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Old 03-28-2005, 11:00 PM   #31
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the christians that i know...

feed the hungry
take care of "orphans"
love the lonely
serve with sincere, generous hearts
open their homes to whomever is in need
and
turn the other cheek.


but maybe that's just me.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:03 PM   #32
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...or you can always "shake it like a polaroid picture"

i'm down w/that.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:16 PM   #33
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If you were remotely capable of making a point, topcat, there would be no need to ask you what your point is. But you're right in that there's nothing to dissect. Prejudice is usually pretty simple that way.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:30 PM   #34
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I think the irony was that when I saw the title of this thread my first thought was that there are no good christians, and I'm pretty sure most christians would agree. I mean, I bet you we'd all say that we try our best, but I bet you we'd all say we fall short so often, too. Granted there's a large population of christians that miss the mark entirely, but it doesn't mean that their intentions are grossly deceptive, blatent, or agressive even. That's why we hold on to our faith...because we know how short we fall and there's only one way we believe that makes up for it.

So, Bush or not, wars and bloodshed or peace, it's not our intention to screw up the world (which by the way, we're not soley responsible for), we're just doing our best to adhere to our faith in whatever way we believe.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:11 AM   #35
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This is an interesting article, from today's NY Times Online...

March 28, 2005

Death Sentence Thrown Out Because of Jury's Bible Reading
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 6:24 p.m. ET

DENVER (AP) -- The Colorado Supreme Court on Monday threw out the death penalty in a rape-and-murder case because jurors had studied Bible verses such as "eye for eye, tooth for tooth'' during deliberations.

On a 3-2 vote, justices ordered Robert Harlan to serve life in prison without parole for kidnapping 25-year-old cocktail waitress Rhonda Maloney in 1994 and raping her at gunpoint for two hours.

The jurors in Harlan's 1995 trial sentenced him to die, but defense lawyers discovered five of them had looked up Bible verses, copied them down and talked about them while deliberating a sentence behind closed doors.

The Supreme Court said that "at least one juror in this case could have been influenced by these authoritative passages to vote for the death penalty when he or she may otherwise have voted for a life sentence.''

Assistant District Attorney Michael Goodbee said prosecutors were reviewing the ruling and could ask the state Supreme Court to reconsider or could appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

During oral arguments before the Supreme Court last month, defense attorney Kathleen Lord said the jurors had gone outside the law. "They went to the Bible to find out God's position on capital punishment,'' she said.

Prosecutors had argued that jurors should be allowed to refer to the Bible or other religious texts during deliberations.
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