative when it comes to depravity: ‘Those who cure you will kill you’.
This crispy terror suspect was a licensed medical doctor working for the NHS

Quote:

An al-Qaeda leader in Iraq boasted before last week’s failed bombings in London and Glasgow that his group was planning to attack British targets and that “those who cure you will kill you”, The Times has learnt.

The warning was delivered to Canon Andrew White, a senior British cleric working in Baghdad, and could be highly significant as the eight Muslims arrested in the wake of the failed plot are all members of the medical profession. Canon White told The Times that he had passed the general warning, but not the specific words, to a senior official at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) in mid-April. A Foreign Office spokesman said last night that it was forwarding the actual words to the Metropolitan Police.

The Times also learnt yesterday that one of the suspects, the Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla, had links to radical Islamic groups, and that several of the eight suspects have now been linked to known extremist radicals listed on MI5’s data base. Canon White, who runs Baghdad’s only Anglican parish, said that he met the al-Qaeda leader on the fringes of a meeting about religious reconciliation held in Amman, the Jordanian capital.

“He talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans. He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British. He said the people who cure you would kill you.”

The man, who was in his forties and had travelled from Syria for the meeting, said that the plans would come to fruition in the next few weeks and target the British first. He said that the British and Americans were being targeted because of their actions in Iraq. He did not learn the man’s identity until after the meeting, and will not disclose it now, but said: “I met the Devil that day.”
:cool:

Stephi_B 07-04-2007 01:59 PM

Ehm if

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351904)
the entire world is my living room !

then you might know that Germany's (still) got a free university system

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351904)
You are not poor at all , even though you claim you are ....after all , How could someone so destitute , so poor and as an impoverished person ever pay for the study it takes to acquire that PhD .... Oops looks like you got a little bit caught out here Stephie

Actually I get paid money (officially for teaching, but actually so that I can live while working on my PhD) - as a part time scientific employee - of which I pay twice a year the university fee (~240€, more than half for the public transport ticket, the rest for uni admin: cheap food & drink available on campus, stuff like that) every student pays, no matter if freshman or PhD student. (Only if you're starting a second study - not building upon your initial one - you have to pay REAL fees at the moment.)
But well, after my fix costs (rent, insurances, heating, water, electricity) are away I have ca. 200€ more than a single person on welfare - no luxury vacations you see...

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 351904)
I understand your rhetoric for what it is ....In your world it's just like those were really Bhuddists who were commiting terror acts in London , and not Muslims ...Dream On !

No in my world it was most likely Muslims - but not "the" Muslim. Just like RAF and Red Brigade people were leftists - but not "the" leftist. Or did you see me (definitely a leftist) kidnapping a manager or shooting a state attorney lately?

P.S.: Dunno if I'll get paranoid if I have 'settled myself down in life'... ;) (Well, actually I don't know if I'll ever gonna have this kids and hubby thing going on, PhD is quite sure though, just loads of writing stuff up till spring) Don't do the grown-up show on me :p

The Duke 07-04-2007 02:14 PM

Media Puzzled at UK Terror Plot ,Star Says "Denial is a river in S. America"
 
The Toronto Star is completely unable to identify a common thread among the broad strata of the UK terror suspects: U.K. doctor plot thickens.:rolleyes:

Subtitled: “All 8 detainess [sic] have ties to health service, but genesis of terror scheme still eludes investigators.”

Quote:

LONDON–Were they sent to Britain with malicious intent, or did the will to wreak havoc come later? That is now the central question for Britain’s counter-terror command as it works to unravel the botched weekend car bomb attempts in London and Scotland.

With six foreign doctors, one medical student and a former lab technician in custody after a four-day manhunt, investigators are quietly satisfied the “major suspects” in the case are in hand.

The probe now is shifting focus, as Scotland Yard works to pinpoint the genesis of the plot that fell apart bloodlessly in a surreal series of events that began early Friday.

All eight detainees have ties to Britain’s National Health Service, overlapping in their duties at two hospitals in England and Scotland. Most also have roots elsewhere, but investigators have thus far found scant few common threads in their respective backgrounds in Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, India and Saudi Arabia.
What could possibly tie this incredibly diverse group of non-Buddhists together?

It’s a real head-scratcher.:rolleyes:

The Duke 07-04-2007 05:50 PM

UK Muslim Leader makes a major Flip-Flop
 
Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, head of Britain’s largest “mainstream” Islamic advocacy group, said all the right things in his statement today: British Muslim leader in call to support the police.


And with only the teeniest little hint of a threat. His PR people must be working with him.

Quote:

A BRITISH Muslim leader yesterday condemned the terror attacks and called on the faithful to provide “all necessary support” to prevent further outrages.

Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said it was the “Islamic duty” to do this.

He said: “It looks, sadly, as if the terror threat facing our country will be with us for some time to come.

“So let us be absolutely clear about this - that those who seek to deliberately kill or maim innocent people are the enemies of all of us.

“There is no cause whatsoever that could possibly justify such barbarity.

“Those who engage in such murderous actions and those that provide support for them are the enemies of all, Muslims and nonMuslims, and stand against our shared values in the UK.” He said his group would be convening a meeting of key imams and leading community activists in London on Saturday.
You may recall that a couple of weeks ago, Dr. Abdul Bari was singing a very different tune, inciting Muslim rage over Salman Rushdie: British Muslim Leaders Seething Over Rushdie.

Quote:

“Many will interpret the knighthood as a final contemptuous parting gift from Tony Blair to the Muslim world,” said secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, Abdul Bari.

Bari said that the Indian-born author earned “notoriety among Muslims for the highly insulting and blasphemous manner in which he portrayed early Islamic figures much-loved and honoured by them.”

“The insensitive decision to grant Rushdie a knighthood can therefore only do harm to the image of our country in the eyes of hundreds of millions of Muslims across the world,” he warned.
:cool:

The Duke 07-05-2007 11:46 AM

And We Have Another Jihad Doctor with a Video
 
There’s another video from the Egyptian physician, Ayman al-Zawahiri, but it sounds like nothing new; Dr. Rusty has some details: The Jawa Report: New Zawahiri Video Released: ‘The Advice of One Concerned’.


Or....You can view this despicable Islamofacist monstrosity of a non human being right here ....

The Duke 07-05-2007 11:58 AM

British Muslims Gather to Show their Love and Devotion for the UK
 
Here are a series of Speeches and some images that were taken by Rusty Humphries just outside the central Mosque of London ...Audio and video show just how many of the mainstream British muslims (most of whom are in England for purely economic and otherwise asylum reasons) feel about the Crown , and the country as a whole : Anti Rushdie -Anti UK speeches from outside the Central Mosque in London.

Even more reason for England to cordially invite the people of this nature to simply shut up, and catch the next plane back to the desert land from whence they came :cool:

The Duke 07-05-2007 12:02 PM

Islamofacist group Hizb Ut Tahrir in Britain
 
A BBC show called “Politics of Terror” focuses on Hizb ut Tahrir and their infiltration into British schools and institutions.

The Duke 07-05-2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephi_B (Post 351908)
Ehm if



then you might know that Germany's (still) got a free university system



Actually I get paid money (officially for teaching, but actually so that I can live while working on my PhD) - as a part time scientific employee - of which I pay twice a year the university fee (~240€, more than half for the public transport ticket, the rest for uni admin: cheap food & drink available on campus, stuff like that) every student pays, no matter if freshman or PhD student. (Only if you're starting a second study - not building upon your initial one - you have to pay REAL fees at the moment.)
But well, after my fix costs (rent, insurances, heating, water, electricity) are away I have ca. 200€ more than a single person on welfare - no luxury vacations you see...



No in my world it was most likely Muslims - but not "the" Muslim. Just like RAF and Red Brigade people were leftists - but not "the" leftist. Or did you see me (definitely a leftist) kidnapping a manager or shooting a state attorney lately?

P.S.: Dunno if I'll get paranoid if I have 'settled myself down in life'... ;) (Well, actually I don't know if I'll ever gonna have this kids and hubby thing going on, PhD is quite sure though, just loads of writing stuff up till spring) Don't do the grown-up show on me :p

a Free education reminds me of a Free lunch ....A free lunch is usually something that you wouldn't buy on sight anyway , but if it's free , okay go for it ...

I know of subsidized education , like we have here in Holland , and the study Buurse (loan) but in Holland everyone pays for their education ....

No teacher worth their salt wants to work for free...

And the Quality of education here is very high .....what a coincidence that you are an educator too !


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