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oops, I love subpages, but in a bit of a different context, I was thinking about categories for organization, like Category:Fabuloso Friday 2 - Mark
  • Howdeh! Looks like some sections have auto-organised themselves into bunches. May I suggest granting them a separate space, linked to the main Article page? This can most definitely be done for 'Limericks', 'Haikus' and 'Cat-related'? I'd do it myself, but haven't got the slightest idea how to make new pages... CeruleanNinja
also you can put the name of the page you want to create in the seach box and hit go. It will then ask you if you want to create a page there. Mark

Discussion about subpages and categories

So, anyway, about subpages... I agree we might need the higher organization. Maybe we keep the simple style for new entries, but once a section is heavily edited, they should be given a separate page. This should be seen as a promotion of the idea! And well, we could actually include it in the page as a template?? I will experiment a bit... --Gelbi 04:29, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Trying to sort out the issue: zefrank:Subpages and Categories -- Mark

  • nice job, Mark. Reason I was suggesting sub-pages here was 1) they automatically get the link back to the main project page and 2) I don't see any other solution for the namespace problem. To explain, let's suppose that there's a Fabuloso Friday every couple of weeks. Each time, somebody wants a "S-s-something from the Comments" segment. The problem is that we need to break up those pages. You'd have:
... and so on. So in my mind we need both subpages and categories. Is there another way to do this? muyfabulosotalk 13:13, 17 June 2006 (PDT)
  • Yes exactly, and categories are useful too. Now that we have categories, we could just add the category link to the main page. Except, that doesn't have the same main page exposure. What do you think? Are you happy with this whole template thing, it is quite tedious.... --Gelbi 14:31, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

The other idea that you could go with, instead of the above subpage solution is Categories. So you would have a Category:S-s-s-something from the Comments page. Just tag your page with that tag, then within the category, you have all the ideas in one place, non-hierartical. Mark

OK, I'm done experimenting, I actually think the simplest solution, just the single page (with the magic dumpster) is the best one in this case... so I'll leave it to you guys to figure out how to go forward. This is not to say you shouldn't do any organization, just that I won't! If I do any further edits, it will be on the actual content :) Good luck! --Gelbi 15:15, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

  • I agree. But right now we have a problem in that the same text is in two places though for some articles. I think the headings should either 1) stay black (with only a small bluelink below in italics that links to the sub-page) or 2) there should be no sub-page and the text should be right under the heading. I'm leaning toward #1 because even though things seem mellow at the moment it's probably just the calm before the storm. Anyone have thoughts here? muyfabulosotalk 18:39, 17 June 2006 (PDT)
  • I loved what you did but I think it's too advanced for the current state of the users here. Even I didn't understand what was going on or where to edit things. I simplified things way back. I also dug out a few pages that got lost in the shuffle. muyfabulosotalk 11:53, 18 June 2006 (PDT)


Check out the idea of templates at: Fabuloso Friday 2/Insane wiki version Mark

  • Hmm. It's cool but it might not be the right model. You've basically added a very complex abstraction over cut and paste... and you've brought the link tracking problem into wikispace. Consider this problem: you have three scripts, only one of which I'm actually aware of. They each include a common paragraph. I edit that paragraph, save, and it looks great. Unfortunately I've changed something that affects the other two scripts and breaks them -- they no longer make any sense and as the editor I'm not even aware of it. The whole notion of "commonality of text" probably works better for source code than it does for collaboration. I say let people create pages like crazy and copy and paste like crazy. More people will understand what's going on that way. muyfabulosotalk 13:20, 21 June 2006 (PDT)

Subpage guidelines

So creating a subpage right now is a bit tedious:

  • Make the title of the section into a link of the form
    == [[Fabuloso Friday 2/My Title|My Title]] ==
  • Click on the link you created to create a new page.
  • Copy the section content including the title to the new page. (The title is needed so that when using templates the "edit" links will edit the right page).
  • Add a the category line
    [[Category: Fabuloso Friday 2]]
  • Delete that section from the main page.
  • Add a reference to the new page here by adding
    {{:Fabuloso Friday 2/My Title}}
  • I say keep it easy for people to make new pages. Let the wiki-experts (or people who just dig organizing/formatting things) massage it all together. It's really not that bad to do the rename and relink. Also, I don't understand the "Most edited" page yet. Is that something we invented or is that a wiki feature or both? muyfabulosotalk 18:43, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Categories and Templates

for now see - zefrank:Subpages and Categories

Fabuloso Friday 2/Insane wiki version

Ack!!! What the hell is going on here?

Hah!! It is called transclusion :-) Get your sports racer wiki head around that! :-)

I drew up this diagram to show how I think templates can work, despite the drawbacks:



There should only be discussion about a show, nothing more. There should be no voting. [previously unsigned comment by User: ]

What do you mean no voting.. How would we get things decided on then? Discussion would most likely be mostly about a show, I don't think we need to enforce that tho. Fresheneesz 16:06, 9 June 2006 (PDT)
I think the voting happens in the main article page. --Sford 08:36, 10 June 2006 (PDT)
This weekend, elect an editor.
I thought that the voting worked quite well in the discussion pages, although we need to 'advertise' the fact that voting is happening more clearly... Perhaps it's something that will come with experience. CeruleanNinja
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