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Old 09-13-2006, 11:36 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by craig johnston
it's one of those areas where two things that i strongly believe in
come into conflict, ie a revulsion for fascism and a commitment to
sexual freedom.
i'm also interested in understanding why people find something so
nauseous exciting.
and, i must admit, i have a sneaking suspicion that there are those
who use it as a way of acceptably living out their political as well as
sexual fantasies.

otherwise, you're right, it's pretty boring.
To address your interest in human arousal and taboo, the body chemically sees fear (an extreme form of revulsion) and arousal very similarly. Both produce endorphins and adrenaline, the interpretation of those chemicals by the brain produces a contextual reaction based on past experience. That is why when some people get really nervous about public speaking they get "butterflies" in their stomach, or when they are first "in love" they also have a similar reaction. With taboos, there are societal rules that create an attraction/replusion for an object or act. Those that find a particular taboo exciting simply do not interpret the taboo the same as someone else would. Taboos also change with time (and cultures), as they become less taboo and more mainstream, the reaction/repulsion response diminishes.

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Old 09-13-2006, 12:08 PM   #47
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and, i must admit, i have a sneaking suspicion that there are those
who use it as a way of acceptably living out their political as well as
sexual fantasies.
I'd be careful with this. Fetishes are often hardwired into the brain starting at a very young age, such as the boy who lusts after toe rings lifelong in response to pleasant memories of playing on the floor at mama's pretty feet. Rare is the toddler who has an opinion about fascism.

A good book on the subject is Different Loving. I spent a heady evening with the authors once, but that's another story.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:04 PM   #48
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I'd be careful with this. Fetishes are often hardwired into the brain starting at a very young age, such as the boy who lusts after toe rings lifelong in response to pleasant memories of playing on the floor at mama's pretty feet. Rare is the toddler who has an opinion about fascism.

A good book on the subject is Different Loving. I spent a heady evening with the authors once, but that's another story.
That is a good book. She broke ground with her dissertation on Human Sexuality I concur that most of us are imprinted, at a very young age with our likes and dislikes about attraction. Usually by the time we reach puberty most of our predilections are already set and we begin looking for mates that match that internal "wishlist."

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Old 09-14-2006, 04:19 PM   #49
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I think in America we are feeling the same way the German people did.
Amen to that. Along with all the attendant self-delusion, btw.
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