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Old 05-04-2007, 02:08 PM   #16
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I think that if we are respectful then all rules will fall in the their proper place.
i agree. there is an obvious political tension between the existing folks and the new arrivals. not to descend into chaos in the current events forum will be the biggest challenge.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:13 PM   #17
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i also think this is a place filled with open minded people, but i can't say the same about some of the folks that have recently been posting in curent events - and that is what led me to post.

as for rules, there are a few big ones:

no spam
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no images or comments that disparage people with disabilities
no threats of physical violence towards anyone.

beyond that, think of it as you would a dinner party - generally no rules are printed out, but it becomes apparent when things get out of hand. arguments are fine, but if a fight breaks out, or the converstaion turns to factional name calling - someone has to leave.
I can handle that. I just hope you deal with the individual misfits and not lump everyone new that just recently arrived as trouble makers. Yes, I can see where you are coming from though.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:18 PM   #18
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not to descend into chaos in the current events forum will be the biggest challenge.
I almost never go in there, not even just to lurk. I still haven't recovered from the schism on the Show forum.

This has been a fun place for me so far, however, and I hope it continues to find its way relatively easily.

I think it's okay to be who you are, you know? But there's no reason for incivility. Let's go for Jon Stewart talking to John McCain rather than Tucker Carlson.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:19 PM   #19
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I can handle that. I just hope you deal with the individual misfits and not lump everyone new that just recently arrived as trouble makers. Yes, I can see where you are coming from though.
i won't lump.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:25 PM   #20
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obvious political tension between the existing folks and the new arrivals
once again i have a slight problem with this. new arrivals are existing folks too, no? why do we always have to label people and establish some kind of crazy-arse "ranking"?

if people are complaining about new members flooding the board (which admittedly they are doing and, yes, they are getting on my nerves as well!), maybe the people that are already on this board are the ones that are creating a problem and not the new ones... i am glad to see a few new faces, even if they make me throw up my arms in despair sometimes. i prefer that to endlessly treading in the same old place.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:27 PM   #21
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^Brightpearl I agree with you whole heartly. I wander in there once in a while, but the tension is thick. I my opinions are typically very strong, so I usually think better then to post something that might cause someone to lash out at me. I rather not say anything at all.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:27 PM   #22
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I see you banned the Duke. He is a nice respectable person among many people. He doesn't bully or attack people.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:31 PM   #23
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once again i have a slight problem with this. new arrivals are existing folks too, no? why do we always have to label people and establish some kind of crazy-arse "ranking"?
I don't think it's about ranking... I think it's more about more about attitude. When new people come in as if they know everything they tend to rub the older ones the wrong way. I think what Ze is trying to say is... please proceed with caution.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:34 PM   #24
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I think it's more about more about attitude. When new people come in as if they know everything they tend to rub the older ones the wrong way.
i don't care if someone's old or new.. old members with an attitude are just as annoying as new ones with an attitude.

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I think what Ze is trying to say is... please proceed with caution.
nothing wrong with that!
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:47 PM   #25
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i don't care if someone's old or new.. old members with an attitude are just as annoying as new ones with an attitude.
I don't disgree with you, and thank you. Unfortunatly most believe in senority.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:53 PM   #26
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i don't care if someone's old or new.. old members with an attitude are just as annoying as new ones with an attitude.
i agree with this, and am willing to see what happens here. this forum however, has a context which is made up of the surrounding environment (my site) and its history (legacy membership), and when anything changes significantly i will weigh that change against that context.

this is not an empty snail shell to be crawled into.

those exist elsewhere: http://www.forumforfree.com/

the ban on Duke is not permanent, but rather a cooling-off period while we get this sorted. when and if he decides to come back he can continue to " shock... that's a promise ..." in a place that has "good internet coverage", and it will be judged on its own merits.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:55 PM   #27
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I don't disgree with you, and thank you. Unfortunetly most believe in senority.
I'm sorry but if you want to keep the board bland so it's just a small group of people all with the same opinions and attitudes, then your board will be limited. Which is not a bad thing if that is what you are looking for in a message board. Some people like that. I think it's only fair to lay out the expectations you have of people when they come here if rules are going to be implemented. So far there is no FAQ laying this out. It's all subjective. People don't want to be walking around on egg shells fearing they may offend the senor people here. I know I don't.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:57 PM   #28
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Maybe a subforum could be created for the influx of toasters from ICQ?

I think as long as they're willing to contribute to the board and follow the rules accordingly, there's no reason to deny them access to the wonderland that is the Zefrank Message Board

New toasters, what were the rules like on ICQ?
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:03 PM   #29
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I'm sorry but if you want to keep the board bland so it's just a small group of people all with the same opinions and attitudes, then your board will be limited. Which is not a bad thing if that is what you are looking for in a message board. Some people like that. I think it's only fair to lay out the expectations you have of people when they come here if rules are going to be implemented. So far there is no FAQ laying this out. It's all subjective. People don't want to be walking around on egg shells fearing they may offend the senor people here. I know I don't.
subjective? of course it is. what do you think a group of people writing text to each other is? you think a rulebook will somehow alleviate your responsibility to learn to get along with people here?

ok.

the rulebook is bright green and gilded in gold. inside there is a single page. it reads : "don't be an asshole"

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i forgot - on the back of that page it says (in italics): "unless you are funny"
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:11 PM   #30
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the rulebook is bright green and gilded in gold. inside there is a single page. it reads : "don't be an asshole"
beautiful. simple. perfect.
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