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agentsmith · 05-18-2003, 01:42 PM

i saw it last night and i am disappointed beyond words.

The fighting was awesome and the humor was great and i loved the french people...but the rest was pure shit and i hat the wachowski brothers with a passion you can only dream of.

Ah, well. smith was abundant, to say the least. it was worth seeing i guess, for the funny bits and the special effects but the plot was absolutely fvcked.

05-18-2003, 07:12 PM

A couple of my friends hated the movie. One said Reloaded sold out to the studio. I thought it was okay. Didn't live up to what I was expecting though.

agentsmith · 05-18-2003, 09:52 PM

ah. i would have hated it if it werent for the french people and the fight scenes.

ambo · 05-18-2003, 11:18 PM

loved the fights and the freeway chase
plot was way too complicated
i will have to see it a few more times before i understand it
i never expected it to live up to the first movie

liking agent smith more and more !

Frieda · 05-19-2003, 03:59 AM

i thought the plot was a bit too simple and predictable, especially the part with the dude with the french accent. i do love the way agent smith is developing in the story, but i hated the ending of the movie. it's more a preparation on part 3, which disappointed me. and they shouldn't have picked 2 chinese guys (the keymaker and that dude that was with the oracle).

anyway, the stunts were great, loved the highway chase and the fight with all the agent smiths. loved the humor too. and loved the hot sex scene with neo and trinity. wow.

chuckie egg · 05-19-2003, 07:37 AM

Comes out in the uk this week.....

Frieda · 05-19-2003, 08:34 AM

well, well, well, sorry about the spoilers. go and see it anyway.

i wonder why that french speaking dude is called Merovingian. the Merovingians were a french/german family of kings. legend says they've found and hidden the holy grail, which is now somewhere in paris, where still members of the blood line of the merovingians live. rennes-le-chateau and it's function on the pentagram with the surrounding villages is a legendary village/castle in this legend too.

or would he just be called merovingian because that sounds french?

am i going too far in my philosophy?

edited to add: oh, and maybe someone could put a spoiler warning in the thread title.. agent smith? ze?

chuckie egg · 05-19-2003, 08:38 AM

Thats ok... I sort of knew what happens anyway

We watched the first Matrix again at weekend as a build-up! hehe

I want a leather jacket!

Frieda · 05-19-2003, 08:45 AM

a coworker of mine has a long leather jacket. the guy is about 210 centimeters tall, so he makes quite an impression when wearing that jacket!

ambo · 05-19-2003, 11:43 AM

yeah, i loved neo's look in this one
the character has really transformed into something cartoonish, which i think works
trinity looked way older

i had a deep need to see the original when i got home - may just pop in the dvd tonight...

and i just figured out this morning that neo is an anagram for one - shit i am SLOW !!!!

05-19-2003, 12:24 PM

There shouldn't have been a sex scene, especially one that long.

Miss Malevolent · 05-19-2003, 12:32 PM

I thought the movie was good...but not great.

I mean what did they say, "virtual cinema" was the new thing. "You won't be able to tell what's real from the fake." Yeah right...the agent jumping on the car was fake, the 'Burly Brawl' sequence was fake as hell, I mean it was just jarringingly (if that's a word) fake. It was kinda pissing me off.

Let's take on the action sequences. I just came away with that with a, *shrug* Eh...I mean there were very few moments that made me go, "Whoa", like the first one, hell...even X-2 had more, "Whoa" moments. (May God forgive me for comparing Reloaded to X-Men 2, but it had to be done)

And the philosophy of The Matrix...was replaced by doublespeak. "I know that you know that I know that you knew that I knew that you knew that the now is no more." I mean what the ****? This movie PALES in comparison to the first one in the depth of how we allow our senses to rule ourselves and how belief in oneself can overcome the, "reality", that we're living in. Where was that in this movie?

What about the introduction of werewolves, ghosts, tooth fairy et al, by the Oracle? What the **** was that for? I mean straight up, could've just said, there were aberrant programs that refused to go away. That would've been sufficent enough of the French **** and his gal AND the twins.

It's like a whole load of shit was just spouted by the characters, and went nowhere.

Kung Fu? Good. Action? Good. Philosophy? Almost non-existent. I wanted to love this movie. I loved the first one so much. Now as I think back on what I saw, I'm getting pissed that I waited four years for that.

05-19-2003, 12:36 PM

I'd like to see everything the studio wanted in the movie as opposed to the original script.

RuneT · 05-19-2003, 12:42 PM

This is funny!

malina · 05-19-2003, 01:26 PM

lol rune

dammit i wanted to see the matrix R and no one i know liked it so far... is it worth watching it just for the special fx?

05-18-2003, 01:42 PM	#1
agentsmith rap geisha Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: . Posts: 5,588	the matrix reloaded i saw it last night and i am disappointed beyond words. The fighting was awesome and the humor was great and i loved the french people...but the rest was pure shit and i hat the wachowski brothers with a passion you can only dream of. Ah, well. smith was abundant, to say the least. it was worth seeing i guess, for the funny bits and the special effects but the plot was absolutely fvcked. __________________ ----------- "Genesis: First, I'd like to say reality is invisible to the naked eye. You and me both know that life is a real bitch. Doing your best, you say? That's not good enough."

05-18-2003, 09:52 PM	#3
agentsmith rap geisha Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: . Posts: 5,588	ah. i would have hated it if it werent for the french people and the fight scenes. __________________ ----------- "Genesis: First, I'd like to say reality is invisible to the naked eye. You and me both know that life is a real bitch. Doing your best, you say? That's not good enough."

05-18-2003, 11:18 PM	#4
ambo feline, naturally Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,407	loved the fights and the freeway chase plot was way too complicated i will have to see it a few more times before i understand it i never expected it to live up to the first movie liking agent smith more and more ! __________________ Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we have not stopped to include violence as an option in our conflict management, we are still savages. --Thomas A. Edison

05-19-2003, 03:59 AM	#5
Frieda in limbo Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 19,506	i thought the plot was a bit too simple and predictable, especially the part with the dude with the french accent. i do love the way agent smith is developing in the story, but i hated the ending of the movie. it's more a preparation on part 3, which disappointed me. and they shouldn't have picked 2 chinese guys (the keymaker and that dude that was with the oracle). anyway, the stunts were great, loved the highway chase and the fight with all the agent smiths. loved the humor too. and loved the hot sex scene with neo and trinity. wow. __________________ zoek waar je wil, maar het zit in jezelf oh yeah

05-19-2003, 08:34 AM	#7
Frieda in limbo Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 19,506	well, well, well, sorry about the spoilers. go and see it anyway. i wonder why that french speaking dude is called Merovingian. the Merovingians were a french/german family of kings. legend says they've found and hidden the holy grail, which is now somewhere in paris, where still members of the blood line of the merovingians live. rennes-le-chateau and it's function on the pentagram with the surrounding villages is a legendary village/castle in this legend too. or would he just be called merovingian because that sounds french? am i going too far in my philosophy? edited to add: oh, and maybe someone could put a spoiler warning in the thread title.. agent smith? ze? __________________ zoek waar je wil, maar het zit in jezelf oh yeah

05-18-2003, 07:12 PM	#2
imdrsmooth Posts: n/a	A couple of my friends hated the movie. One said Reloaded sold out to the studio. I thought it was okay. Didn't live up to what I was expecting though.

05-19-2003, 07:37 AM	#6
chuckie egg a peach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 4,627	Comes out in the uk this week.....

05-19-2003, 08:38 AM	#8
chuckie egg a peach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 4,627	Thats ok... I sort of knew what happens anyway We watched the first Matrix again at weekend as a build-up! hehe I want a leather jacket!

05-19-2003, 08:45 AM	#9
Frieda in limbo Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 19,506	a coworker of mine has a long leather jacket. the guy is about 210 centimeters tall, so he makes quite an impression when wearing that jacket! __________________ zoek waar je wil, maar het zit in jezelf oh yeah

05-19-2003, 11:43 AM	#10
ambo feline, naturally Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,407	yeah, i loved neo's look in this one the character has really transformed into something cartoonish, which i think works trinity looked way older i had a deep need to see the original when i got home - may just pop in the dvd tonight... and i just figured out this morning that neo is an anagram for one - shit i am SLOW !!!! __________________ Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we have not stopped to include violence as an option in our conflict management, we are still savages. --Thomas A. Edison

05-19-2003, 12:24 PM	#11
imdrsmooth Posts: n/a	There shouldn't have been a sex scene, especially one that long.

05-19-2003, 12:32 PM	#12
Miss Malevolent Bitch³ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 155	I thought the movie was good...but not great. I mean what did they say, "virtual cinema" was the new thing. "You won't be able to tell what's real from the fake." Yeah right...the agent jumping on the car was fake, the 'Burly Brawl' sequence was fake as hell, I mean it was just jarringingly (if that's a word) fake. It was kinda pissing me off. Let's take on the action sequences. I just came away with that with a, shrug Eh...I mean there were very few moments that made me go, "Whoa", like the first one, hell...even X-2 had more, "Whoa" moments. (May God forgive me for comparing Reloaded to X-Men 2, but it had to be done) And the philosophy of The Matrix...was replaced by doublespeak. "I know that you know that I know that you knew that I knew that you knew that the now is no more." I mean what the **? This movie PALES in comparison to the first one in the depth of how we allow our senses to rule ourselves and how belief in oneself can overcome the, "reality", that we're living in. Where was that in this movie? What about the introduction of werewolves, ghosts, tooth fairy et al, by the Oracle? What the was that for? I mean straight up, could've just said, there were aberrant programs that refused to go away. That would've been sufficent enough of the French and his gal AND the twins. It's like a whole load of shit was just spouted by the characters, and went nowhere. Kung Fu? Good. Action? Good. Philosophy? Almost non-existent. I wanted to love this movie. I loved the first one so much. Now as I think back on what I saw, I'm getting pissed that I waited four years for that**.

05-19-2003, 12:36 PM	#13
imdrsmooth Posts: n/a	I'd like to see everything the studio wanted in the movie as opposed to the original script.

05-19-2003, 12:42 PM	#14
RuneT baaaaah? Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: No(r)way Posts: 4,735	This is funny! __________________ RuneT RuneT, respect!!

05-19-2003, 01:26 PM	#15
malina leaving Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: up on the hill Posts: 6,013	lol rune dammit i wanted to see the matrix R and no one i know liked it so far... is it worth watching it just for the special fx?

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